You start your video by rightly declaring that belief in the Rapture is not a salvation issue. Unfortunately, you then spend most time on delivering your belief that it is false. Why enflame the debate if you don’t believe it, especially when your analysis is incorrect ?
There are more than 50 Scriptures telling us about the Rapture, the only question – clearly expressed by Jesus – is that we don’t know when that will occur. Causing division in a matter that has no relevance in faith is not helpful in causing unbelievers to come to faith.
Hugo, it’s not in the Bible in actual plain form BECAUSE IT HASN’T HAPPENED YET! Every example you gave about why we can believe in things written in the Bible is because they have already happened and been written down.
Prophecy is a work of faith and ‘faith is the hope of things unseen’.
Prophecy is something that sometimes needs to be worked out as displayed when King Herod asked the wise men of his time where the Messiah would be born. The scriptures were then used to foretell that He would be born in Bethlehem and hence: Herod gave the order to kill all the firstborn male babies up to the age of 2 in Bethlehem. An attempt to prevent the work of God to change mankind for the better.
In fact the very scripture that was used to foretell where the Christ was to be born was from the prophet Micah 5:2 and if read without spiritual eyes to see what it really means, could have been talking about ANY King or leader of Israel.
Think on this:
Enoch was taken, Elijah was taken, Jesus was taken.
Why is it not possible for a whole group of believers to be taken too?
We should “Be as little children” and believe like little children otherwise faith is in danger of being watered down.
Jesus was not taken he died and then was resurrected and then ascended. Those other two were taken before they died.
As for it hasn’t happened yet so is not 8n the bible makes mockery of prophecy. Lots of stuff that hasn’t happened yet is foretold in prophecy and is in the bible.
No mention of the rapture in the early creeds of the church.
Such a huge event would surely get more ‘air’ time.
The Mark of the Beast is here already, yet many don’t see it.
It is the jab!
The Third Trumpet happened in 1986, yet many are still waiting for it to happen.
The Third Trumpet is called Wormwood. When you translate this to Russian and Ukrainian it means Chernobyl.
One third of the European waters turned bitter and many died.
The monument in Chernobyl is an Angel blowing a Trumpet.
The Second Trumpet is WW2.
One third of the ships perished in that war. Google It!
The First Trumpet was WW1.
One third of the grass and tree burned.
Google It!
The Fourth Trumpet was Kuwait.
For over a year one third of the time the sun, moon and stars were invisible.
To stop the fires they made a documentary called Bring Back the Sun.
Google It!
Revelation 19.20 states the First Beast (rev.13) and the False Prophet get thrown into the lake of fire for DECEIVING THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!!
Revelation 20:1 states the Second Beast gets bound for 1000 years.
In Revelation 13 he CONTINUES/EXERCISETH what the First Beast has started. Namely the MotB and he adds the NO BUYING/SELLING law.
Those pre-tribbers and many post-tribbers are DECEIVED already.
For they wait for a rapture or till satan says: This is my MofB, take it and worship me.
Unfortunately the Bible mentions “Deceived” so many times, yet it is happening right now.
666 might be ready to implement, but we are not there just yet. I can still buy and sell without a mark at this time.
Revelation 13:17 “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
the false prophet and the man of sin has not appeared so we are not there yet.
Dear Chaplain Bob,
Yes you can still buy and sell now, for we’re still being run by the First Beast that started the MotB.
They’re making all currencies digital at this moment.
When the Second Beast takes full control no one may sell or buy anymore without the jab/digital health pass.
But 5.5 billion people already took the MotB.
No wonder only a remnant will be left when Jesus returns.
Agreed and well digital currency has been in the works for decades. Those who trusted the medical community for their health instead of the LORD will be given their reward.
Everyone mentioning Enoch and Elijah.
The Bible is plain. They went to God without dying.
2nd Kings 2:9-11 “Elisha said, “Please, let a double portion of your spirit be upon me.” He said, “You have asked a hard thing. Nevertheless, if you see me when I am taken from you, it shall be so for you; but if not, it shall not be so.” As they were going along and talking, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire and horses of fire which separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind to heaven.”
1st Kings 18:27 “And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.”
“Where is your god? On the toilet? Is he asleep?” Shazam! He had the Holy Spirit flowing through him. Calling fire from the sky.
He and Enoch are sometimes proposed as “The Two Witnesses” … Since they didn’t die. They we’re some of the most Holy people written of in the entire Bible.
I’m sorry but your question seems to have left out a glaringly obvious fact. I’m talking about a 7 year pre tribulation rapture, and how that is clearly not stated in the Bible, there may well be 50 scriptures clearly outlining a Rapture/Resurrection, but there are 0 clearly outlining a 7 year pre tribulation rapture.
This is made very clear in the video. The division is caused by teachers, scholars and believers who push around concepts that are not in scripture. This is corrupting scripture. I am merely readdressing that by pointing out what it actually says in scripture. And that says there will be a resurrection/rapture and it will be ‘immediately after’ the tribulation.
The only debate should be whether the Rapture occurs before or after the Tribulation, or indeed mid Trib. The Rapture should not be confused with the resurrection of the saved; they are two separate events. Christ removes God’s Spirit from the earth, which allows Satan full control in the final 3.5 years, during which time the unbelievers remaining will have their final opportunity to repent – and literally lose their heads – or accept the Mark of The Beast.
To believe otherwise is to accept that most believers who are alive at that time, will be beheaded. Both Luke & Mark write about two working in fields, and two in bed where one each shall be taken. This shows the Rapture of believers leaving unbelievers during the last 3.5 years.
I have also not believed in either a rapture or a 7 year tribulation. But now I am starting to think that maybe there could be a taking away (rapture) just NOT at the beginning of troubles but maybe after the mark is “injected” (like NOW) and the AC comes on the scene.
The supposed 7 years comes from Daniel 9:27 that has been [intentionally] misconstrued. This scripture seems to me to be where the separation of the “Jews” and the Gentiles comes from that the dispensationalists use to separate the Jews for the Gentiles at the end. Daniel 9 clearly shows that God gave Daniel’s people, the Jews, 70 weeks to put an end to their transgressions (i.e., their sinful ways). One week of the 70 weeks spoken of in Daniel 9 has been [falsely] interpreted as happening during the “end times” when the scriptures does NOT say that. Therefore, “everyone” takes that last week (the 70th week) and throws it 2000 years into the future making those 70 weeks into 2070 weeks.
I agree with Hugo that the scriptures does show that God’s people will be “gathered” at the last trump when Jesus comes. But there really are a couple scriptures that seems to say something different. They are:
KJV – Luke 21:36 “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”
How does one “escape all these things” if one is here on earth facing beheading for NOT following the AC new world order? Maybe this speaks of God somehow protecting his people but if that is true then why would his people be “overcome” by the AC and beheaded?
The other one is in Zechariah 14:1-5 KJV –
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
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5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
How could God come WITH his saints if all the saints are still on the earth?
Oh dear Jane, I really don’t think that you understood what I was trying to portray in the above comment. I wasn’t making a mockery of prophecy at all, quite the opposite in fact.
As for whether Jesus was taken : Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Amen,, yes, you are correct…
All i see still is, there are many goats and hardly any sheep..
I like you Hugo & only a few others on here, are sheep 🐑, we have a Shepherd, he is our Father & his name is Jesus Christ. (Yesuha) ….. Its a shame to see so many goats that still think they are correct,, as you say Hugo, go & look in the kjv… The manual for life, the Bible…
Sorry Hugo, I’m not quite sure whether you are responding to jchr12 here or myself? To be honest, I had only gotten about 3-4 minutes into your video and found myself shouting ‘That’s because it hasn’t happened yet!’ I should have waited until the end because now it seems that you believe that there WILL be a rapture (personally I prefer the term ‘taking up’) ??? but you’re questioning the seven years???
I also question the seven years but always when reading Revelation, my spirit seems to quicken when I read chapter 12 which appears to mention a 3 and a half year period TWICE (but the second time could be a repeat of the first just from a different viewpoint).
Once in verse 6 “And the woman fled into the wilderness where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
And again in verse 14 “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, times and half a time from the face of the serpent.
(Time : 1 year
Times : 2 years
Half a time : 1/2 year = 3 and a half years) I believe. This terminology is also used in Daniel chapter 12 by the One that spoke to him, from verse 7 “And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth forever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished”. (This is what’s happening in Revelation 12 unless I’m mistaken)
And again in verse 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days” (okay this is slightly longer than 1260 days but in my eyes is close enough).
I realise that this does not explain the alleged seven year period but hopefully helps us to understand that a three and a half year period definitely is scriptural.
If these chapters (Daniel 12 and Revelation 12) are used together we can build a slightly clearer picture on what the future holds for us believers but some of the terminology is symbolic. For example the woman in Revelation 12, I believe, represents the church/bride of Christ (note that this is not the same woman who is clothed in scarlet and purple who rides on the back of the beast, which you’ve already described as the false church). The daily sacrifice represents the praise and thanksgiving of the people of God, that will be silenced due to the setting up of the Abomination of Desolation.
What is the abomination of desolation?
Possibly and very probably the mark of the beast itself ! I take this from the words of Jesus : Matthew 24 verse 15 ‘When ye therefore shall see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand,) 16 Then let them that be in Ju-daé-a flee into the mountains:’
It could be interpreted that ‘stand in the holy place’ is referring to the Temple but we could take that one step further and suggest that the temple that Jesus is referring to here could actually represent the human body which according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 ‘Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.’ amongst other scriptures IS a holy place.
Revelation 13:16 ‘And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:’ Does this not portray a desecration of the temple?
I realise that I have digressed from the seven year period question somewhat but I believe that it is important for us all to see what the symbology within the scriptures means in order for us to gain a better understanding. Jesus spoke in parables and parables are not clear to understand but not impossible to work out if we have the ears to hear and eyes to see.
I’m not saying that I’ve got this 100% correct by the way, but I believe that The Holy Spirit has been showing me this over the last few years and believe that it is time to share. Hopefully The Holy Spirit has been saying the same thing to other believers too? I could say a whole lot more on the subject but don’t want to go on for too long.
Just note that Jesus specifically pointed us (those that wish to know more about the end times) towards the prophet Daniel. If we read the book of Daniel then the symbology becomes clearer.
The scripture about being worthy and stand in front of the Lord refers to the DAY of His Wrath, the very last day.
The Vials, Gods Wrath, last for years.
They are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS.
We already see the first jabbed people with horrific sores. Waters are already turning into blood. The Euphrates is drying up.
The Seals, Trumpets and Vials run parallel. They overlap each other.
Gods Chosen ones will not be struck with Gods plagues, but they will witness it.
When Jesus returns after the 7 years of Tribulation, the Last Trumpet will sound. Every eye will see Him coming in the sky with the 144,000 saints. (so yes there is/was a “rapture” of the male virgins from Israel to fight this war with Jesus)
Jesus will then first resurrect the dead, the surviving remnant will be caught up moments later.
Then the sun turns black, the moon red, a great earthquake will bring down mountains and move islands. Hail stones will fall, brimstone and fire falls from the sky and the wicked will be slaughtered.
It is this DAY you want to be counted worthy of.
When this DAY is over the Brides Meal will take place.
you wrote -> “The scripture about being worthy and stand in front of the Lord refers to the DAY of His Wrath, the very last day.”
Let me first remind you of the passage I quoted -> Luke 21:36 “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.””
Jesus says that we should pray always that we may escape all these things that SHALL come to pass. Jesus was clearly talking about the great tribulation “things”.
Then Luke writes “, and to stand before”… A comma [,] followed by the word “and” means an independent clause follows the word “and”. So the “and stand before” is a separate independent clause [thought] from the praying to escape all the great tribulation things.
One has to be a “wise virgin” with oil in her lamp or good servant to qualify to be Christ’s bride and be “snatched away” whenever that snatching happens. Or at least that is how I interpret the Bible.
Dear SEEKER,
May I suggest to study the translation, Strongs.
For in my language Jesus says: (google translation)
36 Therefore be ever on your guard, always praying that you may come safely through the terrors to come, and that afterwards you may be with Me, the Son of Man.
So it’s not escaping by rapture. But to stay safe till Jesus returns.
Isn’t that what He prayed for in John 17
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil
Even though there will be Great Tribulation, not everyone on earth will experience it (or the same way)
I for instance have nobody to truly cry for. My whole family and past friends are atheist and jabbed. They are lost souls. I’ve already distanced myself from them. They think I belong to a sect/cult for reading the Bible.
For myself, I don’t fear death. 29 Years ago I was told I had 5 years left. Of course that instant I cried. But within an hour I was in peace with the idea. And I didn’t even know God then.
I’m very grateful He spared me so I got to know Him.
I’m waiting for my heavenly family. Nothing here on earth can effect me no more.
In the mean time I continue to plant trees and veggies as if there are still many years to come.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I think translation is the major reason that most conflicts in scripture exist. If your translation is correct (I have not yet learned how to use a concordance I am a new believer) then that passage that to me means a “rapture”, may very well not mean that at all.
As to your other thoughts, I am on the same page. I have lost my family and most friends over the years for all my “truth bombs” that have made them all think I am a lunatic or something so I am pretty much a loner. Most my lost family and previous friends I am certain took the MotB and are destined for the lake of fire, so no loss there for me anyhow.
I too do not fear death at all, in fact on most days I would welcome it. My motive for trying to figure out the rapture has nothing at all to do with a fear of death and is based on two things. 1) I am a problem solver, a curious person which is why I seek truth and have done so for over 30 years. 2) it is not death I fear or beheading it is all the possibly many months or years that I am going to have to try to survive without food, shelter, or community. THAT is my fear. Once the digital money and digital immunity passes come in I am, as most here, going to be screwed as I/we will not be able to buy or sell. I do not believe that they will seek us out to kill us, they will just allow “nature” to take its course as we slowly die of cold and starvation. Well that at least are my thoughts.
Would you like to join my lonely life in Costa Rica?
I could use a brother/sister hand on my 1 acre farm.
At least you wouldn’t die of cold nor hunger till they lock us up.
I’m pretty much prepared to last an off-grid life for years to come.
We could build you a private place.
email: heidi2mexico@yahoo.co.uk
Yeshua tells us the season and what to look for. The only thing we don’t know is the day and the hour. Read Mathew 24 where He tells us WHEN we are caught up. This is after the great tribulation and on the day of His coming. He sends his angels to gather up the elect from the 4 corners of the earth. This is NOT before His second coming. How so many lukewarm Christians have this wrong is mind boggling.
You say “I am, as most on here, going to be screwed as I/we will not be able to buy or sell.”
Can I comfort you and encourage your faith by asking you to read Matthew chapter 6 verses 25-26?
And believe….
If you read that verse again, you will see that the KJV says Jesus gathers the elect from the 4 corners of heaven, not earth! When I saw that it changed things for me. I believe that verse is no longer a rapture verse, and that the saints are already in heaven when this takes place. I do agree it’s clear that Jesus doesn’t return until AFTER the triblulation.
False prophecies have consequences – sadly most pastors work for the enemy and teach the pre trib lie so the sheep’s faith is ruined when they find they might have to die for Christ who died for them. Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
The last Trump is the sounding for the final blow for Satan & his minions. It is an error to believe that those who died in faith in 6000 years since Creation, and before the Tribulation were the only ones spared the horrors of the last 3.5 years. That means you believe in a cruel God not of Scripture.
Tell us about the MILLIONS OF MURDERED CHRISTIANS UNDER COMMUNISM in the last 100 years and the millions before that. tell us about the 11 of the 12 apostles who were killed for the faith. So you are too good that the Lord would let you die for the faith you say.
I notice you only give your OPINION and never cite any scriptures that prove me wrong. So there is more than one last trump – wow
Dear jchr12,
Billions of Christians have experienced Tribulation.
They were tortured, murdered, starved experienced wars, slavery, you name it.
But only this Last Generation that has to experience Great Tribulation will get to live on a peaceful earth for 1000 years. For it will be the Greatest Tribulation ever in history.
The rest of the faithful ones that died during those 6000 years will sleep for another 1000 years as is written.
How can one call God cruel when He sent His Son to earth, knowing how His life would end?
Jesus was pure and innocent. Yet He was willing to die for us, so our sins could be forgiven.
So be strong, have faith, endure the difficult years and know the reward will be splendid.
WOW Heidi amen a sister soldier for Christ. you go girl
Psalms 9:13 – Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death:
Mat 16:21 – From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Luk 24:46 – And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer,
and to rise from the dead the third day:
Act 3:18 – But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets,
that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Act 5:41 – And they departed from the presence of the council,
rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
Rom 8:17 – And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him,
that we may be also glorified together.
2 Timothy 3:12 – Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Act 26:23 – That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead,
and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Act 9:16 – For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.
Rom 8:18 – For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory
which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:17 – And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Phl 3:8 – Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:
for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
1 Thess 2:14 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus:
for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
Heb 2:9 – But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,
crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Heb 2:10 – For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory,
to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
James 5:10 – Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord,
for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
1 Pe 1:11 – Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Pe 2:21 – For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
1 Peter 3:18 – For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God,
being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Pe 4:13 – But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1 Pe 3:14 – But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror,
neither be troubled;
1 Peter 4:1 – Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind:
for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1 Peter 5:10 – But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
2 Tim 2:12 – If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
1 Thess 3:4 – For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation;
even as it came to pass, and ye know.
2 Cor 1:6 – And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation,
which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer:
or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
1 Cor 10:13 – There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful,
who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able;
but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Rev 2:10 – Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison,
that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
1 Peter 5:10 – But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
Indeed Christians have suffered & many will continue to do so. That doesn’t mean Christians will experience the Tribulation, which will be far worse than anything previously seen. In my view Christ emphatically told us they wouldn’t, and some Scriptures have been evidenced on this forum in support of this view.
However, the subject remains in debate & won’t here be resolved as both the Rapture & its timing are unclear.
Revelation 12:17 “And the dragon was wroth (angry) with the woman (church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Jews do not have the testimony of Christ.
Revelation 20:2 “And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,”
the wrath of the Dragon satan is not the wrath of God.
Dear jchr12,
Revelation 12 happened on September 23rd 2017.
The woman’s seed, Christians, were protected till March 23 2021.
That is when the 7 years Tribulation started.
The current occupiers of Israel are NOT Gods Chosen ones.
They stole the identity of the Tribe of Judah.
They belong to the synagogue of satan.
Research Khazarian jews and why they’ve been prosecuted for centuries.
They sacrifice babies, lie, steal, murder and create wars.
God’s Children of Jacob/Israel have been scattered worldwide. Most likely many are Christian already.
Romans 11 shows we’re all GRAFTED into ONE TREE.
It also states that IF there would be a preference, it would be to the original Branches of Israel.
So who are we wild olive branches expecting to escape Tribulation?!!!
The JAB is the MotB.
Autumn 2024 the NO Buying/Selling will be added by the AC.
Till then the First Beast is in control. It will be thrown into the lake of fire for DECEIVING the whole world with the MotB. Revelation 19:20
The Second Beast aka old serpent, satan gets bound for 1000 years, Revelation 20:1
Even if you don’t believe me now, keep your body clean and pure.
Don’t put any sorcery aka pharmaceuticals in it.
For as in the days of Noah God destroyed all flesh for being corrupted with the seed of the fallen angels.
God this time will destroy all flesh for being corrupted with nano technology.
Well, there are plenty of crackpots out there, and they come in all colours, all faiths & doctrines. The evil perpetrated in this world is staggeringly awful, and is not limited to some Jews any more than those professing to be Christians.
The reformation of Israel, exactly as prophesised In the Book of Daniel – and some claim to the day – is proof that God hasn’t rejected the Jews. He hasn’t rejected and won’t reject anyone, and neither should we. The unsaved condemn themselves by not accepting Christ.
So far as the Tribulation having already started, I don’t support that argument. The Mark of the Beast will not present itself as anything other than what it is. So it won’t be a vaccine purportedly to keep us well, but will be something we will know is dangerous, evil & will steal our salvation.
jchr12 wrote “So it won’t be a vaccine purportedly to keep us well, but will be something we will know is dangerous, evil & will steal our salvation.”.
HOW MANY TIMES did Jesus say watch and be not deceived and let no man deceive you.
The jab was never purportedly to keep anyone well and a superficial understanding of what was going on proved that to be a complete and total deception. The jab IS the MOTB. If you took it, I am sorry for you. Most on the forum I suspect did not take it.
I don’t agree with your analysis. There are indeed two Beasts, but that is not the debate. You state that the MotB are current vaccines. This cannot be the case because humanity were encouraged to accept them as beneficial to their health. The Mark (which arguably may be a vaccine with an implant) will be a known and deliberate attempt to subjugate people’s who, without it, may not be able to buy nor sell.
Therefore, your inference that people may have been tricked into accepting the Mark unknowingly in not Scriptural because it has to be ‘intentionally accepted’. It is bowing to the Beast and submitting themselves to the Beast, and that cannot happen accidentally.
Your analysis of the Mark is not a salvation issue. The acceptance of the Mark known to represent subservience to the Beast is. Therefore, it will not be possible to mistakenly accept the Mark.
God is clear: Rev 13:15 & 16 says, “… the image of the beast … cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.
Importantly, it is known that refusing the Mark will result in one’s death. This means that it cannot be mistakenly accepted. Even if you are correct that the vaccine is some precursor to the Mark – I don’t believe that – something yet needs to be added to it to fulfil verse 16, i.e., in one’s right hand or forehead to prevent future purchases.
Heidi is correct. The mark was offered, the people who put their “lives” about everything else ran out and got it. Remember, “those who seek to keep their lives will lose it”. They should have known better. Anyone with half a brain who was not “deceived” could clearly see there was no “pandemic”. Most those who took it did so because they put their jobs, concerts, vacations, etc. above their spirit/soul (in their actions, i.e. their right hand that does actions). Those others took it for fear of death (their thoughts, i.e., their foreheads).
Anyhow who thinks it will be easily identified is completely deceived and will be thrown in the lake of fire. Do you honestly believe the “beast” is going to come out on TV I guess and say “take this chip in your right hand or you will not be able to buy or sell”?? Revelations is prophecy and prophecy is not literal it is spiritual.
Too many people think that literally two men are going to go around preaching the gospel wearing sackcloth and be killed and their rotting corpse’s rotting on the street for three days. No way will that ever happen. It is not literal, but spiritual. You must be lead by the holy spirit and have eyes to see in order to see what is actually happening. Too much Hollyweird influence. Everyone (well not everyone) is expecting a big show, and obvious stuff that will be obvious to everyone. That will never happen.
Like Heidi said, 67 times in the good book is deceived mentioned. Also Revelations says that “all the world was deceived” by sorcery (pharmakia). What does that mean to you??
Satan won’t tell us the truth, but God has. I’m afraid you are reading far more into vaccines than is the case at present. Best keep alert for the real thing, and much more has yet to occur before that – although that might happen quite quickly.
So if there is 50 or so verses, in the 1611 kjv or just the Kjv..
What are they…??
Unfortunately there are many goats in the flock & not many sheep 🐑, me and hugo are sheep, by the way, Hugo is speaking the truth in Love. (there is a difference)
Feel free to post 2 plain and clear scriptures that show the resurrection is PRIOR to the arrival of the man of sin and the tribulation.
I say you are a liar and can not do it. In In Revelation 20:4-6 there are only 2 Resurrections spoken of:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the SECOND DEATH hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev. 20:4-5, John sees the souls of Saints who were BEHEADED for refusing the Mark of the Antichrist during the Great Tribulation. John writes that they will rise and reign with Christ for 1000 years and that this is the FIRST RESURRECTION! If according to John, the beheaded rise in the FIRST resurrection and Paul said those who are alive and remain are not caught up until AFTER the dead in Christ are resurrected, then this means the catching up or rapture takes place AFTER tribulation!
1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the end of the tribulation.
How do we know the “man of sin” has not ALREADY been revealed? Does anyone really think that the mainstream media is going to go on air, the world over, and say …
“Today we report that ???? has been identified as the Biblical Anti-Christ!”
Lol not likely. The “reveal” will not be “seen” and understood by believers until well after the fact, I think. But time will tell (if we are still here).
Has the man of sin appeared?
2 Thessalonians Chapter 2: 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be REVEALED revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS signs and lying WONDERS wonders, (MIRACLES)
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Revelation Chapter 13: 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great WONDERS wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, (when has this happened?)
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
SALVATION ISSUE.
Revelation 14:11
“And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
If you think you won’t have to face the Mark of the Beast you will take it and suffer forever.
If a person is wrong about expecting to go through tribulation they get a pleasant surprise. You should prepare emotionally / spiritually / physically to face tribulation.
Ahh Mark a true soldier for Christ. Yep the pre trib rapture lie has consequences. Satan pulled the YOU MISSED THE RAPTURE THING IN THE DAYS OF PAUL. 2 Timothy 2:18 “Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.” I suspect this will be used again or maybe to discredit Jesus as a FALSE MESSIAH by the enemy?
Who are the real children of Israel or sons of Abraham?
“They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.”
John 8:39
“Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”
Luke 3:8
As for rapture and tribulation talk – it’s all hogwash in my opinion.
The Rapture is not a deciding matter of Salvation for the believer , therefore, we do not need to let it cause contention amongst the body of Christ. We shall all find out soon enough who was believing right about the rapture of the Church (true Church = those who are born again in Christ Jesus) but whatever may come ,we are called to be set apart for the Lord, occupying the time until He comes. Having Him as our first love … not this world or the things of this world. If we are called to suffer for the Faith , even to be Martyred then His grace will be sufficient, if we are called to depart to be with Him we must go without looking back in longing for anything we have left behind on this Earth, we must depend on Him and not upon our own natural abilities. It is a matter of the heart and a matter of sanctification a work of the Holy Spirit in our hearts that set us apart for the Lord, we must decrease that He may increase.
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”— 1 John 2:15-17
Matthew 10:37-38 KJV
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
If Jesus is our first love in our life, we will have been prepared by the Holy Spirit .
People are afraid because they have not had that struggle in the secret place where they come to the full surrender of their will to Gods will no matter what may come .
It is an important matter, because if it is a concept created to cause confusion and deception, then one should be wary of those in positions of trust that are still spreading such false ideas that are clearly not outlined in the bible.
It is corrupting scripture.
Looking at the response I have had to these videos I believe this is a massive Psy-op that is employed by the New World Order, And it has been for a long long time going back decades, primarily, back in the past, it was used to give preachers an excuse in church to NOT teach the Book of Revelation or anything about the end times, as there excuse would be ‘why teach it, if you are not going to be here for it’. Which of course then leaves Christians in the dark. And right now its still being pushed for other nefarious reasons, explained in the first video – https://hugotalks.com/2023/07/09/rapture-ready-hugo-talks/
Only the truth will set you free….
If we have been taught wrong, then we have believed a lie… If the lie has been preached from a pulpit, then its time to rid the earth of the lies from the church…
Its back to the story about the sheep 🐑 & the goats
The Holy Spirit alone leads us into all truth. The theologies of men lead to error, confusion, false hope and puffing up of corrupt minds.
When the Lord said something and allowed it to be recorded in the scriptures, then He will do just as He said. His words are simple because He speaks as to little children.
The scriptures require pure hearts, not complex minds to be understood. They are words of Life, not riddles.
If it isn’t plainly and simply stated, then it is not there!
Threats of violence? Wow. Those people threatening you sure are not righteous anyway. They think themselves they are wheat but really belong to the tares, which are burnt up. Modern pharesees.
God bless Hugo and all
Hugo you’re still wet behind the ears, and really so am I in terms of a Christian walk. There’s deception everywhere within the church, and the trib timing is far from the greatest- but we should be cautious in that great care should be taken not to discourage new believers. Or we just become an instrument for the enemy.
God is sovereign and supersedes corruption to bring His children to Himself.
May God bless and guide you for His purposes. 🙏
Jesus discouraged the ruler who asked, “what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus said, “sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.”
Luke 18:18-26
The ruler chose wealth and comfort instead of eternal life. That is exactly the choice that will happen with the Mark of the Beast during before the 1st Ressurection before the “rapture”. Most people will choose to buy & sell.
Jesus discouraged everyone by saying, “Take up your cross”
Matthew 16:24, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23
You ask around the six minute mark why would be we looking for signs if we had already been raptured? but you are assuming the only signs are in the Tribulation. Unless we are in the Tribulation now then what have you been warning us against for the last 3 years? The signs are with us and are increasing all the time – 1948 and the reinstatement of the nation of Israel, rumours of wars and famines etc not to mention the ushering in of the cashless society. Also, to equate dispensationalism with replacement theology is disingenuous. As a dispensationalist I recognise that God has a plan for Israel who will come to Christ during the Tribulation (they are the elect in the context you argued towards the end of your video). A couple of thoughts for you: in your first video you quoted the scripture about not knowing the day or the hour; if you agree there is a rapture but it is not pre-trib then the timescale of the Tribulation enables one to work out the day and hour of the rapture! Also, if all the believers are changed at the end of the tribulation (ie, get their resurrection bodies) how are children born in the millennium kingdom (some of whom later go on to follow Satan in his final rebellion)? A pre-tribulation rapture explains both these issues. Finally what is the point in watching therefore if we can be certain we have at least 7 years before Christ’s return. In brotherly love.
What do I think? I’m a pre-tribulation rapture believer. I was unsure for 12 years but I heard a message on Jesus as Bridegroom which settled it and established it in my heart. You can find out more by watching the film ‘Before the Wrath’. Regardless, I am willing to go through whatever I must go though until I see Him face to face. Maranatha.
Thank you for that recommendation. I just watched it and I have to agree it makes a pretty good case for a rapture. But it does NOT answer the question of when. Maybe we are not told when because only the father knows the day and hour. But I think that video (and maybe the Bible if we read it “correctly”) makes the case that the when could be anytime before the wrath of God. I personally believe the snatching away (rapture) will happen after the mark of the beast is injected (like now) but before the wrath of God that we do not know when that will come.
As far as the wedding ceremony that video states that the specific ceremony was a tradition only in Galilee. But why do you think that is? Could it be that the father, through his holy spirit, lead the Galileeans to follow that tradition as a way to fore shadow what was to come? I think so!
this is what I tend to think as well – as soon as we understand how the bridegroom would go away to prepare the house, and then come “like a thief in the night” to steal away the bride, also the 7 days of feasting, etc… it makes total sense.
Yes, the love of God is so beautiful and all His ways are perfect, wise and true. Jesus fulfilled all of the betrothal traditions. The scripture said He is the Bridegroom so why would He not fulfil the completion of the marriage covenant. I’m super excited – one day my Prince will come. We are loved deeply by Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit (the Friend of the Bride) – our Wonderful God!
Matthew 24:29-31:
“29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
I’m posting this scripture for the second time. Can someone explain to me what exactly is not clear in there? Seriously Jesus said here that after tribulation he will send his angels to gather his elect. Obviously Paul was reffering to that scripture in 1 Tes. 4:16. I really don’t understand what’s unclear here…
Good point Zenon. I think, as stated by someone else in the comments in the part 1 video, that there is a difference in the tribulation and God’s wrath. Tribulation first and the wrath of God on the unrighteous in the very end. We will all go through tribulation.
God bless
below are are some verses regarding the pre-trib rapture and the rapture of the dead when Christ claims His kingdom, and the pre-trib rapture when Christ claims His Church. from King James Bible only.
one event is letting you know when, whilst the other is a mystery, Revelation 11:15 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16
two trumpets here, both different, 15And the seventh angel sounded; and the the other trumpet is, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God,
Jesus is talking in one, and in the other an Angel is declaring the Kingdom of the Lord.
I understand it to be, Jesus is saying you will not know the date and time when I call my bride groom, the other is an Angel announcing the kingdom of Jesus Christ.
It`s the Trump of GOD, not the Last trump, or 7th trump in revelations.? verses and chapters taken from the King James Bible
In Revelations and in Mathew the Trumpets are sounded by Angels, yet in 1 Thessalonians its God that sounds the Trump with a voice of an Archangel. this is why I still believe in a rapture.
Matthew 24:40
37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Romans 8:39
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Colossians 3:4
3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Revelation 11:15
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Matthew 24:31
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
1 Thessalonians 4:16
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Graham – hey deceiver how many LAST TRUMPS are there? Oh that is right you say they are not the same without proving a thing.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
I call out those who are deceived or deceivers – show me where I am in error and I shall apologize publicly. Since you can not prove me wrong as all you can do is complain about things like disrespect. Remember God hates and destroys false prophets so make sure you are right before you lead others astray.
There you go again. Get off your self important horse.
If you would read the many comments in this forum, and elsewhere, that explain why the Tribulation Rapture is Biblically sound, rather than make derogatory comments about others, you’d understand.
The Rapture is certain; the only question is exactly when.
Best though to save your concern as it’s not a salvation issue.
I smell an Israeli troll – WHEN IS THE RAPTURE / RESURRECTION? BIBLE PROOF
In Revelation 20:4-6 the last book of the Bible there are only 2 more FUTURE Resurrections (Raptures) spoken of: (after the 2 witnesses appear)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION. or rapture
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the SECOND DEATH hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
In the above scriptures, these are the Martyrs. John said “this is the first resurrection.” John didn’t say this is the “second phase of the first resurrection,” as pre-tribbers claim.
If this is the FIRST resurrection, can there be a resurrection before this one? Of course not, unless you want to ADD to the bible which is forbidden!
The First Resurrection is of the dead in Christ and the Second is after 1000 years. Paul wrote that the Dead in Christ MUST rise FIRST, THEN we who are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 …and the dead in Christ shall RISE FIRST
17 THEN we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them…
In Rev. 20:4-5, John sees the souls of Saints who were BEHEADED for refusing the Mark of the Beast during the Great Tribulation. John writes that they will rise and reign with Christ for 1000 years and that this is the FIRST RESURRECTION!
If according to John, the beheaded rise in the FIRST resurrection and Paul said those who are alive and remain are not caught up until AFTER the dead in Christ are resurrected, then this means the catching up or rapture takes place AFTER tribulation!
Now compare the above with 1 CORINTHIANS 15:20-23:
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first-fruits of those who slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; AFTERWARDS THOSE WHO ARE CHRIST’S AT HIS COMING.
Notice only one resurrection of the dead in Christ is mentioned here! Which, according to Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 must take place BEFORE we who are alive and remain are “caught up” with them!
When did Jesus say the dead in Christ would be resurrected?
John 6:39-40: Jesus said, “This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up ON THE LAST DAY.
John 6:44: Jesus said, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up ON THE LAST DAY.”
Is the LAST DAY the thousand year reign of Christ?
I believe so….then it is eternity and time is counted no more
So if Jesus himself said the dead in Christ will be raised on the LAST DAY, and Paul said we who are alive and remain will not be caught up (raptured) until AFTER the dead are raised, then where does secret pre-trib rapture fit in?
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
“Israeli troll.” Is the reason why I shan’t discuss with you. But I shall leave you this to consider:
In Luke 21:34–36, Jesus said this, speaking to His own followers:
“But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Jesus is clearly talking about the tribulation, and what does He say to His people? “Pray … that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things … and to stand before the Son of Man.” I would say that Jesus is speaking here of the rapture, and it seems obvious that it is a pre-tribulational rapture. We are to pray that we may be able to escape these things.
I notice you can not and will not refute not one single passage of scripture I posted. Because you can not. Yes people there is a “HASBARA PROJECT” where the Israeli government (paid for with US foreign aid money) discredit all things pointing to Christ. Look it up.
So they call you hateful so they can bow out of being proven wrong.
Tell us about brit milah or metzitzah b’peh where the talmudic rabbi sticks the babies penis in his mouth at circumcision to suck the blood. Like we should listen to rabbis and jews who do this? This is real thing everyone look it up. maybe they trained the vatican priests?
oh and guess what what kosher tribe owns the media so you never hear about this sick practice.
these want us to believe this tribe is the “chosen” people. chosen for what is the real question.
telling the truth makes me an antisemitic bigot
😌I agree with Hugo about how there is NO RAPTURE. i don’t understand why anyone who claims to be a Christian would EVER make “threats of violence”… So it just shows you how FAR from Christ that person really is.
Jesus is NOT Coming TWICE. He is arriving ONCE just as HOLY SCRIPTURE indicates.
I sympathize with how scary it might become, but as TRUE CHRISTIANS WE must be FAITHFUL to God the Father’s / Christ’s HOLY WILL, and endure until the END… Then We will all be safe & at Peace in His Holy Kingdom.
At the time I viewed the comments, I saw no threats of violence.
What I see here, however, is Hugo attempting to link those who believe in our Lord protecting His children (in a time when the devil is given full reign over the Earth) to the idea that these very same children would be given to violent threats. This false association is the sort of thing Hugo would have pointed out and decried in the past. Now, it would seem, he is a partaker of this tactic.
BTW, many so-called “Christians” have engaged in evil acts in the name of our Lord, whether it was in the past or today. Clearly, they and their actions are not inspired by Christ. they do not represent true Christians.
Getting back to the presentation, it’s hypocritical for Hugo to claim that he wants to avoid division within Christian camps while subsequently promoting it through this video. He has brought forth many good ideas but, whether intentionally or not, he has created a band of sycophantic followers. I follow Christ, not any man.
Luke tells us we are not appointed to wrath. It is at the 6th seal that wrath is both declared and acknowledged. Read Revelation 6. You can’t unsee it. Afterward follows the congregation of many in Heaven (the rapture), which John questions, and thereafter much upheaval, including the Mark of the Beast. No, the seals, bowls, and trumps do not run parallel to one another. The last trump itself is reference to the Feast of Trumpets, occurring at the time no man knows the day or the hour.
I submit that if you cannot discern these things now that they’ve been made plain, there is a reason you remain blinded.
I think the only thing this debate shows is the refusal any to be influenced away from their preconceived opinions. This forum is used only by those wishing to express their opinion – yes me too – and Hugo, and of course, this debate has been raging since Jesus warned us. Perhaps the uncertainty of when was deliberately designed by God to ensure continuing debate?
So Hugo, no it is not an important debate, and absolutely nothing to do with salvation. Whether we believe we are to be Raptured before, during or after the Tribulation, is irrelevant to being saved. But we should continue to be “Looking up for our redemption draws near.”
I’m not sure how near as the abomination of desolation has yet to occur, but when we see that, hold on tight !
Daniel 9:24-27 predicts exactly when Jesus would appear, when he would die for mankind and when the message of the Kingdom of God would go out to the whole world.
“Know therefore and vnderstand, that from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes; and threescore and two weekes, the street shall be built againe, and the wall, euen in troublous times.”
– Daniel 9 25
We need to look for a commandement to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem.
The commandement which most correctly answers to the specifications of Daniel 9:25 was the decree of Artaxerxes to Ezra, recorded in Ezra chapter 7.
It was issued in the year 457 BC.
A week according to this prophecy is seven years, which means that 69 weeks equals 483 years.
Since there is no year zero, this means that the 69 weeks ran until the year 27 AD.
457 BC + 483 (69 weeks) = 27 AD
Jesus was born in 4 BC and in 27 AD he was 30 years of age when he was baptized, annointed,
“Now when all the people were baptized, and it came to passe that Iesus also being baptized, and praying, the heauen was opened:And the holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a Doue vpon him, and a voice came from heauen, which said, Thou art my beloued sonne, in thee I am well pleased.
And Iesus himselfe began to be about thirty yeeres of age”
– Luke 3:21-23
According to Daniel 9:25, it would take 483 years (69 weeks) from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince. This commandment of Artaxerxes fulfils this verse as Messiah the Prince appeared in 27 AD.
“And hee shall confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the midst of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease”
– Daniel 9:27
In “the midst of the weeke” means three and a half years later. That was 31 AD.
It was the year that Jesus was crucified and his death constituted the final and perfect blood sacrifice to which all other sacrifices had previously pointed and thus perfected and ended all sacrifices.
Three and a half years later, after Stephen was stoned to death, the message of the Kingdom of God began going out to the whole world and the New Covenant was fulfilled.
I agree. It seems so obvious that I cannot believe people think this is about the AC.
Have you entertained the thought that the 3.5 years after Jesus resurrection is the entire church age? It sounds unbiblical but if you really research this idea it is fairly convincing. Read GK Beale’s book Revelation if interested. He makes some compelling points biblically.
There is a lie called preterism which says all of Matthew 24 end times was fulfilled Jesus came back and the Bible is finished.
These heretics make this present evil world the “kingdom” of Christ. Much of Matthew 24 was fulfilled in 70AD, but not all.
Those who teach the Bible is ALL past or all future is all wrong. throw away the writings of Paul and throw away the book of Revelation and full preterism works. They will argue the Bible says “Shortly comes to pass?” means a few years in human terms. God does not think in human terms, they ignore the book of acts as well as the rest of the new testament.
So this present evil world is the “Kingdom” of Christ to you? How about EVERY EYE shall see him return? Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. IN THE CLOUDS?
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. A DAY OR TWO FOR THE LORD IS NOT LONG AT ALL. Shortly come to pass
Preterism: the belief that ALL prophecy of the Bible is past.
Acts 1:11 “Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
After the resurrection Jesus appeared to the apostles and was taken into heaven.
Matthew 24:30 “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall ALL all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
Umm when did Jesus appear coming in the clouds? I missed that event.
Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he (Christ) cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Did your eyes see Christ come? Me neither – so it has to be future.
They want you to think the Lord returned in glory. Paul proves they are LIARS.
Two Conflicting Alternatives Brought Forth: Preterism and Futurism!
Rome’s answer to the Protestant Reformation was twofold, though actually conflicting and contradictory. Through the Jesuits Ribera, of Salamanca, Spain, and Bellarmine, of Rome, the Papacy put forth her futurist interpretation. Almost simultaneously Alcazar, Spanish Jesuit of Seville, advanced the conflicting preterist interpretation. These were designed to meet and overwhelm the Historical interpretation of the Protestants. Though mutually exclusive, either Jesuit alternative suited the great objective equally well, as both thrust aside the application of the prophecies from the existing Church of Rome. http://www.gospel-herald.com/futurism_history.htm
Well done Hugo, you are spot on! Anyone who takes the time to read all the ‘rapture’ scriptures for themselves, without bias, can only come to the conclusion that it is talking about the second coming that will happen at the end of the tribulation as Jesus clearly stated. We must endure to the end. Keep the faith brothers and sisters and may we not be deceived. Stay close to the Lord and His word.
Do you not read any interpretations of scripture? I find that the more I read, the deeper my understanding of scripture is. Even if I discount almost everything someone has written it can still be valuable.
Of course the Bible is the ultimate truth, but I don’t think we should discount study from others. Discernment is key.
I didn’t buy Beale’s book for that much! Wow. That’s insane.
I read our Father’s Word relying on the Holy Spirit to teach me:
John 14:26 But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you.
1 John 2:22 – Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 – Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED? Oh and you are not sure of a mark of the beast? well you shall find out when the man of sin arrives with his false prophet doing miracles.
Maybe. I will certainly be vigilant. Why do you think the mark is literal and not spiritual when the Bible talks about marks and seals as spiritual? Is it because of what is on the news?
I don’t know if there is one man of sin. I don’t think I will know until the end. I think the elite may present a man that most think is the man of sin (there is no single antichrist) but whether he is or not waits to be seen.
I really don’t know. I suppose it depends on whether I believe the signs and wonders are real of CGI!!!
the mark of the beast seems to be both physical and spiritual since one must give allegiance to the man of sin, the Beast aka antichrist. you shall have the false prophet performing miracles which shall fool the masses.
Revelation Chapter 13: 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
(mimics the miracles of Elijah in 2 Kings chapter 1)
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
2 Kings 1:10 “And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.”
2 Thessalonians Chapter 2: 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
sadly most pastors work for the enemy and teach the pre trib lie so the sheep’s faith is ruined when they find they might have to die for Christ who died for them.
John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate (ROME) sought to release (Jesus) him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. (they threatened to accuse Pilate of treason)
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
Your scriptural knowledge is defiantly improving, buckle up.
This is why Paul was chosen as a bridge between Jews and Gentiles, no one understood the previous value of circumcision more than Paul. Paul had really difficult job, on one hand trying to coax the Jews away from their physical circumcision that used to make them superior whilst trying to teach the inclusion of righteous Gentiles and the things required of them by God to keep them clean, The Commandments.
It is easy to understand the reluctance of the Jews to give up this mark that had previously made them superior. Unfortunately many still continue this ‘mutilation’ in some sort of haze or delusion. These people should not be hated for their delusion because unless they wake up they will pay a terrible price.
We have to understand God has picked people multiple times and multiple times they have fallen to satan, because satan is only interested in corrupting those people that are with God. God has to be sure we will do what is right whatever pressure we are put under and we must each be tested to OUR level, but God says we will not be tested beyond OUR ability to cope. Imagine you have a strong powerful person who is tested mildly and is chosen by God, the first thing satan would say to anyone that would listen is “they had an easy ride”. God must also test those he gave a ‘personal’ covenant to to a higher level as they knew God and still chose to follow satan.
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
1 Corinthians 10, 13
1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Romans 5
10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Isaiah 48, 10-11
Stand righteous and strong in repentance and cleanliness, the way is narrow and strict, and so it should be. God will no longer risk the pollution of his name by those that claim to follow The Word.
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satan knows how his end will come. it is already written.
3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,
4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
First the evil rulers of Babylon will be dethroned and thrown into the gutter.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
Then satan is thrown into the gutter onto those rulers of Babylon that once worshipped him in fear and awe.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
They see satan has none of the power he convinced them of, they see him as just a week man and mock him.
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
Compare this description of satan with Ezekiel 28, 13, his beauty, the workmanship of his instrument and voice the perfection of the creation of God is now described as a screeching noise, his once golden jewel encrusted body now covered in worms.
(Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.)
Ezekiel 28:13
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
The rulers of Babylon that bowed down and filled satan with bold praise and service now looking upon him, goading, mocking him, deriding him as he rolls in the dirt and worms.
18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
This is why he despises his followers and hates them to destruction. I know his workers come here and really and truthfully you should understand his plan for you. You can still with a open heart repent your sins and come to God.
I think we should all have a nice cup of tea and cake and relax.
If you’re not a Christian and reading this, God loves you and sent His son Jesus Christ to die for all of your sins, so that you may have eternal life. Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Call on Him today.
it’s such an important doctrine. I can’t imagine why somebody would deny it. but I guess being suspicious of anything the media hypes is a legit way to be. i get it. soooo maybe they are doing this book/movie hype on purpose bc they know we would say that and so it’s like a reverse pshycology type dealio???? in my life I know that the so-called Christians in bible studies i attend or serve with in para church ministries who don’t believe in the rapture are also usually haughty, ignorant, evolution believing, works based, catholics or lutherans or presbyterians or others who baptise babies, number the commandmens wrong and are anti-Israel and lean towards climate change/black lives matter/soccer/ dog worshipness/rainbow/tran/disney/democrat stuff….and they mock the real Christians who want to save babies, support Israel, preach the gospel and love everyone.
Oh we believe in the resurrection, just not at the beginning of the tribulation. anti-Israel? you mean support the anti-christs that hate and curse Jesus and Christians? You support them? 1 John 2:22 – Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 – Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mat 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (which is why the New Testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew since it was the so called “Jews” who killed Jesus)
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
So you think we should pray for, bless and support those who hate Christ?
Its about Family… Were you called by your shepherd, are you a Sheep or a goat, a wheat or a tair… Its about family, my father is the king of Kings & lord of lords, there is no one like Him
Agreed Jesus is God in the flesh King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ is God Incarnate “…they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US.” — MATTHEW 1:23 Neither is there salvation in any other [than Jesus]: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12
The evil ones want to deceive Christian people by teaching the pre trib rapture lie.
Some are merely mislead and others deceive due to evil.
So the lukewarm churchy people lose their faith when they “miss the rapture” and believers understand they must die for their faith – totally unprepared.
All cause their paid for lying preachers teach it to plant a false prophecy so when it fails they can call Jesus a false prophet and deny him and end up worshiping the beast.
Besides church goers will have fewer tithe payers if they know they must die for the faith, so preachers teach the pre trib fairy tale lie.
Pre tribber teachers lie and say: “Jesus is not a wife beater”
“God would never let us die for our faith or suffer persecution”
“that clear Bible warning verse is not for Christians, it is ONLY for the Jews”
10 of the 12 apostles died for their faith. Stephen died for his faith.
Paul died for his faith. Millions in history died for their faith in Jesus.
Pre tribbers are the spoiled brats of western churchianity.
50+ Millions Christians died in Communist Russian under Stalin in the last 100 years,
what they were not worthy to escape?
Perhaps they can trick them to take 666 the mark of the beast since Satan convinced them it is not the mark of the beast as they can not be here for it?
Why we will not be here for the mark of the beast – so this can not be it they shall say
many shall deny their faith thinking Jesus was a “false prophet” since he “lied” about the pre trib rapture…?
false prophecies has consequences….
they shall follow the messiah of the ANTICHRIST Jews as the Jews proudly proclaim: “SEE WE TOLD YOU JESUS WAS A FALSE MESSIAH AND FALSE PROPHET? false prophecies has consequences….
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
Billy Crone- Get A Life Ministries did a thorough study and research about all of the pastors and scholars who wrote and taught on the proof of the Pre-trib Rapture as far back as 130 A.D.! Before, the lies came forward in 1830 out of Ireland and unraveled the truth evidenced in so many scriptures!!
Im saddened to hear hugo, some, / demons / people have threatened you, its very sad to hear this, especially as all your videos are Truthful & you speak the Truth in Love, the same as Jesus Christ, would do… ((wwjd))
All i can say is a prayer to the Father & for a plee for forgiveness.. About the rapture as i was fed lies, from different churches i attended… I was once very gullible, i suppose, i look at things, with child like faith…. As i was listening to you Hugo, i felt to write a prayer of forgiveness to the Father & to Jesus Christ, on here & elsewhere as im disslesive person & have really struggle reading spelling & remembering some things, so i mostly listen to things, videos, audio, etc, when i used to attend ((the shed)) ((the church)) etc i believed everything the minister / pastor said, …. As a child…
Thank you Jesus Christ for waking me up & removing me from that evil structure of control & abuse,, called church…
Dear Lord Jesus Christ & my Heavenly Father, please for give me for listening to man (ie ministers, pastors, evangelists etc) Thank you Father for waking me up in 2018/19 & for personally removing me from those places of liers, decevers & abominations, called church… & for you delivering me from tha sess pit of vipers..
Thank you for Family & Thank you for Being my Father in Heaven, he teaches me & corrects, like a Father should
Thank you Father God, for speaking to Hugo & thank you, for Hugo listening to your Son Jesus Christ & following him alone,, and for speaking the king james Bible verses to us all, thank you for Hugos Gift of talking & speaking, please Jesus Christ, Bless Hugo & his Family & may no harm come to him or his Loved ones, in the Mighty name of Jesus Christ my Lord & Saviour.. Amen and Amen 🙏🏻
((( BLESSED IS THE MAN WHO PERSEVERES UNDER TRIAL… james 1 v 12 )))
SALVATION ISSUE.
Revelation 14:11
“And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
AFTER 1st RESURRECTION
“Rapture” is after the 1st Resurrection.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
SUFFER & DIE then 1st RESURRECTION
If you don’t believe you will be on Earth during the Mark of the Beast you will definitely take it. You won’t be able to buy or sell without it. At some point you will face beheading.
Revelation 20:4-6
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
2nd RESURRECTION IS UNTO DEATH
Revelation 20:7-15
”And when the thousand years are expired … And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged …. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
DECEIVED
Revelation 19:20
“And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast…”
No one is raptured until AFTER those who die during the Mark of the Beast are beheaded.
The people who take the Mark of the Beast are deceived.
Burn forever if you are tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast.
Hugo, I have watched your videos for some time now and find you to be spot on most of the time. I appreciate your content and have not left a comment until now. I love this subject. There is no better way to torque off an evangelical christian than to attack the sacred doctrine of the rapture and dipensationalism in general. Its adherents can be rabidly inconsistent and equally angry when confronted with biblical truth of its non existence. people love to tell me to read the “left behind” books and other non fiction books by the same authors. Well, I have and its all gibberish, charts, graphs and twisted scripture. So, we are on the same page as far as that goes. I do take exception to your statement that the old covenant has been renewed and that there is no division between the old and new. I may have misunderstood your statement, but I will continue anyway. You rightly quote Jesus when he said he came to fulfill the law and the prophets and indeed that covenant has been fulfilled, Jesus himself being the fulfillment. I will not quote you a bunch of verses, but only a few to show that the old covenant is gone and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was the exclamation point of its end. I would refer you to Hebrews chapters 7-10 as a starting point. Hebrews chapter 8:12-13 ” For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, a new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.” These four chapters give proper preeminence to the new covenant. You rightly say there is no division, all are one in Christ. This is very true in the new covenant and quite false in the old. I could go on and on but I will cut this short, But would direct you to Mathew 21:33-46, the parable of the husbandmen. This is a fascinating and deep parable, but verses 43-44 ‘Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder,”
respectfully,
Jason, across the pond and high on the mountain.
The is a good respectful comment indeed. We all need to realize that Yah made an everlasting covenant with Abraham while His covenant with Israel was conditional.
Good point Jason – Jesus said: John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
Someone asked Jesus what was the most important commandment.
Matthew 22:36 – Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 – Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 – This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 – And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 – On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets. On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets. Hopefully we have enough sense to know that we are not to love the enemies of God and have them as neighbors. Maybe we should move if you have satanists as neighbors?
This is such a good video, Hugo! Absolutely agree. People don’t even know the difference between the old and new Covenant anymore. If they did, they would see that there’s no way the Jewish nation will rule again as God’s people or etc.
Christians have experienced tribulation for almost 2000 years. But I’m not sure that this is the same as the Great Tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:21:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
It is tempting to equate the Great Tribulation with the “time of Jacob’s trouble” and with Daniel’s 70th week. But we can’t really be sure that these are all the same.
Romans 11:25-26 seems to suggest that there will be a period after all the Gentiles have been saved when Israel will be saved:
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
So it is also tempting to suppose that the salvation of Israel will happen during the “time of Jacob’s trouble” and Daniel’s 70th week but this is just a guess.
I don’t really trust anyone who claims to know exactly what is going to happen at the Second Coming. The messages of the Seven Thunders were not included in the Book of Revelation. So we know that we don’t have the full story about what is going to happen. We just need to keep spreading the Gospel while we wait to see what happens.
I just had another thought on this topic. Those of you who have researched, yes actually looked into, the flat earth stuff know that the earth really is flat, motionless, within an [inescapable] dome. BUT how many of you know that this recent flat earth movement was started by Eric Dubey with his flat earth book – The Atlantian Conspiracy? I believe, and the evidence suggests, that Eric is a “controlled opposition” agent. But if that is true, why the heck would he have started such a “truth tsunami”? Most people when they find out that he is the person who basically started the recent movement, use that fact alone to reject the entire argument (and its a very convincing argument) out of hand!
Now maybe, just maybe, the entire pre-trib rapture was taken public or hyped up by obvious controlled opposition and mainstream elements for the reason that many would use that fact alone to reject the entire concept.
Also I think it is very, very possible that the coming “alien deception” (project blue beam) is going to be used to explain away the sudden disappearance of all those who have been “raptured” (whenever it happens). Why else would the enemy use so much time and resources to bring about an alien deception? Certainly he/they could use an “on planet” reason to bring about their one world religion and government without the use of aliens, no?
Isaiah 40:22 “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
Instead of arguing over the shape of the earth, we should argue over what type of stones to use on sodomites / satanists
Dear Hugo, it is right to open a honest discussion. I think the underlying fear is twofold; the fear of being ‘left behind’ due to Jesus ‘not knowing’ one, despite the various protestations (Mathew 7: 21-23) but actually due to hubris, self sanctimony. We are all guilty of these mind sets, and even if the rapture is real, one should not take it for granted. The other fear, what medics know a lot about, is the fear of dying (the process of dying). Christians are no different in this basic fear. I think both these fears are satanically inspired.
Perhaps Christians need to sober up and become stoic; that there is a good chance we will be actively martyred, or die due to malnourishment having refused the mark of the beast (I think it is an sub dermally imprinted QR code).
As for ‘dispensationalism, surely is this not antiemetic? We are trying to suggest that we the gentiles are superior and owe priority to to the Jews? Remember the parable of the vineyard workers, the fuss made by those who started early, when the latecomers were given the same stipend (Matthew 20: 1-6). So there is no priority in salvation between those who accepted Jesus and agreed to be born again in the holy spirit, and those saints who gain this during the 7 year tribulation.
I would also like to comment on circumcision. The medical justification includes failure to retract the foreskin (rare), and primary prevention of infections (including sexually transmitted infections) residing between the foreskin and the head of the penis. Circumcision makes it easy to wash the penis also. ‘Circumcision of the heart’ (Romans 2: 28 – 29) to my mind is willingly opening up all our memory stores to be examined by the Holy Spirit and Jesus, who you have invited to live in your heart (consciousness). So ‘skeletons in the cupboard’ and closed back rooms. This takes much courage, but you can feel much ‘lighter’ in your heart and soul. In ‘pilgrim’s progress’ John Bunyan describes the person dropping his heavily laden backpack, to proceed to heaven a lot easier and faster. But I also note that the final bit of the journey is fearlessly getting in to the river to let go of one’s earthly life. Not that I am recommending suicide, but facing the onset of death with equanimity and as I said before, with stoicism.
Finally Hugo, please can you clarify the progression and continuing links between the 10 commandments given to Moses (and I believe to Abraham) and Jesus’s ‘New Covenant’ of salvation by Faith and Grace. After all Jesus did say not a ‘jot or tittle’ of the 10 commandments was being changed; just that he was adding clarifications and overarching principles to make observing the 10 commandments easier (?). Please help us out Hugo.
Good comment except one thing, dispensationalism is not anti-Semitic, rather it is “Jewish” supremacy. GENTILE merely means “NATION” AND NOT NON-JEW. Jews broke the covenant with the Lord. Exodus 19:5 – Now therefore, IF IF IF ye (Jews) will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Jer 11:10 – They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.
Lev 18:5 – Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which IF IF IF a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
Thing is the Jews did not keep the covenant and did you know God DIVORCED ISRAEL….Hmmm.most do not think so
Jeremiah 3:8 – And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Jer 5:11 – For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD.
Question: Who does the Bible alone say KILLED JESUS
A: 1 Thess 2:14-15 …even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, ….
Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews?
A: Act 4:12 – Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mat 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Matthew 23:15 – Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (ALL Pharisees are Jews, not all Jews are Pharisees) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
John in John 3:36 – He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
1Cor 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
I want to agree with you when you asked – Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews? Because to believe otherwise sort of diminishes the entire new covenant.
But, I have a problem with the following passages. Can you please explain what Paul meant in Romans 11:26 KJV when he wrote “And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written”?
Romans 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Yes all Israel shall be saved, but not without Christ. Explained easily – Paul writes Romans 3:23 “For ALL all have SINNED sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” ….all have sinned……so did Jesus sin? If all means all then we have no savior. Yet writing of Christ in Hebrews 4:15 “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.” Jesus was without SIN and yet ALL have sinned. so is ALL Israel saved with or without Christ? If yes then Jesus is a liar.
John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:22 – 29: And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon’s porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.”
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
The Big Deception is the current jews are Fake jews.
They are NOT Gods Chosen ones. They are NOT the children of Jacob/Israel.
They do NOT worship the Living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
They follow satan.
They, sacrifice babies, lie, steal and murder. And have done so for centuries.
Research the history of the Khazarian jews and their satanic talmud book.
One better not pray for these enemies of God.
They trampled His Holy Land and sent His Children into slavery.
Chaplain Bob Walker, Shalom, peace be with you. You seem to be very informative and knowledgeable can you please help me in your understanding of Matthew 27:52 when the graves were open? Was this also some kind of rapture or maybe there was more than one rapture?
blessings, Gino
Greetings, Matthew Chapter 27: 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Can you imagine the stories those who were dead and came back to life told. This was 3 days after the crucifiction
The book of revelation was written decades later. There were a few instances of those who had died were brought back to life and even in the old testament. In 1 Kings Chapter 17 Elijah was allowed to bring back to life the widow’s son. In 2 Kings 13:21 a dead man touched the bones of the prophet and came back to life. In acts 20 Paul was allowed to revive a dead boy.
However these are not the 2 resurrections of the book of revelation. Jesus in John 5:29 “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
Revelation 20:5 “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.”
Revelation 20:6 “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
Concerning the graves opening after the death of Christ, did you know Jesus went to Hell for 3 days to preach to the old testament saints?
They are now in heaven awaiting their resurrected bodies. Revelation 20:4 “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls (not bodies) of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”
Revelation 6:9 “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:”
Luke 16 covers the old testament saints in Abraham’s bosom.
Matthew 12:40 “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall (Jesus) the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
1 Peter 3:19 “By which also he (Christ) went and preached unto the spirits in (Hell) prison;”
Please everyone here, believe what you want, Im not here to deceive anyone, Im just giving my opinion, on how I am learning and interpreting scripture for myself. King James Bible ONLY.
I still believe there will be a pre-trib rapture because of these scriptures below.
Trump is only mentioned twice in the King James Bible, and this is how I see these two chapters and verses linking to the revelation trumpets.
my opinion is, the trump refers to GOD, and then attention is drawn to; ( for the trumpet shall sound )
which refers too; ( And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. ) this is the 1st trumpet ready to sound, straight after Jesus Christ claims His Bride, because we are in Him and He His in Us, for we are the body of Christ, then Wrath of God is sounded unto all those in the Earth/World.
at the last trump, trump of God, And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound, for the trumpet shall sound, and the first angel sounded.
I can still be wrong, however, I have to ask this question, If the Father in Heaven refers to His Sheep, as His priced possession, and say your priced possession, was something dear to you, would you give up any of your priced possessions to be trampled on?, so why would Jesus God incarnate and His Holy Spirit suffer lose in this way?.
I`m not here to convince you, like I said before, its how I read it and understand it. remember the rapture is not that important, preaching the Gospel, leading others to Christ is the most important thing us Christians should be focused on, God Bless.
1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: ( for the trumpet shall sound ), and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Revelation 8:7
4And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. 5And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 ( And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. ) 7The (first angel sounded), and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8And the (second angel sounded), and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10And the (third angel sounded), and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Revelation 8:12
9And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12And the (fourth angel sounded), and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
Revelation 9:1
1And the (fifth angel sounded), and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Revelation 9:13
10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. 13And the (sixth angel sounded), and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Revelation 11:15
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15And the (seventh angel sounded); and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
The seals:
I believe the white horse is the pope and its UN army.
The red horse is the communistic countries.
The black horse is the black pope and petroleum.
The green/pale horse is islam. (1/4 is Islamic now)
Now all four are ready to make war against God’s children.
The trumpets:
Since the third trumpet, Wormwood, literally means Chernobyl. I believe it was blown in 1986.
So the first trumpet is WW1, for indeed all green was burned.
The second trumpet is WW2, for indeed 1/3 of the ships perished.
The fourth trumpet is Kuwait, for indeed the sun, moon and stars were darkened.
The fifth trumpet may have been the economic collapse of 2008, for it lasted exactly five months and the suicide lines were ringing 24/7.
Now we’re waiting for the sixth trumpet, which is the four horses making war, WW3.
Dear Hugo,
Thank you much for posting these difficult subjects.
PLEASE make a video about the FIRST BEAST introducing the Mark of the Beast.
For Revelation 19:20 clearly states the First Beast gets thrown into the lake of fire together with the False Prophet for DECEIVING the whole world with the MotB.
The SECOND BEAST merely adds that no one may buy or sell without the MotB. (Rev.13)
He gets BOUND for 1000 years. Revelation 20:1.
To me it is so clear the Jab is the MotB.
For the UN is the First Beast.
Were, are and will be.
Many tell me it’s all in the past.
But in the meantime the CBDC is being introduced worldwide.
The UN is introducing the Digital Health Pass.
Some day in the near future one will not be able to buy or sell without showing proof of vaccination.
It will be a devastating realisation for those Christians that took the MotB already.
@Seeker
I can buy and sell. I’ve seen rivers of blood. 1/3rd of the sea/fish dying. But not 1/3rd of ships destroyed.
We’re 2 years in. The Jewish sacrifices have not resumed. Though they could as soon as the fall/next spring. Next month of Av. if the red heifer’s are “pristine.”
The Son of perdition is supposed to stop the sacrifices and declare himself god.
Revelation is mysterious. But who gives the mark? The 2nd beast who heals the 1st beast’s mortal wound.
That didn’t happen. People were fooled/ignorant/coerced into gene therapy/sterilization and depopulation. (Plague?)
Get ready to be hungry, because we haven’t seen anything yet.
Gotta love the statues of other gods around “secular sites” like CERN and Shiva. There are dozens more.
Oh to be clear. I didn’t have any injections or wear a mask ever.
But “Graphene in rainwater.” – July 2021… “Andreas Noack: Graphene pioneer.” (Micro Razor Blades Injected) Graphene Hydroxide. Non-biodegradable. 1 atom thick and sharp enough to cut epithelial cells.
You’ve seen the stuff (Computer chips? Tubes and structures in blood/injection vials) under dark-field microscopy? Over 5 nations have released microscope images of adulterants in unopened vials.
The Rapture comes from the Schofield Bible commissioned by the Rothschilds. There is no rapture we have to go through tribulation. See eurofolkradio.com or age of laodicea.com
See “Dr. Walter Martin: Historical Pre-millennialism.” It’s what the church believed for ~1800 years. Before the Darby hooey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTyle41I6k I basically only listen to dead preachers, who have P. Greek/Hebrew linguistic knowledge/education.
What if, Disclaiming the pre-trib rapture, discourages people wanting to be saved by the Gospel, your saying, if I have to go through the tribulation, what’s the point of being saved by the Gospel, if it is the power of God unto Salvation, what then?, how and if I could lose it in the tribulation, don`t you think Satan wants as many left behind as possible unsaved, to persecute, and not removed out, to the safety of God in heaven.
One is going to have a choice – serve Christ or serve satan. Matthew 10:28 “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Luke 12:5 “But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.” Read the book of acts sometime where people died for their faith
Hugo, you have opened a can of worms! I love it. There have been some questions in this discussion about all of Israel being saved and questions of a similar pattern. I believe Romans 9:6-9 gives us a clear answer. Read it in context and see, but here it is. ” Not as though the word of God has taken none affect. For they are not all Israel , which are of Israel: Neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.” The new Covenant Israel is all who believe in Christ, Jew or Gentile, and through Christ we become heirs of the promise and the children of God. And all Israel will be saved.
Respectfully,
Jason across the pond and high on the mountain
Did you know the Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL? Jeremiah 3:8 “And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.”
and yet there was to be a new covenant (Christ) Jeremiah 31:31 “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:”
Just because someone claims to be a Jew does not make it so. Yes so ALL Israel (who was divorced) shall be saved IF they accept Christ as the new covenant. Does all mean all? Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
SO did Jesus sin?
Sorry, I meant to answer this. “Did Jesus sin?”
Unequivocally, no He did not, ever. Never-ever. Matthew 4, Mark 1, and Luke 4. All state He did not. Tempted by Satan for 40 days.
This is part of why He was the perfect sacrifice. Worthy of all our sins.
Unlike an Ox, Cow or Whatever. He was and is, the sinless man-god/God-man/Son of man/Son of God.
Jesus Christ, Yeshua Hamashiach. Once and for all, Messiah, Saviour.
Romans 2:12-13 “For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.”
Agreed so when Paul said ALL have sinned it excludes Jesus and when the Bible says ALL Israel shall be saved, it excludes those who reject Christ. Jews do not get saved without going thru Jesus. Muslims and Jews say their god has no Son.
Psalms 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little.
Psalms 2:7 “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”
Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (Hebrews 1:2)
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:3)
So many Christians don’t know the God of the whole Bible is Jesus. Father God gave everything unto Jesus. They think there is two Gods, that the mean angry one in the Old Covenant and that nice one in the New Covenant. He said I am the Lord thy God and I change not.
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (1 Corinthians 10:4)
That’s why Jesus said “if you have the Son you have the Father also”
So if one only believes in the God of the Old Covenant as Creator, as some other God, (Jews call that God HaShem which in Hebrew means The Name) Well our God has a name and His name is Jesus.
Anyone who denies that name is accursed. Jesus is The only Way.
Yes, I know of the divorce, and no Christ did not sin and being God in the flesh he cannot fall short of His own glory. The distinction I am trying to make is that “Israel”, that despotic government on stolen land in Palestine is not the Israel of God. “for he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly: neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly: and circumcision, is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter: whose praise is not of men , but of God.” Romans 2:28-29.
The trouble with taking Scripture out of context & in isolation can lead people to believe that Christ has forever ‘divorced’ His people. That is not so: as pardon Is promised (3:12-20). “See God’s readiness to pardon sin, and the blessings reserved for gospel times. These words were proclaimed toward the north; to Israel, the ten tribes, captive in Assyria. They are directed how to return. If we confess our sins, the Lord is faithful and just to forgive them. These promises are fully to come to pass in the bringing back the Jews in after-ages.
To believe that Israel exists on stolen land is a raging of anti-Semitism. There is no such place as Palestine, which ‘exists’ on Israeli land that they will soon recover. Watch for the war of Ezekiel 38-39. Israel is the ONLY country in the world which borders are outlined in the Bible.
I noticed jchr12 blocked me. That is what they do when they can not back up their lies with the Bible as all they can do is call you names like anti-Semite, bigot or what not. Well if one really wants to know what the synagogue of satan believes (they pretend to be Jews) it is a simple matter of reading their own writings.
What do the Jews really think of Jesus. https://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (magician, idolator, sexually impure)
Yeshu is a curse that means may his name be blotted out. sometimes they add an “A” to Yeshu and tell you it means savior.
Look into the Noahide laws. Was Noah given a set of laws? NO these Noahide laws exist only in the minds of antichrist Rabbis.
Yes, I am quite familiar with the noahide laws and such. I don’t know how to have an intelligent conversation with somebody that says Palestine doesn’t exist. It’s mind numbing. Many of these same people are just fine with Israel running Palestinian christians off their land which have been in their families for hundred of years. Real brothers and sisters in Christ dispossessed of their land, killed and tortured and “christian zionists” love it. Well, they do not follow the Prince of Peace as far as I am concerned. Just so there is no question that Palestine exists here are the 4 biblical references: Joel 3:3, Exodus 15:14, Isaiah 14:29, and Isaiah 14:31.
A short history of Palestine: The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece, when Herodotus wrote of a “district of Syria, called Palaistinê“ in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.
It is quite difficult to argue with such historical and biblical ignorance. I will say you do a pretty good job of it.
I agree with you Jason – the antichrists claiming to be “Jews” murder Christian Palestinians and steal their homes and bulldozed their churches and we are supposed to bless the antichrists who curse Jesus? No such thing as a christian zionist. that is like a christian witch or christian satanist. I await what the zionists will do when the antichrists tell them to deny Jesus or get their heads cut off under the Noahide laws.
jchr12 says no christian ever hated Jews? Well Jews hate Jesus who is the Christ. King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews – King James Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
….because I tell you the truth….
….because I tell you the truth….
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL. I suppose jchr12 believes Jesus is not a “Christian” for such hate on the Jews.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be “christians”
Look, I have heard all this before and it’s christian fairy tails. This can’t happen until this happens and then this will happen and on and on and always wrong. I remember when it was all the buzz that after 40 years ( a supposed generation) from the establishment of the Zionist state of Israel it was rapture time. No other foolish prophecies from these people have come to pass either. So , you want to toss antisemitism willy-nilly, well how about this doosy. The current political state of Israel is a satanic counterfeit to dupe naive and ignorant “christians” into remaining under the law, the old covenant, instead of taking their Christ bought, Christ given place in the new Covenant. I am going to wager a guess that you don’t even know what Semitic is. Semitic is not a people per se, there are many Semitic speaking people groups, therefore, semetic is a type of language and there are many Semitic speaking peoples including the Palestinians ( that don’t exist of course). So, when people like you ignorantly toss the term antisemitic out to virtue signal, I always respond with I am not antisemitic, I love the Palestinian people.
You’ve heard it before because it’s true. You say you love Palestinian people, but seem to hate Jews. That means you’re not a Christian.
Jesus was born a Jew, and lived & taught as a Jew. They were & remain God’s chosen & Jesus will return to Jerusalem to rule all people’s. ALL faiths will be judged by Christ.
The reestablishment of Israel is as prophesied, and its success in defending itself is miraculous, so I’d be careful in how you view that Nation.
It is written that the generation alive at the time the ‘fig tree blossoms’ (Israel) will see the return of Christ, so we are very close to the end.
Again, I know the fairy tales that John Hagee and his ilk espouse. Just because you can regurgitate what people like him have told you doesn’t make it true, it is not true. Scofield futurist dispensationalism has turned Christianity into war mongering, blood thirsty, murderous religion in the eyes of unbelievers and the world, as America fights “wars” for Israel. The actual Christians in these war torn countries are so confused as to how their supposed brethren could support a war against them in support of an atheistic, occultic nation of Israel. Nobody loves killing innocents in the name of Israel more than American “Christians”.
This is a good synopsis: “Evangelicals erroneous interpretation of Israel, which includes the erroneous belief that Zionist Israel is Biblical Israel, which prompts Christians to support all kinds of wars, some of which could lead to world war 3 including the current one, which would be a nuclear war, and their erroneous interpretation of a pre-tribulation rapture,which allows them to promote such wars with the false confidence that they will be raptured to heaven before a global war will start, means they are foolishly endangering both their own children’s lives and the lives of the people of the world in a war from which there is no rapture and which they helped to create.”
Pastor Chuck Baldwin, Liberty Fellowship
Oh, lest I forget you said no Christian “hated” Jews. Just for the record, speaking critically of someone or some thing is not hatred. But I would refer you to John Calvin. I am sure you will be shocked to read what he wrote.
80% of evangelicals believe in some sort of Scofield futurist heresy, so truly the road is narrow for those who are not under the delusion of this false Israel. 1800 years of church history did not suffer under this delusion.
Understanding comes from knowing the Word. It’s interesting that you denigrate John Hagee, but then refer to Calvin. Accepting only arguments that fit your beliefs and rejecting others seems to be the way of this forum, which often escalates into personal abuses.
There’s no escaping your hatred of Jews whether or not you accept the moniker anti-Semitic. Hatred of an entire race of people is nearer to insane than I expect you’d care accept, and is far from Christian. Aside from being a most welcoming Nation, Israel is far from atheist, but has devout Jews, and practicing Jews, and many other religions with many turning to Christ. It is a safe haven in an area of antidemocratic hatred.
Believing that somehow God has rejected them, or that Jews have morphed into something other than Jews is only a cover for anti-Semitism.
People are just people. Some better than others, and all will be judged by Christ.
Only an ANTICHRIST Zionist would call the words of Jesus and the Bible as “HATE SPEECH” or “ANTI – SEMITIC”
I am certain had you lived in the time of Jesus you would have proudly stood next to the Jews screaming CRUCIFY HIM to Pilate to have Jesus killed.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews – King James Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
….because I tell you the truth….
….because I tell you the truth….
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be “christians”
Did you read Calvin? I thought not. Quit your ad hominem attacks and address the the argument.You have yet to engage in the actual argument and just fawn over the tyrannical state of Israel and virtue signal your mental slavery to the Jewish religion.
I don’t believe I have attacked you, but apologies if you feel I have. You use Calvin to justify & support your hatred, and that is not in His Word. I believe the Bible, so do my best to love all. God chose the Jewish matriarchal bloodline to give us His son, and that deserves honouring. He will also return there, and that too should tell you something.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 – I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. and….
Jesus in Revelation 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
This jchr12 says the synagogue of satan who are antichrists that curse Jesus are Israel.
Bible old testament book of Amos 5:26 – But ye [Jews] have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch (Satanic god child sacrifice by fire) and Chiun your images, the STAR STAR STAR star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. (Jews carried what star?)
Acts 7:43 – Yea, ye [Jews] took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR STAR STAR star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
What STAR STAR STAR do the jews (even so called Messianic) carry? Moloch and Remphan
Moloch was the satanic god that demanded children be burned alive in fire.
Remphan has reference to the giants, think Goliath
Look at the Israeli flag.
Well, that is not a real apology. You can’t say ” if you feel like I have attacked you” and then attack again in the next breath by saying “your hatred”. So, I will take it for what it is, not a real apology, but I accept it and thank you. I don’t hate anyone, but I will not align myself with enemies of Christ and I will criticize and call out those said enemies. Did you know you cannot publicly preach the Gospel in the state of Israel and that attempting to convert people to Christ is a crime and punishable by law and that Israeli converts to Christ are persecuted by the state of Israel?
Did you know that the Bible has restrictions in 52 countries? Some where it’s difficult/dangerous to obtain, some illegal or highly restricted, and some strictly illegal and only available through covert smuggling.
You will be aware that extreme Islamists kill Christians, and indeed are killing them. Do you hate all these too, or just Jews ? Oh sorry, you don’t hate just won’t align yourself with enemies of Christ.
ANTICHRIST JEWS HATE AND KILL CHRIST
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Act 9:23 – And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him
Act 23:12 – And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
Act 26:21 – For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Matthew 23:15 – Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
I am not selective, I do not align myself any of them either. But, Israel has this false facade of being a democratic state, with freedom of religion and it is a lie and it is a lie that needs to be revealed.
Yeah the creation of the antichrist Israeli state IS prophecy unfolding. It is not the Lord returning true Israel to the land since it will be the Lord himself who will bring true Israel back. Rather gathering the antichrists who hate Jesus in the land is the gathering of the tares or weeds to be burned in the parable of the wheat and the tares.
Jesus tells us plainly in Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed (weeds) tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST first the TARES (WEEDS) tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
(first the tares WEEDS get gathered, then the wheat last) could it be any more plain than this?) Did Jesus mess up the timing of end time events? pre tribbers seem to think so.
Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
@Chaplain Bob Walker
Alright. While I agree with you on many points of theology.
Painting “Jews” with such a broad brush, is doing nothing but turning people away. All Muslims want to kill you? No. All Jews think this/want that. No.
You’re mixing things together. Your paint is brown. Don’t tar everyone with the same brush. There are many Jews who have become Christians. There are many Islamic who turn to Christ. 1 Billion Islamic, 1 Billion Chinese, 1 Billion Indians. 1 Billion Christians. Approximately… That’s 4 opinions. No wait it’s 4 Billion. You can use fancy words and dance around but, really you’re not helping anyone find Christ.
Sorry, if that’s too critical. I wanted to be honest without being completely disrespectful. Maybe you will read and regard it, momentarily at least.
When a Jew truly believes in Christ (Like Paul) they cease to be Jews and are Christians. Yeshua of the so called messianic Jews is Lucifer in their complete Jewish Bible. Is Yeshua (Jesus) really Lucifer per the Complete (Messianic) Jewish Bible by Messianic Jewish ”MESSIANIC” author David Stern and his COMPLETE JEWISH BIBLE (NIV does the same)
The MORNING STAR (Lucifer in the KJV) who FELL from heaven in Isaiah 14 who goes to the pit.
Yeshua is the MORNING STAR of Revelation 22. (they want us to believe Jesus)
The messianic so called Jews claim Yeshua is the morning star who fell from heaven and is going to the pit who in the king james is called Lucifer.
So basically Jesus is Yeshua which is Morning Star who is the bad guy of Isaiah 14 going to hell. So is Yeshua really Lucifer? Only if you are a “messianic” Jew like david stern in his Bible.
This is what Messianic Jews teach and believe according to the Complete Jewish Bible by David Stern a so called messianic Jew. PS the NIV bible does the same thing.
The angel Gabriel Gave Mary the name of Jesus in the book of Luke which was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
I think the error here in this sub discussion is that Israel today are NOT the Jews (Judeans) of Jesus time. They are those who say they are Jews but are not. Once you realize they are imposters and the children of Satan (literally look it up Cain is NOT in Adam’s bloodline he is the son of Satan) you realize the error of your opinions. Unfortunately I must side with the Chaplin Bob on this one (a Christian believer who hates the “Jews”) even though he is harsh and rude most the time on this forum.
Woah, where is the reply button? Way up there ^
@Seeker
“Israel today are NOT the Jews (Judeans) of Jesus time.” Oui oui! Ja-ja! They seem to be even more “prideful” and Xenophobic. Among other things.
“They are those who say they are Jews but are not.” That’s scripture from Rev. Specifically for the church of Ephesus. It does not, necessarily apply to all of Israel/Judea.
Cain said to God: Am I my brother’s keeper? Able was a son of God. Ergo, Cain, his brother is also a son of God. Both are son’s of Adam before Seth.
You can make a point without insulting, or other things Bob does. (Chaplain must be a last name, I hope.)
Let’s quote Galatians 5:19-23 “Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.”
And James 3:1 “Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.”
Whoops! Most theologians are of the view that Cain’s descendants were killed in the flood. It was Seth’s offspring who where Noah’s lineage. Er, Noah was Seth’s descendant. Seth obviously had decedents die in the flood.
@Jason
“There is only one name under heaven by which we can be saved.” Acts 4:12
Israel is not praising His name. They’re still waiting for the messiah. They’re going to burn a “red heifer”” soon.
So yes, I agree. “The new Covenant Israel is all who believe in Christ, Jew or Gentile, and through Christ we become heirs of the promise and the children of God.” But no … “And all Israel will be saved.” No, that’s not biblical or even Jewish, Tanach belief… I don’t know about all the Talmud’s. It’s not in the New Testament, at all. “Narrow is the gate.”
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 – I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. and….
Jesus in Revelation 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Act 9:23 – And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him
Act 23:12 – And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
Act 26:21 – For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Matthew 23:15 – Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mat 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
I agree, the Israel of Romans 11:26 is does not refer to the nation of Israel, It is speaking of the true Israel of God, the church, the body of Christ, Jew and Gentile and all of true Israel will be saved.
@Jason
Right, thank you for pointing that out. It is in the NT. But it depends what “all” means. All Christian’s will be saved. But Christ will say to some: “I never knew you.”
I will expand the scripture. Romans 11:23-32 “And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.”
Neither all of Israel, nor Christian’s will literally be saved. Jesus Christ is the linchpin of the new covenant.
Sorry If I am repeating someone else. Jesus never lies. He said he will come twice.
He’s come, and left for now. When He comes back again. “The sky will roll back like a scroll.” Rev. or Isaiah… Or Matthew 24:27 “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
It’s going to be obvious, if you’re alive and with Christ.
Great video. We are all children of God. Dispensationalism, is replacement theology!!
It requires separation of “Jews” and “The church” … Gentiles are grafted in! (not separate)
Thanks for pointing out a few choice scriptures that signify a mid/post tribulation rapture. Revelation is the same depiction, twice in places…
I know Jesus Christ saves. Just like the sign’s say. I think I am Abraham’s seed. Not to boast, but to say that God keeps calling me back. Even when I stumble or falter.
Wow!
From whether the ‘Taking up’ happens before, during or after the tribulation to debates about whether or not God loves Jews!
Come on guys ‘Love God’ ‘Love thy neighbour’ ‘Love your enemies’ that’s all we need to do here!
Stop filling up my inbox with all this other nonsense and get back to the matter in hand please 🙏
agreed we are to love OUR enemies, not love those who hate the Lord. Do you love satan? I do not,
King David a man after God’s heart hates them that hate the Lord.
Psalms 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
2 Chronicles Chapter 19: 1 And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem.
2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
Should we love, bless and help those who hate Jesus the Lord?
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
How about Satan? Love him too? I think not.
You desperately try to split apart those The Father sent his only son to unite to save his righteous family. Without the joining of righteous Jews to righteous Gentiles there would not be enough people to continue his family. The spite of satan, to try to destroy that which is righteous and clean.
Chaplain Bob Walker or whatever your real name is your task is to spread distrust and hatred between those two groups of people GOD HIMSELF joined, this indeed makes you a very dangerous entity. To directly attack the works of Christs Jesus, for which he gave his life, this does indeed make you a true anti-Christ.
The original advantage of the Jews
Paul the Jew
39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
Acts 21, 39
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3, 1-2 29-31
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Romans 11, 1-5 9-13
Through the grace of God righteous Gentiles (stranger and foreigners) taken into the family of God
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Ephesians 2, 11-19
1 For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the Lord for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
So you agree with the synagogue of satan claiming to be Jews that Jesus is the most evil vile anti-Semite who ever lived?
I have a problem with Judaism that claims Mary was a whore that had sex with demons and got pregnant with Jesus and that Jesus performed his miracles via magic and the power of satan. Seems that you agree with the Jews?
”The Jewish Talmud (Babylonian edition) Rabbis records other sins of “Jesus the Nazarene”:
”He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).”
”He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).”
”He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).” proof: https://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm
Jesus speaking to these Talmudic Pharisee Jews – King James Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
….because I tell you the truth….
….because I tell you the truth….
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be “christians”
@Loccie Wow this is still going on month’s later? Good thing I don’t care. Where is “The Truth Not Doctrine” these days?
Ha-ha-ha… Time to go read Genesis… Oooh, I’m feeling a little Job’y. Perhaps I’ll just fly though 1st and 2nd Peter. (on my magic carpet, I call eyes.)
Ain’t (Isn’t) reading great? Bob is acting crazier and crazier. Sounding more and more incoherent, as the weeks pass and he’ still harping the same trash. Easily refuted, by one line of scripture. But he’s going to put in 15 more, give them a twist and make something mildly biblical/pseudo-biblical.
Yeah quoting Jesus and the apostles is crazy to you antichrist Israeli trolls. Question: Who does the Bible alone say KILLED JESUS
A: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15 …even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, ….and they please not God, ….and they please not God, ….and they please not God, ….
Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews?
A: Act 4:12 – Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Matthew 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Why the new testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
‘ he who endures to the end will be saved ‘ – Matthew . There is no rapture and definitely no need for the ridiculous long winded answers on hear by individuals who quote scripture and never understood it !!! Is Matthew right or you , you delusional creature’s …
Andy is the sadducee fool who does not understand – there shall be a resurrection of the just and the unjust. 1 Corinthians 15:13 “But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:” My Christ has risen.
Mark 12:18 “Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,”
John 5:29 “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
John 11:25 “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”
Revelation 20:6
“Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
Roar! I’m a T-Rex. The vitriol! Attacks on a persona. Andy is Andy. A child of God. God desires all to be saved.
Philippians 2:1-2 “Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose.”
Bobby, bobby, me lad. You’re just plain wrong. “The Sadducees were a socio-religious sect of Jews active in Judea during the Second Temple period, from the second century BC through the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD…The group became extinct some time after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD.”
Tell us about brit milah or metzitzah b’peh where the talmudic rabbi sticks the babies penis in his mouth at circumcision to suck the blood. rabbi sticks the babies penis in his mouth at circumcision. Like we should listen to rabbis and jews who do this? This is real thing everyone look it up. maybe they trained the vatican priests? oh and guess what what kosher tribe owns the media
so you never hear about this sick practice. these want us to believe this tribe is the “chosen” people.
chosen for what is the real question.
But these are your chosen people I suppose
@jchr12 Yes. Thankfully it seems to be a minority. Lot’s of people disagree, without becoming bigots.
Unfortunately Christian’s see the apostasy, point it out. Those who are Biblically ignorant, (might) read a pile of scripture, half of it twisted to suit the “Christian Claiming” party.
Without God’s intervention on their heart. Many will gloss over and ignore the entire message because of the confusion/adulteration. With futile attempts by Christian’s to correct/make accurate.
I pray God opens eyes, gives patience and most of all discernment, to those who need it most.
Bobby! I know what you’re talking about and it’s a religious act, that I don’t agree with. Tarring with the same brush again?!
Yeah it’s pretty gross/pedo. Mucho no Bueno!
When I was born, it was standard procedure to circumcise. A Dr. did it shortly after birth. I’ve avoided “cheese” and other nasty genital issues. I know older men who had to have a circumcision because of various health issues. It’s not like African female/male circumcision traditions/ceremonies. I’m actually glad it’s done. Even if it caused psychological damage to my infant brain. I was back in Mother’s arms and teet’s within minutes.
They’re God’s chosen people. It says so in the Bible, so many times. You can dance around more. C’mon! Give me a nice river dance!
I don’t like the CCP (Chinese Gov. or policies) Tienanmen Square happened. Wither it was a colour revolution, or a natural one.
Are all Chinese Xenophobic, racist, bigots, exc.? Nope!
“The Vatican” ? Ha-ha! Read the book “In the closet of the Vatican.” 80% of bishops/priests admitted they are homosexual.
I don’t worry. Jesus Saves, In big NEON LETTERS. If I could “Touch the hem of His garment.”
@ Chaplain Bob Walker
I loved canned meat! Here is some HD river dancing. You remind me of the entire troupe. With less rhythm. Since you’re almost a branch in the breeze, blowing alone in the tundra. https://youtu.be/O53B0s_zao8?t=92 “How’s about a British jig and reel?” -The Clash, Straight to Hell, Combat Rock, 1982.
Completely unrelated to this video, but who remembers this time last year?
“Spittle Bugs” Toxic! Danger! Ahhh! It’s Spittle bug season again. Mum’s the word. I guess it’s safe now! People are so forgetful!
Hugo Talks 
Thus rapture is devils works
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Thank you for bravely stating your opinion I feel that you are correct 💯% ✝️💟💘
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This world is full of deception, as in the days of Noah.
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The Hegelian Dialect confuse the sheep, their plan works with their deeds and words.
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You start your video by rightly declaring that belief in the Rapture is not a salvation issue. Unfortunately, you then spend most time on delivering your belief that it is false. Why enflame the debate if you don’t believe it, especially when your analysis is incorrect ?
There are more than 50 Scriptures telling us about the Rapture, the only question – clearly expressed by Jesus – is that we don’t know when that will occur. Causing division in a matter that has no relevance in faith is not helpful in causing unbelievers to come to faith.
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Hugo, it’s not in the Bible in actual plain form BECAUSE IT HASN’T HAPPENED YET! Every example you gave about why we can believe in things written in the Bible is because they have already happened and been written down.
Prophecy is a work of faith and ‘faith is the hope of things unseen’.
Prophecy is something that sometimes needs to be worked out as displayed when King Herod asked the wise men of his time where the Messiah would be born. The scriptures were then used to foretell that He would be born in Bethlehem and hence: Herod gave the order to kill all the firstborn male babies up to the age of 2 in Bethlehem. An attempt to prevent the work of God to change mankind for the better.
In fact the very scripture that was used to foretell where the Christ was to be born was from the prophet Micah 5:2 and if read without spiritual eyes to see what it really means, could have been talking about ANY King or leader of Israel.
Think on this:
Enoch was taken, Elijah was taken, Jesus was taken.
Why is it not possible for a whole group of believers to be taken too?
We should “Be as little children” and believe like little children otherwise faith is in danger of being watered down.
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Jesus was not taken he died and then was resurrected and then ascended. Those other two were taken before they died.
As for it hasn’t happened yet so is not 8n the bible makes mockery of prophecy. Lots of stuff that hasn’t happened yet is foretold in prophecy and is in the bible.
No mention of the rapture in the early creeds of the church.
Such a huge event would surely get more ‘air’ time.
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Being like Little Children is correct, but having pastors/ ministers preaching lies is not correct.. There are many goats in the camp
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Also enoch account was removed, i wonder why…
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The Mark of the Beast is here already, yet many don’t see it.
It is the jab!
The Third Trumpet happened in 1986, yet many are still waiting for it to happen.
The Third Trumpet is called Wormwood. When you translate this to Russian and Ukrainian it means Chernobyl.
One third of the European waters turned bitter and many died.
The monument in Chernobyl is an Angel blowing a Trumpet.
The Second Trumpet is WW2.
One third of the ships perished in that war. Google It!
The First Trumpet was WW1.
One third of the grass and tree burned.
Google It!
The Fourth Trumpet was Kuwait.
For over a year one third of the time the sun, moon and stars were invisible.
To stop the fires they made a documentary called Bring Back the Sun.
Google It!
Revelation 19.20 states the First Beast (rev.13) and the False Prophet get thrown into the lake of fire for DECEIVING THE WHOLE WORLD WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!!
Revelation 20:1 states the Second Beast gets bound for 1000 years.
In Revelation 13 he CONTINUES/EXERCISETH what the First Beast has started. Namely the MotB and he adds the NO BUYING/SELLING law.
Those pre-tribbers and many post-tribbers are DECEIVED already.
For they wait for a rapture or till satan says: This is my MofB, take it and worship me.
Unfortunately the Bible mentions “Deceived” so many times, yet it is happening right now.
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666 might be ready to implement, but we are not there just yet. I can still buy and sell without a mark at this time.
Revelation 13:17 “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
the false prophet and the man of sin has not appeared so we are not there yet.
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Dear Chaplain Bob,
Yes you can still buy and sell now, for we’re still being run by the First Beast that started the MotB.
They’re making all currencies digital at this moment.
When the Second Beast takes full control no one may sell or buy anymore without the jab/digital health pass.
But 5.5 billion people already took the MotB.
No wonder only a remnant will be left when Jesus returns.
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Agreed and well digital currency has been in the works for decades. Those who trusted the medical community for their health instead of the LORD will be given their reward.
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Everyone mentioning Enoch and Elijah.
The Bible is plain. They went to God without dying.
2nd Kings 2:9-11 “Elisha said, “Please, let a double portion of your spirit be upon me.” He said, “You have asked a hard thing. Nevertheless, if you see me when I am taken from you, it shall be so for you; but if not, it shall not be so.” As they were going along and talking, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire and horses of fire which separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind to heaven.”
1st Kings 18:27 “And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.”
“Where is your god? On the toilet? Is he asleep?” Shazam! He had the Holy Spirit flowing through him. Calling fire from the sky.
He and Enoch are sometimes proposed as “The Two Witnesses” … Since they didn’t die. They we’re some of the most Holy people written of in the entire Bible.
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Malachi 4:5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:”
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I’m sorry but your question seems to have left out a glaringly obvious fact. I’m talking about a 7 year pre tribulation rapture, and how that is clearly not stated in the Bible, there may well be 50 scriptures clearly outlining a Rapture/Resurrection, but there are 0 clearly outlining a 7 year pre tribulation rapture.
This is made very clear in the video. The division is caused by teachers, scholars and believers who push around concepts that are not in scripture. This is corrupting scripture. I am merely readdressing that by pointing out what it actually says in scripture. And that says there will be a resurrection/rapture and it will be ‘immediately after’ the tribulation.
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The only debate should be whether the Rapture occurs before or after the Tribulation, or indeed mid Trib. The Rapture should not be confused with the resurrection of the saved; they are two separate events. Christ removes God’s Spirit from the earth, which allows Satan full control in the final 3.5 years, during which time the unbelievers remaining will have their final opportunity to repent – and literally lose their heads – or accept the Mark of The Beast.
To believe otherwise is to accept that most believers who are alive at that time, will be beheaded. Both Luke & Mark write about two working in fields, and two in bed where one each shall be taken. This shows the Rapture of believers leaving unbelievers during the last 3.5 years.
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I have also not believed in either a rapture or a 7 year tribulation. But now I am starting to think that maybe there could be a taking away (rapture) just NOT at the beginning of troubles but maybe after the mark is “injected” (like NOW) and the AC comes on the scene.
The supposed 7 years comes from Daniel 9:27 that has been [intentionally] misconstrued. This scripture seems to me to be where the separation of the “Jews” and the Gentiles comes from that the dispensationalists use to separate the Jews for the Gentiles at the end. Daniel 9 clearly shows that God gave Daniel’s people, the Jews, 70 weeks to put an end to their transgressions (i.e., their sinful ways). One week of the 70 weeks spoken of in Daniel 9 has been [falsely] interpreted as happening during the “end times” when the scriptures does NOT say that. Therefore, “everyone” takes that last week (the 70th week) and throws it 2000 years into the future making those 70 weeks into 2070 weeks.
I agree with Hugo that the scriptures does show that God’s people will be “gathered” at the last trump when Jesus comes. But there really are a couple scriptures that seems to say something different. They are:
KJV – Luke 21:36 “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”
How does one “escape all these things” if one is here on earth facing beheading for NOT following the AC new world order? Maybe this speaks of God somehow protecting his people but if that is true then why would his people be “overcome” by the AC and beheaded?
The other one is in Zechariah 14:1-5 KJV –
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
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5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
How could God come WITH his saints if all the saints are still on the earth?
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Oh dear Jane, I really don’t think that you understood what I was trying to portray in the above comment. I wasn’t making a mockery of prophecy at all, quite the opposite in fact.
As for whether Jesus was taken : Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
King James Version by the way.
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Amen,, yes, you are correct…
All i see still is, there are many goats and hardly any sheep..
I like you Hugo & only a few others on here, are sheep 🐑, we have a Shepherd, he is our Father & his name is Jesus Christ. (Yesuha) ….. Its a shame to see so many goats that still think they are correct,, as you say Hugo, go & look in the kjv… The manual for life, the Bible…
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Sorry Hugo, I’m not quite sure whether you are responding to jchr12 here or myself? To be honest, I had only gotten about 3-4 minutes into your video and found myself shouting ‘That’s because it hasn’t happened yet!’ I should have waited until the end because now it seems that you believe that there WILL be a rapture (personally I prefer the term ‘taking up’) ??? but you’re questioning the seven years???
I also question the seven years but always when reading Revelation, my spirit seems to quicken when I read chapter 12 which appears to mention a 3 and a half year period TWICE (but the second time could be a repeat of the first just from a different viewpoint).
Once in verse 6 “And the woman fled into the wilderness where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
And again in verse 14 “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, times and half a time from the face of the serpent.
(Time : 1 year
Times : 2 years
Half a time : 1/2 year = 3 and a half years) I believe. This terminology is also used in Daniel chapter 12 by the One that spoke to him, from verse 7 “And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth forever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished”. (This is what’s happening in Revelation 12 unless I’m mistaken)
And again in verse 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days” (okay this is slightly longer than 1260 days but in my eyes is close enough).
I realise that this does not explain the alleged seven year period but hopefully helps us to understand that a three and a half year period definitely is scriptural.
If these chapters (Daniel 12 and Revelation 12) are used together we can build a slightly clearer picture on what the future holds for us believers but some of the terminology is symbolic. For example the woman in Revelation 12, I believe, represents the church/bride of Christ (note that this is not the same woman who is clothed in scarlet and purple who rides on the back of the beast, which you’ve already described as the false church). The daily sacrifice represents the praise and thanksgiving of the people of God, that will be silenced due to the setting up of the Abomination of Desolation.
What is the abomination of desolation?
Possibly and very probably the mark of the beast itself ! I take this from the words of Jesus : Matthew 24 verse 15 ‘When ye therefore shall see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand,) 16 Then let them that be in Ju-daé-a flee into the mountains:’
It could be interpreted that ‘stand in the holy place’ is referring to the Temple but we could take that one step further and suggest that the temple that Jesus is referring to here could actually represent the human body which according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 ‘Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.’ amongst other scriptures IS a holy place.
Revelation 13:16 ‘And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:’ Does this not portray a desecration of the temple?
I realise that I have digressed from the seven year period question somewhat but I believe that it is important for us all to see what the symbology within the scriptures means in order for us to gain a better understanding. Jesus spoke in parables and parables are not clear to understand but not impossible to work out if we have the ears to hear and eyes to see.
I’m not saying that I’ve got this 100% correct by the way, but I believe that The Holy Spirit has been showing me this over the last few years and believe that it is time to share. Hopefully The Holy Spirit has been saying the same thing to other believers too? I could say a whole lot more on the subject but don’t want to go on for too long.
Just note that Jesus specifically pointed us (those that wish to know more about the end times) towards the prophet Daniel. If we read the book of Daniel then the symbology becomes clearer.
Much love to you Hugo, keep up the good work.
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Dear SEEKER,
The scripture about being worthy and stand in front of the Lord refers to the DAY of His Wrath, the very last day.
The Vials, Gods Wrath, last for years.
They are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS.
We already see the first jabbed people with horrific sores. Waters are already turning into blood. The Euphrates is drying up.
The Seals, Trumpets and Vials run parallel. They overlap each other.
Gods Chosen ones will not be struck with Gods plagues, but they will witness it.
When Jesus returns after the 7 years of Tribulation, the Last Trumpet will sound. Every eye will see Him coming in the sky with the 144,000 saints. (so yes there is/was a “rapture” of the male virgins from Israel to fight this war with Jesus)
Jesus will then first resurrect the dead, the surviving remnant will be caught up moments later.
Then the sun turns black, the moon red, a great earthquake will bring down mountains and move islands. Hail stones will fall, brimstone and fire falls from the sky and the wicked will be slaughtered.
It is this DAY you want to be counted worthy of.
When this DAY is over the Brides Meal will take place.
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To HEIDI,
you wrote -> “The scripture about being worthy and stand in front of the Lord refers to the DAY of His Wrath, the very last day.”
Let me first remind you of the passage I quoted -> Luke 21:36 “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.””
Jesus says that we should pray always that we may escape all these things that SHALL come to pass. Jesus was clearly talking about the great tribulation “things”.
Then Luke writes “, and to stand before”… A comma [,] followed by the word “and” means an independent clause follows the word “and”. So the “and stand before” is a separate independent clause [thought] from the praying to escape all the great tribulation things.
One has to be a “wise virgin” with oil in her lamp or good servant to qualify to be Christ’s bride and be “snatched away” whenever that snatching happens. Or at least that is how I interpret the Bible.
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Dear SEEKER,
May I suggest to study the translation, Strongs.
For in my language Jesus says: (google translation)
36 Therefore be ever on your guard, always praying that you may come safely through the terrors to come, and that afterwards you may be with Me, the Son of Man.
So it’s not escaping by rapture. But to stay safe till Jesus returns.
Isn’t that what He prayed for in John 17
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil
Even though there will be Great Tribulation, not everyone on earth will experience it (or the same way)
I for instance have nobody to truly cry for. My whole family and past friends are atheist and jabbed. They are lost souls. I’ve already distanced myself from them. They think I belong to a sect/cult for reading the Bible.
For myself, I don’t fear death. 29 Years ago I was told I had 5 years left. Of course that instant I cried. But within an hour I was in peace with the idea. And I didn’t even know God then.
I’m very grateful He spared me so I got to know Him.
I’m waiting for my heavenly family. Nothing here on earth can effect me no more.
In the mean time I continue to plant trees and veggies as if there are still many years to come.
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Heidi
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I think translation is the major reason that most conflicts in scripture exist. If your translation is correct (I have not yet learned how to use a concordance I am a new believer) then that passage that to me means a “rapture”, may very well not mean that at all.
As to your other thoughts, I am on the same page. I have lost my family and most friends over the years for all my “truth bombs” that have made them all think I am a lunatic or something so I am pretty much a loner. Most my lost family and previous friends I am certain took the MotB and are destined for the lake of fire, so no loss there for me anyhow.
I too do not fear death at all, in fact on most days I would welcome it. My motive for trying to figure out the rapture has nothing at all to do with a fear of death and is based on two things. 1) I am a problem solver, a curious person which is why I seek truth and have done so for over 30 years. 2) it is not death I fear or beheading it is all the possibly many months or years that I am going to have to try to survive without food, shelter, or community. THAT is my fear. Once the digital money and digital immunity passes come in I am, as most here, going to be screwed as I/we will not be able to buy or sell. I do not believe that they will seek us out to kill us, they will just allow “nature” to take its course as we slowly die of cold and starvation. Well that at least are my thoughts.
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Dear SEEKER,
Would you like to join my lonely life in Costa Rica?
I could use a brother/sister hand on my 1 acre farm.
At least you wouldn’t die of cold nor hunger till they lock us up.
I’m pretty much prepared to last an off-grid life for years to come.
We could build you a private place.
email: heidi2mexico@yahoo.co.uk
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Yeshua tells us the season and what to look for. The only thing we don’t know is the day and the hour. Read Mathew 24 where He tells us WHEN we are caught up. This is after the great tribulation and on the day of His coming. He sends his angels to gather up the elect from the 4 corners of the earth. This is NOT before His second coming. How so many lukewarm Christians have this wrong is mind boggling.
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Dear Seeker,
You say “I am, as most on here, going to be screwed as I/we will not be able to buy or sell.”
Can I comfort you and encourage your faith by asking you to read Matthew chapter 6 verses 25-26?
And believe….
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If you read that verse again, you will see that the KJV says Jesus gathers the elect from the 4 corners of heaven, not earth! When I saw that it changed things for me. I believe that verse is no longer a rapture verse, and that the saints are already in heaven when this takes place. I do agree it’s clear that Jesus doesn’t return until AFTER the triblulation.
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False prophecies have consequences – sadly most pastors work for the enemy and teach the pre trib lie so the sheep’s faith is ruined when they find they might have to die for Christ who died for them. Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
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The last Trump is the sounding for the final blow for Satan & his minions. It is an error to believe that those who died in faith in 6000 years since Creation, and before the Tribulation were the only ones spared the horrors of the last 3.5 years. That means you believe in a cruel God not of Scripture.
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Tell us about the MILLIONS OF MURDERED CHRISTIANS UNDER COMMUNISM in the last 100 years and the millions before that. tell us about the 11 of the 12 apostles who were killed for the faith. So you are too good that the Lord would let you die for the faith you say.
I notice you only give your OPINION and never cite any scriptures that prove me wrong. So there is more than one last trump – wow
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Understanding the Tribulation would answer that question for you.
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Dear jchr12,
Billions of Christians have experienced Tribulation.
They were tortured, murdered, starved experienced wars, slavery, you name it.
But only this Last Generation that has to experience Great Tribulation will get to live on a peaceful earth for 1000 years. For it will be the Greatest Tribulation ever in history.
The rest of the faithful ones that died during those 6000 years will sleep for another 1000 years as is written.
How can one call God cruel when He sent His Son to earth, knowing how His life would end?
Jesus was pure and innocent. Yet He was willing to die for us, so our sins could be forgiven.
So be strong, have faith, endure the difficult years and know the reward will be splendid.
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WOW Heidi amen a sister soldier for Christ. you go girl
Psalms 9:13 – Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death:
Mat 16:21 – From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Luk 24:46 – And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer,
and to rise from the dead the third day:
Act 3:18 – But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets,
that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Act 5:41 – And they departed from the presence of the council,
rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
Rom 8:17 – And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him,
that we may be also glorified together.
2 Timothy 3:12 – Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Act 26:23 – That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead,
and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Act 9:16 – For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.
Rom 8:18 – For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory
which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:17 – And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Phl 3:8 – Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:
for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
1 Thess 2:14 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus:
for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
Heb 2:9 – But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,
crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Heb 2:10 – For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory,
to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
James 5:10 – Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord,
for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
1 Pe 1:11 – Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Pe 2:21 – For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
1 Peter 3:18 – For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God,
being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Pe 4:13 – But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1 Pe 3:14 – But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror,
neither be troubled;
1 Peter 4:1 – Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind:
for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1 Peter 5:10 – But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
2 Tim 2:12 – If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
1 Thess 3:4 – For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation;
even as it came to pass, and ye know.
2 Cor 1:6 – And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation,
which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer:
or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
1 Cor 10:13 – There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful,
who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able;
but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Rev 2:10 – Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison,
that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
1 Peter 5:10 – But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus,
after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
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Indeed Christians have suffered & many will continue to do so. That doesn’t mean Christians will experience the Tribulation, which will be far worse than anything previously seen. In my view Christ emphatically told us they wouldn’t, and some Scriptures have been evidenced on this forum in support of this view.
However, the subject remains in debate & won’t here be resolved as both the Rapture & its timing are unclear.
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Revelation 12:17 “And the dragon was wroth (angry) with the woman (church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Jews do not have the testimony of Christ.
Revelation 20:2 “And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,”
the wrath of the Dragon satan is not the wrath of God.
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Dear jchr12,
Revelation 12 happened on September 23rd 2017.
The woman’s seed, Christians, were protected till March 23 2021.
That is when the 7 years Tribulation started.
The current occupiers of Israel are NOT Gods Chosen ones.
They stole the identity of the Tribe of Judah.
They belong to the synagogue of satan.
Research Khazarian jews and why they’ve been prosecuted for centuries.
They sacrifice babies, lie, steal, murder and create wars.
God’s Children of Jacob/Israel have been scattered worldwide. Most likely many are Christian already.
Romans 11 shows we’re all GRAFTED into ONE TREE.
It also states that IF there would be a preference, it would be to the original Branches of Israel.
So who are we wild olive branches expecting to escape Tribulation?!!!
The JAB is the MotB.
Autumn 2024 the NO Buying/Selling will be added by the AC.
Till then the First Beast is in control. It will be thrown into the lake of fire for DECEIVING the whole world with the MotB. Revelation 19:20
The Second Beast aka old serpent, satan gets bound for 1000 years, Revelation 20:1
Even if you don’t believe me now, keep your body clean and pure.
Don’t put any sorcery aka pharmaceuticals in it.
For as in the days of Noah God destroyed all flesh for being corrupted with the seed of the fallen angels.
God this time will destroy all flesh for being corrupted with nano technology.
There is nothing new under the sun.
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Well, there are plenty of crackpots out there, and they come in all colours, all faiths & doctrines. The evil perpetrated in this world is staggeringly awful, and is not limited to some Jews any more than those professing to be Christians.
The reformation of Israel, exactly as prophesised In the Book of Daniel – and some claim to the day – is proof that God hasn’t rejected the Jews. He hasn’t rejected and won’t reject anyone, and neither should we. The unsaved condemn themselves by not accepting Christ.
So far as the Tribulation having already started, I don’t support that argument. The Mark of the Beast will not present itself as anything other than what it is. So it won’t be a vaccine purportedly to keep us well, but will be something we will know is dangerous, evil & will steal our salvation.
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jchr12 wrote “So it won’t be a vaccine purportedly to keep us well, but will be something we will know is dangerous, evil & will steal our salvation.”.
HOW MANY TIMES did Jesus say watch and be not deceived and let no man deceive you.
The jab was never purportedly to keep anyone well and a superficial understanding of what was going on proved that to be a complete and total deception. The jab IS the MOTB. If you took it, I am sorry for you. Most on the forum I suspect did not take it.
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The prophecy specifically states that without the Mark we will not be able to buy or sell. That seems to exclude the vaccine.
I refused the vaccine because it was inadequately tested, and completely unnecessary. Sadly many fell for the lies.
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Dear jchr12,
Can you please read slowly, so you might understand.
It IS the FIRST BEAST who will be thrown into the lake of fire for DECEIVING the whole world with the MARK OF THE BEAST.
REVELATION 19:20 SAYS SO!!!
It IS the SECOND BEAST that introduces the NO BUYING/SELLING part. He gets bound for 1000 years,
REVELATION 20:1 SAYS SO!!!
DON’T YOU SEE THAT THE SECOND BEAST IS CONTINUING AND ADDING TO THE MARK OF THE BEAST, WHICH WAS STARTED BY THE FIRST BEAST????
Once the Second Beast takes full control, no one will be able to buy or sell without being jabbed.
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I don’t agree with your analysis. There are indeed two Beasts, but that is not the debate. You state that the MotB are current vaccines. This cannot be the case because humanity were encouraged to accept them as beneficial to their health. The Mark (which arguably may be a vaccine with an implant) will be a known and deliberate attempt to subjugate people’s who, without it, may not be able to buy nor sell.
Therefore, your inference that people may have been tricked into accepting the Mark unknowingly in not Scriptural because it has to be ‘intentionally accepted’. It is bowing to the Beast and submitting themselves to the Beast, and that cannot happen accidentally.
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Dear jchr12,
You expect satan to tell the truth about the MotB?
Now you make me laugh.
The word DECEIVE appears 67 times in the Bible.
Do you know what the word DECEIVE means?
Apparently not.
Dream on. We’ll all know the truth when we stand in front of God.
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Your analysis of the Mark is not a salvation issue. The acceptance of the Mark known to represent subservience to the Beast is. Therefore, it will not be possible to mistakenly accept the Mark.
God is clear: Rev 13:15 & 16 says, “… the image of the beast … cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.
Importantly, it is known that refusing the Mark will result in one’s death. This means that it cannot be mistakenly accepted. Even if you are correct that the vaccine is some precursor to the Mark – I don’t believe that – something yet needs to be added to it to fulfil verse 16, i.e., in one’s right hand or forehead to prevent future purchases.
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jchr12,
Heidi is correct. The mark was offered, the people who put their “lives” about everything else ran out and got it. Remember, “those who seek to keep their lives will lose it”. They should have known better. Anyone with half a brain who was not “deceived” could clearly see there was no “pandemic”. Most those who took it did so because they put their jobs, concerts, vacations, etc. above their spirit/soul (in their actions, i.e. their right hand that does actions). Those others took it for fear of death (their thoughts, i.e., their foreheads).
Anyhow who thinks it will be easily identified is completely deceived and will be thrown in the lake of fire. Do you honestly believe the “beast” is going to come out on TV I guess and say “take this chip in your right hand or you will not be able to buy or sell”?? Revelations is prophecy and prophecy is not literal it is spiritual.
Too many people think that literally two men are going to go around preaching the gospel wearing sackcloth and be killed and their rotting corpse’s rotting on the street for three days. No way will that ever happen. It is not literal, but spiritual. You must be lead by the holy spirit and have eyes to see in order to see what is actually happening. Too much Hollyweird influence. Everyone (well not everyone) is expecting a big show, and obvious stuff that will be obvious to everyone. That will never happen.
Like Heidi said, 67 times in the good book is deceived mentioned. Also Revelations says that “all the world was deceived” by sorcery (pharmakia). What does that mean to you??
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Satan won’t tell us the truth, but God has. I’m afraid you are reading far more into vaccines than is the case at present. Best keep alert for the real thing, and much more has yet to occur before that – although that might happen quite quickly.
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So if there is 50 or so verses, in the 1611 kjv or just the Kjv..
What are they…??
Unfortunately there are many goats in the flock & not many sheep 🐑, me and hugo are sheep, by the way, Hugo is speaking the truth in Love. (there is a difference)
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Well, I too am a sheep. To suggest that belief in pre Trib Rapture makes one a goat is to completely misunderstand Scripture & salvation.
I have posted many Scriptures on this forum supporting this belief. Please check them out, or the plethora of good website debates.
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Feel free to post 2 plain and clear scriptures that show the resurrection is PRIOR to the arrival of the man of sin and the tribulation.
I say you are a liar and can not do it. In In Revelation 20:4-6 there are only 2 Resurrections spoken of:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the SECOND DEATH hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev. 20:4-5, John sees the souls of Saints who were BEHEADED for refusing the Mark of the Antichrist during the Great Tribulation. John writes that they will rise and reign with Christ for 1000 years and that this is the FIRST RESURRECTION! If according to John, the beheaded rise in the FIRST resurrection and Paul said those who are alive and remain are not caught up until AFTER the dead in Christ are resurrected, then this means the catching up or rapture takes place AFTER tribulation!
1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the end of the tribulation.
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How do we know the “man of sin” has not ALREADY been revealed? Does anyone really think that the mainstream media is going to go on air, the world over, and say …
“Today we report that ???? has been identified as the Biblical Anti-Christ!”
Lol not likely. The “reveal” will not be “seen” and understood by believers until well after the fact, I think. But time will tell (if we are still here).
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Has the man of sin appeared?
2 Thessalonians Chapter 2: 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be REVEALED revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS signs and lying WONDERS wonders, (MIRACLES)
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Revelation Chapter 13: 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great WONDERS wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, (when has this happened?)
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
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SALVATION ISSUE.
Revelation 14:11
“And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
If you think you won’t have to face the Mark of the Beast you will take it and suffer forever.
If a person is wrong about expecting to go through tribulation they get a pleasant surprise. You should prepare emotionally / spiritually / physically to face tribulation.
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Belief in the Rapture, whether pre, mid or post Trib is not a salvation issue, so the debate is largely moot.
However, while it is well debated with pointers in 3 directions, Scripturally, it is clear it will be mid Trib.
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Ahh Mark a true soldier for Christ. Yep the pre trib rapture lie has consequences. Satan pulled the YOU MISSED THE RAPTURE THING IN THE DAYS OF PAUL. 2 Timothy 2:18 “Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.” I suspect this will be used again or maybe to discredit Jesus as a FALSE MESSIAH by the enemy?
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Who are the real children of Israel or sons of Abraham?
“They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.”
John 8:39
“Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”
Luke 3:8
As for rapture and tribulation talk – it’s all hogwash in my opinion.
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The Rapture is not a deciding matter of Salvation for the believer , therefore, we do not need to let it cause contention amongst the body of Christ. We shall all find out soon enough who was believing right about the rapture of the Church (true Church = those who are born again in Christ Jesus) but whatever may come ,we are called to be set apart for the Lord, occupying the time until He comes. Having Him as our first love … not this world or the things of this world. If we are called to suffer for the Faith , even to be Martyred then His grace will be sufficient, if we are called to depart to be with Him we must go without looking back in longing for anything we have left behind on this Earth, we must depend on Him and not upon our own natural abilities. It is a matter of the heart and a matter of sanctification a work of the Holy Spirit in our hearts that set us apart for the Lord, we must decrease that He may increase.
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”— 1 John 2:15-17
Matthew 10:37-38 KJV
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
If Jesus is our first love in our life, we will have been prepared by the Holy Spirit .
People are afraid because they have not had that struggle in the secret place where they come to the full surrender of their will to Gods will no matter what may come .
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It is an important matter, because if it is a concept created to cause confusion and deception, then one should be wary of those in positions of trust that are still spreading such false ideas that are clearly not outlined in the bible.
It is corrupting scripture.
Looking at the response I have had to these videos I believe this is a massive Psy-op that is employed by the New World Order, And it has been for a long long time going back decades, primarily, back in the past, it was used to give preachers an excuse in church to NOT teach the Book of Revelation or anything about the end times, as there excuse would be ‘why teach it, if you are not going to be here for it’. Which of course then leaves Christians in the dark. And right now its still being pushed for other nefarious reasons, explained in the first video – https://hugotalks.com/2023/07/09/rapture-ready-hugo-talks/
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Right on Hugo! Boy was I surprised when you got saved. It’s a harbinger of the great revival that is coming.
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Good comment Myrtle,
We should not be debating this to the point of argument. It’s unhealthy and unnecessary.
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Only the truth will set you free….
If we have been taught wrong, then we have believed a lie… If the lie has been preached from a pulpit, then its time to rid the earth of the lies from the church…
Its back to the story about the sheep 🐑 & the goats
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The Holy Spirit alone leads us into all truth. The theologies of men lead to error, confusion, false hope and puffing up of corrupt minds.
When the Lord said something and allowed it to be recorded in the scriptures, then He will do just as He said. His words are simple because He speaks as to little children.
The scriptures require pure hearts, not complex minds to be understood. They are words of Life, not riddles.
If it isn’t plainly and simply stated, then it is not there!
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Sorry to point out : Jesus spoke in riddles/parables so that only those with eyes to see and ears to hear would understand.
There are still matters to be understood. Jesus give us ears to hears and eyes to see.
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Threats of violence? Wow. Those people threatening you sure are not righteous anyway. They think themselves they are wheat but really belong to the tares, which are burnt up. Modern pharesees.
God bless Hugo and all
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Hugo you’re still wet behind the ears, and really so am I in terms of a Christian walk. There’s deception everywhere within the church, and the trib timing is far from the greatest- but we should be cautious in that great care should be taken not to discourage new believers. Or we just become an instrument for the enemy.
God is sovereign and supersedes corruption to bring His children to Himself.
May God bless and guide you for His purposes. 🙏
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Oops there are two Jane’s! I’ll be Jane T from now on.
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Are you a Sheep 🐑 or a goat 🐐 Jane T…
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but we should be cautious in that great care should be taken not to discourage new believers. Or we just become an instrument for the enemy.
If we have been told a lie, such as pre trib or such, then its Better to speak the truth in Love, not hide it from new believers… Hugo is correct..
Again its about Sheep 🐑 & goats… Are you a Sheep Jane, or a goat 🐐…
If your a Sheep, you would be speaking the truth to New believers… Not lies…
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Jesus discouraged the ruler who asked, “what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus said, “sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.”
Luke 18:18-26
The ruler chose wealth and comfort instead of eternal life. That is exactly the choice that will happen with the Mark of the Beast during before the 1st Ressurection before the “rapture”. Most people will choose to buy & sell.
Jesus discouraged everyone by saying, “Take up your cross”
Matthew 16:24, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23
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Yep dispensationalism is a false doctrine!:
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You ask around the six minute mark why would be we looking for signs if we had already been raptured? but you are assuming the only signs are in the Tribulation. Unless we are in the Tribulation now then what have you been warning us against for the last 3 years? The signs are with us and are increasing all the time – 1948 and the reinstatement of the nation of Israel, rumours of wars and famines etc not to mention the ushering in of the cashless society. Also, to equate dispensationalism with replacement theology is disingenuous. As a dispensationalist I recognise that God has a plan for Israel who will come to Christ during the Tribulation (they are the elect in the context you argued towards the end of your video). A couple of thoughts for you: in your first video you quoted the scripture about not knowing the day or the hour; if you agree there is a rapture but it is not pre-trib then the timescale of the Tribulation enables one to work out the day and hour of the rapture! Also, if all the believers are changed at the end of the tribulation (ie, get their resurrection bodies) how are children born in the millennium kingdom (some of whom later go on to follow Satan in his final rebellion)? A pre-tribulation rapture explains both these issues. Finally what is the point in watching therefore if we can be certain we have at least 7 years before Christ’s return. In brotherly love.
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As the WWII bomber pilots used to say, “If you are catching a lot of flak, you must be over the target!”
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What do I think? I’m a pre-tribulation rapture believer. I was unsure for 12 years but I heard a message on Jesus as Bridegroom which settled it and established it in my heart. You can find out more by watching the film ‘Before the Wrath’. Regardless, I am willing to go through whatever I must go though until I see Him face to face. Maranatha.
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@Gill C
Thank you for that recommendation. I just watched it and I have to agree it makes a pretty good case for a rapture. But it does NOT answer the question of when. Maybe we are not told when because only the father knows the day and hour. But I think that video (and maybe the Bible if we read it “correctly”) makes the case that the when could be anytime before the wrath of God. I personally believe the snatching away (rapture) will happen after the mark of the beast is injected (like now) but before the wrath of God that we do not know when that will come.
As far as the wedding ceremony that video states that the specific ceremony was a tradition only in Galilee. But why do you think that is? Could it be that the father, through his holy spirit, lead the Galileeans to follow that tradition as a way to fore shadow what was to come? I think so!
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this is what I tend to think as well – as soon as we understand how the bridegroom would go away to prepare the house, and then come “like a thief in the night” to steal away the bride, also the 7 days of feasting, etc… it makes total sense.
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Yes, the love of God is so beautiful and all His ways are perfect, wise and true. Jesus fulfilled all of the betrothal traditions. The scripture said He is the Bridegroom so why would He not fulfil the completion of the marriage covenant. I’m super excited – one day my Prince will come. We are loved deeply by Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit (the Friend of the Bride) – our Wonderful God!
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Is an interpretation of the Bible that is promoted with Bestseller novels, Hollywood movies and even stickers on cars reliable?
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Matthew 24:29-31:
“29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
I’m posting this scripture for the second time. Can someone explain to me what exactly is not clear in there? Seriously Jesus said here that after tribulation he will send his angels to gather his elect. Obviously Paul was reffering to that scripture in 1 Tes. 4:16. I really don’t understand what’s unclear here…
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Good point Zenon. I think, as stated by someone else in the comments in the part 1 video, that there is a difference in the tribulation and God’s wrath. Tribulation first and the wrath of God on the unrighteous in the very end. We will all go through tribulation.
God bless
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Why I still believe in a the pre-trib rapture,
below are are some verses regarding the pre-trib rapture and the rapture of the dead when Christ claims His kingdom, and the pre-trib rapture when Christ claims His Church. from King James Bible only.
one event is letting you know when, whilst the other is a mystery, Revelation 11:15 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16
two trumpets here, both different, 15And the seventh angel sounded; and the the other trumpet is, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God,
Jesus is talking in one, and in the other an Angel is declaring the Kingdom of the Lord.
I understand it to be, Jesus is saying you will not know the date and time when I call my bride groom, the other is an Angel announcing the kingdom of Jesus Christ.
It`s the Trump of GOD, not the Last trump, or 7th trump in revelations.? verses and chapters taken from the King James Bible
In Revelations and in Mathew the Trumpets are sounded by Angels, yet in 1 Thessalonians its God that sounds the Trump with a voice of an Archangel. this is why I still believe in a rapture.
Matthew 24:40
37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Romans 8:39
36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Colossians 3:4
3For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Revelation 11:15
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Matthew 24:31
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
1 Thessalonians 4:16
13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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Not one verse you mentioned clearly proves a rapture before the last 7 years of tribulation!:
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Graham – hey deceiver how many LAST TRUMPS are there? Oh that is right you say they are not the same without proving a thing.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
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The disrespect in this forum is saddening, and comes mostly from those professing to be Christians.
Christians differ, but when it descends into name calling the only one who wins is Satan as they drive away unbelievers.
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I call out those who are deceived or deceivers – show me where I am in error and I shall apologize publicly. Since you can not prove me wrong as all you can do is complain about things like disrespect. Remember God hates and destroys false prophets so make sure you are right before you lead others astray.
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There you go again. Get off your self important horse.
If you would read the many comments in this forum, and elsewhere, that explain why the Tribulation Rapture is Biblically sound, rather than make derogatory comments about others, you’d understand.
The Rapture is certain; the only question is exactly when.
Best though to save your concern as it’s not a salvation issue.
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I smell an Israeli troll – WHEN IS THE RAPTURE / RESURRECTION? BIBLE PROOF
In Revelation 20:4-6 the last book of the Bible there are only 2 more FUTURE Resurrections (Raptures) spoken of: (after the 2 witnesses appear)
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION. or rapture
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the SECOND DEATH hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
In the above scriptures, these are the Martyrs. John said “this is the first resurrection.” John didn’t say this is the “second phase of the first resurrection,” as pre-tribbers claim.
If this is the FIRST resurrection, can there be a resurrection before this one? Of course not, unless you want to ADD to the bible which is forbidden!
The First Resurrection is of the dead in Christ and the Second is after 1000 years. Paul wrote that the Dead in Christ MUST rise FIRST, THEN we who are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 …and the dead in Christ shall RISE FIRST
17 THEN we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them…
In Rev. 20:4-5, John sees the souls of Saints who were BEHEADED for refusing the Mark of the Beast during the Great Tribulation. John writes that they will rise and reign with Christ for 1000 years and that this is the FIRST RESURRECTION!
If according to John, the beheaded rise in the FIRST resurrection and Paul said those who are alive and remain are not caught up until AFTER the dead in Christ are resurrected, then this means the catching up or rapture takes place AFTER tribulation!
Now compare the above with 1 CORINTHIANS 15:20-23:
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first-fruits of those who slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; AFTERWARDS THOSE WHO ARE CHRIST’S AT HIS COMING.
Notice only one resurrection of the dead in Christ is mentioned here! Which, according to Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 must take place BEFORE we who are alive and remain are “caught up” with them!
When did Jesus say the dead in Christ would be resurrected?
John 6:39-40: Jesus said, “This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up ON THE LAST DAY.
John 6:44: Jesus said, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up ON THE LAST DAY.”
Is the LAST DAY the thousand year reign of Christ?
I believe so….then it is eternity and time is counted no more
So if Jesus himself said the dead in Christ will be raised on the LAST DAY, and Paul said we who are alive and remain will not be caught up (raptured) until AFTER the dead are raised, then where does secret pre-trib rapture fit in?
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
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“Israeli troll.” Is the reason why I shan’t discuss with you. But I shall leave you this to consider:
In Luke 21:34–36, Jesus said this, speaking to His own followers:
“But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Jesus is clearly talking about the tribulation, and what does He say to His people? “Pray … that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things … and to stand before the Son of Man.” I would say that Jesus is speaking here of the rapture, and it seems obvious that it is a pre-tribulational rapture. We are to pray that we may be able to escape these things.
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I notice you can not and will not refute not one single passage of scripture I posted. Because you can not. Yes people there is a “HASBARA PROJECT” where the Israeli government (paid for with US foreign aid money) discredit all things pointing to Christ. Look it up.
So they call you hateful so they can bow out of being proven wrong.
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Any person reading your comments & my replies will see my rebuttal and proofs of my mid-Trib belief.
Unfortunately, they will also see your nasty, unnecessary & slanderous comments to another Christian.
Now, do please stop replying, you’re showing yourself to be a bigot.
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Tell us about brit milah or metzitzah b’peh where the talmudic rabbi sticks the babies penis in his mouth at circumcision to suck the blood. Like we should listen to rabbis and jews who do this? This is real thing everyone look it up. maybe they trained the vatican priests?
oh and guess what what kosher tribe owns the media so you never hear about this sick practice.
these want us to believe this tribe is the “chosen” people. chosen for what is the real question.
telling the truth makes me an antisemitic bigot
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😌I agree with Hugo about how there is NO RAPTURE. i don’t understand why anyone who claims to be a Christian would EVER make “threats of violence”… So it just shows you how FAR from Christ that person really is.
Jesus is NOT Coming TWICE. He is arriving ONCE just as HOLY SCRIPTURE indicates.
I sympathize with how scary it might become, but as TRUE CHRISTIANS WE must be FAITHFUL to God the Father’s / Christ’s HOLY WILL, and endure until the END… Then We will all be safe & at Peace in His Holy Kingdom.
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At the time I viewed the comments, I saw no threats of violence.
What I see here, however, is Hugo attempting to link those who believe in our Lord protecting His children (in a time when the devil is given full reign over the Earth) to the idea that these very same children would be given to violent threats. This false association is the sort of thing Hugo would have pointed out and decried in the past. Now, it would seem, he is a partaker of this tactic.
BTW, many so-called “Christians” have engaged in evil acts in the name of our Lord, whether it was in the past or today. Clearly, they and their actions are not inspired by Christ. they do not represent true Christians.
Getting back to the presentation, it’s hypocritical for Hugo to claim that he wants to avoid division within Christian camps while subsequently promoting it through this video. He has brought forth many good ideas but, whether intentionally or not, he has created a band of sycophantic followers. I follow Christ, not any man.
Luke tells us we are not appointed to wrath. It is at the 6th seal that wrath is both declared and acknowledged. Read Revelation 6. You can’t unsee it. Afterward follows the congregation of many in Heaven (the rapture), which John questions, and thereafter much upheaval, including the Mark of the Beast. No, the seals, bowls, and trumps do not run parallel to one another. The last trump itself is reference to the Feast of Trumpets, occurring at the time no man knows the day or the hour.
I submit that if you cannot discern these things now that they’ve been made plain, there is a reason you remain blinded.
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Very good. As Christians I don’t understand why some get so agitated over uncertain Rapture timings, or any Scriptural discussion.
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I think the only thing this debate shows is the refusal any to be influenced away from their preconceived opinions. This forum is used only by those wishing to express their opinion – yes me too – and Hugo, and of course, this debate has been raging since Jesus warned us. Perhaps the uncertainty of when was deliberately designed by God to ensure continuing debate?
So Hugo, no it is not an important debate, and absolutely nothing to do with salvation. Whether we believe we are to be Raptured before, during or after the Tribulation, is irrelevant to being saved. But we should continue to be “Looking up for our redemption draws near.”
I’m not sure how near as the abomination of desolation has yet to occur, but when we see that, hold on tight !
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Matthew 27:52 “And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,”
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The prophecy in Daniel 9 applies to Jesus!
Daniel 9:24-27 predicts exactly when Jesus would appear, when he would die for mankind and when the message of the Kingdom of God would go out to the whole world.
“Know therefore and vnderstand, that from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes; and threescore and two weekes, the street shall be built againe, and the wall, euen in troublous times.”
– Daniel 9 25
We need to look for a commandement to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem.
The commandement which most correctly answers to the specifications of Daniel 9:25 was the decree of Artaxerxes to Ezra, recorded in Ezra chapter 7.
It was issued in the year 457 BC.
A week according to this prophecy is seven years, which means that 69 weeks equals 483 years.
Since there is no year zero, this means that the 69 weeks ran until the year 27 AD.
457 BC + 483 (69 weeks) = 27 AD
Jesus was born in 4 BC and in 27 AD he was 30 years of age when he was baptized, annointed,
“Now when all the people were baptized, and it came to passe that Iesus also being baptized, and praying, the heauen was opened:And the holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a Doue vpon him, and a voice came from heauen, which said, Thou art my beloued sonne, in thee I am well pleased.
And Iesus himselfe began to be about thirty yeeres of age”
– Luke 3:21-23
According to Daniel 9:25, it would take 483 years (69 weeks) from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince. This commandment of Artaxerxes fulfils this verse as Messiah the Prince appeared in 27 AD.
“And hee shall confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the midst of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease”
– Daniel 9:27
In “the midst of the weeke” means three and a half years later. That was 31 AD.
It was the year that Jesus was crucified and his death constituted the final and perfect blood sacrifice to which all other sacrifices had previously pointed and thus perfected and ended all sacrifices.
Three and a half years later, after Stephen was stoned to death, the message of the Kingdom of God began going out to the whole world and the New Covenant was fulfilled.
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amen and amend
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lol I can’t type…amen and amen
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I agree. It seems so obvious that I cannot believe people think this is about the AC.
Have you entertained the thought that the 3.5 years after Jesus resurrection is the entire church age? It sounds unbiblical but if you really research this idea it is fairly convincing. Read GK Beale’s book Revelation if interested. He makes some compelling points biblically.
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https://archive.org/details/daniel-9-in-nt-verses/mode/2up?view=theater
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There is a lie called preterism which says all of Matthew 24 end times was fulfilled Jesus came back and the Bible is finished.
These heretics make this present evil world the “kingdom” of Christ. Much of Matthew 24 was fulfilled in 70AD, but not all.
Those who teach the Bible is ALL past or all future is all wrong. throw away the writings of Paul and throw away the book of Revelation and full preterism works. They will argue the Bible says “Shortly comes to pass?” means a few years in human terms. God does not think in human terms, they ignore the book of acts as well as the rest of the new testament.
So this present evil world is the “Kingdom” of Christ to you? How about EVERY EYE shall see him return? Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. IN THE CLOUDS?
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. A DAY OR TWO FOR THE LORD IS NOT LONG AT ALL. Shortly come to pass
Preterism: the belief that ALL prophecy of the Bible is past.
Acts 1:11 “Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
After the resurrection Jesus appeared to the apostles and was taken into heaven.
Matthew 24:30 “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall ALL all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
Umm when did Jesus appear coming in the clouds? I missed that event.
Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he (Christ) cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Did your eyes see Christ come? Me neither – so it has to be future.
They want you to think the Lord returned in glory. Paul proves they are LIARS.
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Two Conflicting Alternatives Brought Forth: Preterism and Futurism!
Rome’s answer to the Protestant Reformation was twofold, though actually conflicting and contradictory. Through the Jesuits Ribera, of Salamanca, Spain, and Bellarmine, of Rome, the Papacy put forth her futurist interpretation. Almost simultaneously Alcazar, Spanish Jesuit of Seville, advanced the conflicting preterist interpretation. These were designed to meet and overwhelm the Historical interpretation of the Protestants. Though mutually exclusive, either Jesuit alternative suited the great objective equally well, as both thrust aside the application of the prophecies from the existing Church of Rome.
http://www.gospel-herald.com/futurism_history.htm
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Well done Hugo, you are spot on! Anyone who takes the time to read all the ‘rapture’ scriptures for themselves, without bias, can only come to the conclusion that it is talking about the second coming that will happen at the end of the tribulation as Jesus clearly stated. We must endure to the end. Keep the faith brothers and sisters and may we not be deceived. Stay close to the Lord and His word.
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So you think someone selling his interpretation for $80 is going to be the truth???
I will stick with what our Father has to say as precept upon precept!:
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Do you not read any interpretations of scripture? I find that the more I read, the deeper my understanding of scripture is. Even if I discount almost everything someone has written it can still be valuable.
Of course the Bible is the ultimate truth, but I don’t think we should discount study from others. Discernment is key.
I didn’t buy Beale’s book for that much! Wow. That’s insane.
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I read our Father’s Word relying on the Holy Spirit to teach me:
John 14:26 But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you.
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1 John 2:22 – Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 – Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED? Oh and you are not sure of a mark of the beast? well you shall find out when the man of sin arrives with his false prophet doing miracles.
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Maybe. I will certainly be vigilant. Why do you think the mark is literal and not spiritual when the Bible talks about marks and seals as spiritual? Is it because of what is on the news?
I don’t know if there is one man of sin. I don’t think I will know until the end. I think the elite may present a man that most think is the man of sin (there is no single antichrist) but whether he is or not waits to be seen.
I really don’t know. I suppose it depends on whether I believe the signs and wonders are real of CGI!!!
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the mark of the beast seems to be both physical and spiritual since one must give allegiance to the man of sin, the Beast aka antichrist. you shall have the false prophet performing miracles which shall fool the masses.
Revelation Chapter 13: 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
(mimics the miracles of Elijah in 2 Kings chapter 1)
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
2 Kings 1:10 “And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.”
2 Thessalonians Chapter 2: 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
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sadly most pastors work for the enemy and teach the pre trib lie so the sheep’s faith is ruined when they find they might have to die for Christ who died for them.
John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate (ROME) sought to release (Jesus) him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. (they threatened to accuse Pilate of treason)
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
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Hugo
Your scriptural knowledge is defiantly improving, buckle up.
This is why Paul was chosen as a bridge between Jews and Gentiles, no one understood the previous value of circumcision more than Paul. Paul had really difficult job, on one hand trying to coax the Jews away from their physical circumcision that used to make them superior whilst trying to teach the inclusion of righteous Gentiles and the things required of them by God to keep them clean, The Commandments.
It is easy to understand the reluctance of the Jews to give up this mark that had previously made them superior. Unfortunately many still continue this ‘mutilation’ in some sort of haze or delusion. These people should not be hated for their delusion because unless they wake up they will pay a terrible price.
We have to understand God has picked people multiple times and multiple times they have fallen to satan, because satan is only interested in corrupting those people that are with God. God has to be sure we will do what is right whatever pressure we are put under and we must each be tested to OUR level, but God says we will not be tested beyond OUR ability to cope. Imagine you have a strong powerful person who is tested mildly and is chosen by God, the first thing satan would say to anyone that would listen is “they had an easy ride”. God must also test those he gave a ‘personal’ covenant to to a higher level as they knew God and still chose to follow satan.
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
1 Corinthians 10, 13
1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Romans 5
10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Isaiah 48, 10-11
Stand righteous and strong in repentance and cleanliness, the way is narrow and strict, and so it should be. God will no longer risk the pollution of his name by those that claim to follow The Word.
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satan knows how his end will come. it is already written.
3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,
4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
First the evil rulers of Babylon will be dethroned and thrown into the gutter.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
Then satan is thrown into the gutter onto those rulers of Babylon that once worshipped him in fear and awe.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
They see satan has none of the power he convinced them of, they see him as just a week man and mock him.
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
Compare this description of satan with Ezekiel 28, 13, his beauty, the workmanship of his instrument and voice the perfection of the creation of God is now described as a screeching noise, his once golden jewel encrusted body now covered in worms.
(Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.)
Ezekiel 28:13
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
The rulers of Babylon that bowed down and filled satan with bold praise and service now looking upon him, goading, mocking him, deriding him as he rolls in the dirt and worms.
18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
This is why he despises his followers and hates them to destruction. I know his workers come here and really and truthfully you should understand his plan for you. You can still with a open heart repent your sins and come to God.
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I think we should all have a nice cup of tea and cake and relax.
If you’re not a Christian and reading this, God loves you and sent His son Jesus Christ to die for all of your sins, so that you may have eternal life. Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Call on Him today.
God bless us all in these times.
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Hear, hear!
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it’s such an important doctrine. I can’t imagine why somebody would deny it. but I guess being suspicious of anything the media hypes is a legit way to be. i get it. soooo maybe they are doing this book/movie hype on purpose bc they know we would say that and so it’s like a reverse pshycology type dealio???? in my life I know that the so-called Christians in bible studies i attend or serve with in para church ministries who don’t believe in the rapture are also usually haughty, ignorant, evolution believing, works based, catholics or lutherans or presbyterians or others who baptise babies, number the commandmens wrong and are anti-Israel and lean towards climate change/black lives matter/soccer/ dog worshipness/rainbow/tran/disney/democrat stuff….and they mock the real Christians who want to save babies, support Israel, preach the gospel and love everyone.
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Oh we believe in the resurrection, just not at the beginning of the tribulation. anti-Israel? you mean support the anti-christs that hate and curse Jesus and Christians? You support them? 1 John 2:22 – Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 – Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mat 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (which is why the New Testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew since it was the so called “Jews” who killed Jesus)
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
So you think we should pray for, bless and support those who hate Christ?
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Excellent comment! 100%
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Its about Family… Were you called by your shepherd, are you a Sheep or a goat, a wheat or a tair… Its about family, my father is the king of Kings & lord of lords, there is no one like Him
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Agreed Jesus is God in the flesh King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ is God Incarnate “…they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US.” — MATTHEW 1:23 Neither is there salvation in any other [than Jesus]: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12
The evil ones want to deceive Christian people by teaching the pre trib rapture lie.
Some are merely mislead and others deceive due to evil.
So the lukewarm churchy people lose their faith when they “miss the rapture” and believers understand they must die for their faith – totally unprepared.
All cause their paid for lying preachers teach it to plant a false prophecy so when it fails they can call Jesus a false prophet and deny him and end up worshiping the beast.
Besides church goers will have fewer tithe payers if they know they must die for the faith, so preachers teach the pre trib fairy tale lie.
Pre tribber teachers lie and say: “Jesus is not a wife beater”
“God would never let us die for our faith or suffer persecution”
“that clear Bible warning verse is not for Christians, it is ONLY for the Jews”
10 of the 12 apostles died for their faith. Stephen died for his faith.
Paul died for his faith. Millions in history died for their faith in Jesus.
Pre tribbers are the spoiled brats of western churchianity.
50+ Millions Christians died in Communist Russian under Stalin in the last 100 years,
what they were not worthy to escape?
Perhaps they can trick them to take 666 the mark of the beast since Satan convinced them it is not the mark of the beast as they can not be here for it?
Why we will not be here for the mark of the beast – so this can not be it they shall say
many shall deny their faith thinking Jesus was a “false prophet” since he “lied” about the pre trib rapture…?
false prophecies has consequences….
they shall follow the messiah of the ANTICHRIST Jews as the Jews proudly proclaim: “SEE WE TOLD YOU JESUS WAS A FALSE MESSIAH AND FALSE PROPHET? false prophecies has consequences….
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 – In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the END end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
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Keep up the great videos Hugo I’ve been with you since almost the beginning.
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Billy Crone- Get A Life Ministries did a thorough study and research about all of the pastors and scholars who wrote and taught on the proof of the Pre-trib Rapture as far back as 130 A.D.! Before, the lies came forward in 1830 out of Ireland and unraveled the truth evidenced in so many scriptures!!
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Hi Hugo…
Im saddened to hear hugo, some, / demons / people have threatened you, its very sad to hear this, especially as all your videos are Truthful & you speak the Truth in Love, the same as Jesus Christ, would do… ((wwjd))
All i can say is a prayer to the Father & for a plee for forgiveness.. About the rapture as i was fed lies, from different churches i attended… I was once very gullible, i suppose, i look at things, with child like faith…. As i was listening to you Hugo, i felt to write a prayer of forgiveness to the Father & to Jesus Christ, on here & elsewhere as im disslesive person & have really struggle reading spelling & remembering some things, so i mostly listen to things, videos, audio, etc, when i used to attend ((the shed)) ((the church)) etc i believed everything the minister / pastor said, …. As a child…
Thank you Jesus Christ for waking me up & removing me from that evil structure of control & abuse,, called church…
Dear Lord Jesus Christ & my Heavenly Father, please for give me for listening to man (ie ministers, pastors, evangelists etc) Thank you Father for waking me up in 2018/19 & for personally removing me from those places of liers, decevers & abominations, called church… & for you delivering me from tha sess pit of vipers..
Thank you for Family & Thank you for Being my Father in Heaven, he teaches me & corrects, like a Father should
Thank you Father God, for speaking to Hugo & thank you, for Hugo listening to your Son Jesus Christ & following him alone,, and for speaking the king james Bible verses to us all, thank you for Hugos Gift of talking & speaking, please Jesus Christ, Bless Hugo & his Family & may no harm come to him or his Loved ones, in the Mighty name of Jesus Christ my Lord & Saviour.. Amen and Amen 🙏🏻
((( BLESSED IS THE MAN WHO PERSEVERES UNDER TRIAL… james 1 v 12 )))
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SALVATION ISSUE.
Revelation 14:11
“And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
AFTER 1st RESURRECTION
“Rapture” is after the 1st Resurrection.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
SUFFER & DIE then 1st RESURRECTION
If you don’t believe you will be on Earth during the Mark of the Beast you will definitely take it. You won’t be able to buy or sell without it. At some point you will face beheading.
Revelation 20:4-6
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
2nd RESURRECTION IS UNTO DEATH
Revelation 20:7-15
”And when the thousand years are expired … And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged …. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
DECEIVED
Revelation 19:20
“And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast…”
No one is raptured until AFTER those who die during the Mark of the Beast are beheaded.
The people who take the Mark of the Beast are deceived.
Burn forever if you are tricked into taking the Mark of the Beast.
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Hugo, I have watched your videos for some time now and find you to be spot on most of the time. I appreciate your content and have not left a comment until now. I love this subject. There is no better way to torque off an evangelical christian than to attack the sacred doctrine of the rapture and dipensationalism in general. Its adherents can be rabidly inconsistent and equally angry when confronted with biblical truth of its non existence. people love to tell me to read the “left behind” books and other non fiction books by the same authors. Well, I have and its all gibberish, charts, graphs and twisted scripture. So, we are on the same page as far as that goes. I do take exception to your statement that the old covenant has been renewed and that there is no division between the old and new. I may have misunderstood your statement, but I will continue anyway. You rightly quote Jesus when he said he came to fulfill the law and the prophets and indeed that covenant has been fulfilled, Jesus himself being the fulfillment. I will not quote you a bunch of verses, but only a few to show that the old covenant is gone and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was the exclamation point of its end. I would refer you to Hebrews chapters 7-10 as a starting point. Hebrews chapter 8:12-13 ” For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, a new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.” These four chapters give proper preeminence to the new covenant. You rightly say there is no division, all are one in Christ. This is very true in the new covenant and quite false in the old. I could go on and on but I will cut this short, But would direct you to Mathew 21:33-46, the parable of the husbandmen. This is a fascinating and deep parable, but verses 43-44 ‘Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder,”
respectfully,
Jason, across the pond and high on the mountain.
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The is a good respectful comment indeed. We all need to realize that Yah made an everlasting covenant with Abraham while His covenant with Israel was conditional.
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Good point Jason – Jesus said: John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
Someone asked Jesus what was the most important commandment.
Matthew 22:36 – Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 – Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 – This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 – And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 – On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets. On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets. Hopefully we have enough sense to know that we are not to love the enemies of God and have them as neighbors. Maybe we should move if you have satanists as neighbors?
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This is such a good video, Hugo! Absolutely agree. People don’t even know the difference between the old and new Covenant anymore. If they did, they would see that there’s no way the Jewish nation will rule again as God’s people or etc.
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Christians have experienced tribulation for almost 2000 years. But I’m not sure that this is the same as the Great Tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:21:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
It is tempting to equate the Great Tribulation with the “time of Jacob’s trouble” and with Daniel’s 70th week. But we can’t really be sure that these are all the same.
Romans 11:25-26 seems to suggest that there will be a period after all the Gentiles have been saved when Israel will be saved:
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
So it is also tempting to suppose that the salvation of Israel will happen during the “time of Jacob’s trouble” and Daniel’s 70th week but this is just a guess.
I don’t really trust anyone who claims to know exactly what is going to happen at the Second Coming. The messages of the Seven Thunders were not included in the Book of Revelation. So we know that we don’t have the full story about what is going to happen. We just need to keep spreading the Gospel while we wait to see what happens.
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I just had another thought on this topic. Those of you who have researched, yes actually looked into, the flat earth stuff know that the earth really is flat, motionless, within an [inescapable] dome. BUT how many of you know that this recent flat earth movement was started by Eric Dubey with his flat earth book – The Atlantian Conspiracy? I believe, and the evidence suggests, that Eric is a “controlled opposition” agent. But if that is true, why the heck would he have started such a “truth tsunami”? Most people when they find out that he is the person who basically started the recent movement, use that fact alone to reject the entire argument (and its a very convincing argument) out of hand!
Now maybe, just maybe, the entire pre-trib rapture was taken public or hyped up by obvious controlled opposition and mainstream elements for the reason that many would use that fact alone to reject the entire concept.
Also I think it is very, very possible that the coming “alien deception” (project blue beam) is going to be used to explain away the sudden disappearance of all those who have been “raptured” (whenever it happens). Why else would the enemy use so much time and resources to bring about an alien deception? Certainly he/they could use an “on planet” reason to bring about their one world religion and government without the use of aliens, no?
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Isaiah 40:22 “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:”
Instead of arguing over the shape of the earth, we should argue over what type of stones to use on sodomites / satanists
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Dear Hugo, it is right to open a honest discussion. I think the underlying fear is twofold; the fear of being ‘left behind’ due to Jesus ‘not knowing’ one, despite the various protestations (Mathew 7: 21-23) but actually due to hubris, self sanctimony. We are all guilty of these mind sets, and even if the rapture is real, one should not take it for granted. The other fear, what medics know a lot about, is the fear of dying (the process of dying). Christians are no different in this basic fear. I think both these fears are satanically inspired.
Perhaps Christians need to sober up and become stoic; that there is a good chance we will be actively martyred, or die due to malnourishment having refused the mark of the beast (I think it is an sub dermally imprinted QR code).
As for ‘dispensationalism, surely is this not antiemetic? We are trying to suggest that we the gentiles are superior and owe priority to to the Jews? Remember the parable of the vineyard workers, the fuss made by those who started early, when the latecomers were given the same stipend (Matthew 20: 1-6). So there is no priority in salvation between those who accepted Jesus and agreed to be born again in the holy spirit, and those saints who gain this during the 7 year tribulation.
I would also like to comment on circumcision. The medical justification includes failure to retract the foreskin (rare), and primary prevention of infections (including sexually transmitted infections) residing between the foreskin and the head of the penis. Circumcision makes it easy to wash the penis also. ‘Circumcision of the heart’ (Romans 2: 28 – 29) to my mind is willingly opening up all our memory stores to be examined by the Holy Spirit and Jesus, who you have invited to live in your heart (consciousness). So ‘skeletons in the cupboard’ and closed back rooms. This takes much courage, but you can feel much ‘lighter’ in your heart and soul. In ‘pilgrim’s progress’ John Bunyan describes the person dropping his heavily laden backpack, to proceed to heaven a lot easier and faster. But I also note that the final bit of the journey is fearlessly getting in to the river to let go of one’s earthly life. Not that I am recommending suicide, but facing the onset of death with equanimity and as I said before, with stoicism.
Finally Hugo, please can you clarify the progression and continuing links between the 10 commandments given to Moses (and I believe to Abraham) and Jesus’s ‘New Covenant’ of salvation by Faith and Grace. After all Jesus did say not a ‘jot or tittle’ of the 10 commandments was being changed; just that he was adding clarifications and overarching principles to make observing the 10 commandments easier (?). Please help us out Hugo.
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Good comment except one thing, dispensationalism is not anti-Semitic, rather it is “Jewish” supremacy. GENTILE merely means “NATION” AND NOT NON-JEW. Jews broke the covenant with the Lord. Exodus 19:5 – Now therefore, IF IF IF ye (Jews) will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Jer 11:10 – They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.
Lev 18:5 – Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which IF IF IF a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
Thing is the Jews did not keep the covenant and did you know God DIVORCED ISRAEL….Hmmm.most do not think so
Jeremiah 3:8 – And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Jer 5:11 – For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD.
Question: Who does the Bible alone say KILLED JESUS
A: 1 Thess 2:14-15 …even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, ….
Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews?
A: Act 4:12 – Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mat 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Matthew 23:15 – Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (ALL Pharisees are Jews, not all Jews are Pharisees) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
John in John 3:36 – He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
1Cor 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
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Chaplin Bob,
I want to agree with you when you asked – Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews? Because to believe otherwise sort of diminishes the entire new covenant.
But, I have a problem with the following passages. Can you please explain what Paul meant in Romans 11:26 KJV when he wrote “And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written”?
Romans 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
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Yes all Israel shall be saved, but not without Christ. Explained easily – Paul writes Romans 3:23 “For ALL all have SINNED sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” ….all have sinned……so did Jesus sin? If all means all then we have no savior. Yet writing of Christ in Hebrews 4:15 “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.” Jesus was without SIN and yet ALL have sinned. so is ALL Israel saved with or without Christ? If yes then Jesus is a liar.
John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:22 – 29: And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon’s porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.”
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
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The Big Deception is the current jews are Fake jews.
They are NOT Gods Chosen ones. They are NOT the children of Jacob/Israel.
They do NOT worship the Living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
They follow satan.
They, sacrifice babies, lie, steal and murder. And have done so for centuries.
Research the history of the Khazarian jews and their satanic talmud book.
One better not pray for these enemies of God.
They trampled His Holy Land and sent His Children into slavery.
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Chaplain Bob Walker, Shalom, peace be with you. You seem to be very informative and knowledgeable can you please help me in your understanding of Matthew 27:52 when the graves were open? Was this also some kind of rapture or maybe there was more than one rapture?
blessings, Gino
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Greetings, Matthew Chapter 27: 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Can you imagine the stories those who were dead and came back to life told. This was 3 days after the crucifiction
The book of revelation was written decades later. There were a few instances of those who had died were brought back to life and even in the old testament. In 1 Kings Chapter 17 Elijah was allowed to bring back to life the widow’s son. In 2 Kings 13:21 a dead man touched the bones of the prophet and came back to life. In acts 20 Paul was allowed to revive a dead boy.
However these are not the 2 resurrections of the book of revelation. Jesus in John 5:29 “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
Revelation 20:5 “But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.”
Revelation 20:6 “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
Concerning the graves opening after the death of Christ, did you know Jesus went to Hell for 3 days to preach to the old testament saints?
They are now in heaven awaiting their resurrected bodies. Revelation 20:4 “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls (not bodies) of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”
Revelation 6:9 “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:”
Luke 16 covers the old testament saints in Abraham’s bosom.
Matthew 12:40 “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall (Jesus) the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
1 Peter 3:19 “By which also he (Christ) went and preached unto the spirits in (Hell) prison;”
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Please everyone here, believe what you want, I
m not here to deceive anyone, Im just giving my opinion, on how I am learning and interpreting scripture for myself. King James Bible ONLY.I still believe there will be a pre-trib rapture because of these scriptures below.
Trump is only mentioned twice in the King James Bible, and this is how I see these two chapters and verses linking to the revelation trumpets.
my opinion is, the trump refers to GOD, and then attention is drawn to; ( for the trumpet shall sound )
which refers too; ( And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. ) this is the 1st trumpet ready to sound, straight after Jesus Christ claims His Bride, because we are in Him and He His in Us, for we are the body of Christ, then Wrath of God is sounded unto all those in the Earth/World.
at the last trump, trump of God, And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound, for the trumpet shall sound, and the first angel sounded.
I can still be wrong, however, I have to ask this question, If the Father in Heaven refers to His Sheep, as His priced possession, and say your priced possession, was something dear to you, would you give up any of your priced possessions to be trampled on?, so why would Jesus God incarnate and His Holy Spirit suffer lose in this way?.
I`m not here to convince you, like I said before, its how I read it and understand it. remember the rapture is not that important, preaching the Gospel, leading others to Christ is the most important thing us Christians should be focused on, God Bless.
1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: ( for the trumpet shall sound ), and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Revelation 8:7
4And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. 5And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 ( And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. ) 7The (first angel sounded), and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8And the (second angel sounded), and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10And the (third angel sounded), and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Revelation 8:12
9And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12And the (fourth angel sounded), and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
Revelation 9:1
1And the (fifth angel sounded), and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Revelation 9:13
10And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. 13And the (sixth angel sounded), and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Revelation 11:15
12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15And the (seventh angel sounded); and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
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I agree. I too wonder why so many are quite as adamant of their position, as Rapture timing is unclear.
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I agree, I believe God is keeping it a mystery, this is why, when its mentioned, two go out and one is taken.
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The seals:
I believe the white horse is the pope and its UN army.
The red horse is the communistic countries.
The black horse is the black pope and petroleum.
The green/pale horse is islam. (1/4 is Islamic now)
Now all four are ready to make war against God’s children.
The trumpets:
Since the third trumpet, Wormwood, literally means Chernobyl. I believe it was blown in 1986.
So the first trumpet is WW1, for indeed all green was burned.
The second trumpet is WW2, for indeed 1/3 of the ships perished.
The fourth trumpet is Kuwait, for indeed the sun, moon and stars were darkened.
The fifth trumpet may have been the economic collapse of 2008, for it lasted exactly five months and the suicide lines were ringing 24/7.
Now we’re waiting for the sixth trumpet, which is the four horses making war, WW3.
All info can still be found on google.
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Dear Hugo,
Thank you much for posting these difficult subjects.
PLEASE make a video about the FIRST BEAST introducing the Mark of the Beast.
For Revelation 19:20 clearly states the First Beast gets thrown into the lake of fire together with the False Prophet for DECEIVING the whole world with the MotB.
The SECOND BEAST merely adds that no one may buy or sell without the MotB. (Rev.13)
He gets BOUND for 1000 years. Revelation 20:1.
To me it is so clear the Jab is the MotB.
For the UN is the First Beast.
Thank you
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Yep, there seems to be no question (if you actually look into it) that the jabs were the MotB.
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Were, are and will be.
Many tell me it’s all in the past.
But in the meantime the CBDC is being introduced worldwide.
The UN is introducing the Digital Health Pass.
Some day in the near future one will not be able to buy or sell without showing proof of vaccination.
It will be a devastating realisation for those Christians that took the MotB already.
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@Seeker
I can buy and sell. I’ve seen rivers of blood. 1/3rd of the sea/fish dying. But not 1/3rd of ships destroyed.
We’re 2 years in. The Jewish sacrifices have not resumed. Though they could as soon as the fall/next spring. Next month of Av. if the red heifer’s are “pristine.”
The Son of perdition is supposed to stop the sacrifices and declare himself god.
Revelation is mysterious. But who gives the mark? The 2nd beast who heals the 1st beast’s mortal wound.
That didn’t happen. People were fooled/ignorant/coerced into gene therapy/sterilization and depopulation. (Plague?)
Get ready to be hungry, because we haven’t seen anything yet.
Gotta love the statues of other gods around “secular sites” like CERN and Shiva. There are dozens more.
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Oh to be clear. I didn’t have any injections or wear a mask ever.
But “Graphene in rainwater.” – July 2021… “Andreas Noack: Graphene pioneer.” (Micro Razor Blades Injected) Graphene Hydroxide. Non-biodegradable. 1 atom thick and sharp enough to cut epithelial cells.
You’ve seen the stuff (Computer chips? Tubes and structures in blood/injection vials) under dark-field microscopy? Over 5 nations have released microscope images of adulterants in unopened vials.
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The Rapture comes from the Schofield Bible commissioned by the Rothschilds. There is no rapture we have to go through tribulation. See eurofolkradio.com or age of laodicea.com
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See “Dr. Walter Martin: Historical Pre-millennialism.” It’s what the church believed for ~1800 years. Before the Darby hooey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTyle41I6k I basically only listen to dead preachers, who have P. Greek/Hebrew linguistic knowledge/education.
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Just another one of my opinions here, what if,
What if, Disclaiming the pre-trib rapture, discourages people wanting to be saved by the Gospel, your saying, if I have to go through the tribulation, what’s the point of being saved by the Gospel, if it is the power of God unto Salvation, what then?, how and if I could lose it in the tribulation, don`t you think Satan wants as many left behind as possible unsaved, to persecute, and not removed out, to the safety of God in heaven.
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One is going to have a choice – serve Christ or serve satan. Matthew 10:28 “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Luke 12:5 “But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.” Read the book of acts sometime where people died for their faith
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Hugo, you have opened a can of worms! I love it. There have been some questions in this discussion about all of Israel being saved and questions of a similar pattern. I believe Romans 9:6-9 gives us a clear answer. Read it in context and see, but here it is. ” Not as though the word of God has taken none affect. For they are not all Israel , which are of Israel: Neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.” The new Covenant Israel is all who believe in Christ, Jew or Gentile, and through Christ we become heirs of the promise and the children of God. And all Israel will be saved.
Respectfully,
Jason across the pond and high on the mountain
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Did you know the Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL? Jeremiah 3:8 “And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.”
and yet there was to be a new covenant (Christ) Jeremiah 31:31 “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:”
Just because someone claims to be a Jew does not make it so. Yes so ALL Israel (who was divorced) shall be saved IF they accept Christ as the new covenant. Does all mean all? Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
SO did Jesus sin?
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Sorry, I meant to answer this. “Did Jesus sin?”
Unequivocally, no He did not, ever. Never-ever. Matthew 4, Mark 1, and Luke 4. All state He did not. Tempted by Satan for 40 days.
This is part of why He was the perfect sacrifice. Worthy of all our sins.
Unlike an Ox, Cow or Whatever. He was and is, the sinless man-god/God-man/Son of man/Son of God.
Jesus Christ, Yeshua Hamashiach. Once and for all, Messiah, Saviour.
Romans 2:12-13 “For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.”
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Agreed so when Paul said ALL have sinned it excludes Jesus and when the Bible says ALL Israel shall be saved, it excludes those who reject Christ. Jews do not get saved without going thru Jesus. Muslims and Jews say their god has no Son.
Psalms 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little.
Psalms 2:7 “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”
Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (Hebrews 1:2)
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:3)
So many Christians don’t know the God of the whole Bible is Jesus. Father God gave everything unto Jesus. They think there is two Gods, that the mean angry one in the Old Covenant and that nice one in the New Covenant. He said I am the Lord thy God and I change not.
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (1 Corinthians 10:4)
That’s why Jesus said “if you have the Son you have the Father also”
So if one only believes in the God of the Old Covenant as Creator, as some other God, (Jews call that God HaShem which in Hebrew means The Name) Well our God has a name and His name is Jesus.
Anyone who denies that name is accursed. Jesus is The only Way.
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Yes, I know of the divorce, and no Christ did not sin and being God in the flesh he cannot fall short of His own glory. The distinction I am trying to make is that “Israel”, that despotic government on stolen land in Palestine is not the Israel of God. “for he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly: neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly: and circumcision, is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter: whose praise is not of men , but of God.” Romans 2:28-29.
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The trouble with taking Scripture out of context & in isolation can lead people to believe that Christ has forever ‘divorced’ His people. That is not so: as pardon Is promised (3:12-20). “See God’s readiness to pardon sin, and the blessings reserved for gospel times. These words were proclaimed toward the north; to Israel, the ten tribes, captive in Assyria. They are directed how to return. If we confess our sins, the Lord is faithful and just to forgive them. These promises are fully to come to pass in the bringing back the Jews in after-ages.
To believe that Israel exists on stolen land is a raging of anti-Semitism. There is no such place as Palestine, which ‘exists’ on Israeli land that they will soon recover. Watch for the war of Ezekiel 38-39. Israel is the ONLY country in the world which borders are outlined in the Bible.
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Ahh yes, the old go to for those with no argument, antisemitism. Thank you for devolving the conversation into idiocy.
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I noticed jchr12 blocked me. That is what they do when they can not back up their lies with the Bible as all they can do is call you names like anti-Semite, bigot or what not. Well if one really wants to know what the synagogue of satan believes (they pretend to be Jews) it is a simple matter of reading their own writings.
What do the Jews really think of Jesus. https://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (magician, idolator, sexually impure)
Yeshu is a curse that means may his name be blotted out. sometimes they add an “A” to Yeshu and tell you it means savior.
Look into the Noahide laws. Was Noah given a set of laws? NO these Noahide laws exist only in the minds of antichrist Rabbis.
Jews ORAL Traditions: Tell us about brit milah or Metzitzah b’peh where the Rabbi uses his mouth to suck blood from the baby’s bloody penis at circumcision as part of the circumcision ritual. Rabbi sticks a babies penis in his mouth. this is a real thing people look it up.
PROOF: https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/new-york-city-reaches-agreement-with-mohels-over-circumcision-involving-oral-suction
Maybe some can argue the world Jewish congress is anti-Semitic spreading lies?
What Jews really believe: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1567567/jewish/Kabbalah.htm
Kabbalah is magic and witchcraft posing as Judaism.
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No Bob, you’re not blocked, just ignored, and for good reason judging by your latest post.
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Yes, I am quite familiar with the noahide laws and such. I don’t know how to have an intelligent conversation with somebody that says Palestine doesn’t exist. It’s mind numbing. Many of these same people are just fine with Israel running Palestinian christians off their land which have been in their families for hundred of years. Real brothers and sisters in Christ dispossessed of their land, killed and tortured and “christian zionists” love it. Well, they do not follow the Prince of Peace as far as I am concerned. Just so there is no question that Palestine exists here are the 4 biblical references: Joel 3:3, Exodus 15:14, Isaiah 14:29, and Isaiah 14:31.
A short history of Palestine: The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece, when Herodotus wrote of a “district of Syria, called Palaistinê“ in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.
It is quite difficult to argue with such historical and biblical ignorance. I will say you do a pretty good job of it.
Jason across the pond and high on the mountain
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I agree with you Jason – the antichrists claiming to be “Jews” murder Christian Palestinians and steal their homes and bulldozed their churches and we are supposed to bless the antichrists who curse Jesus? No such thing as a christian zionist. that is like a christian witch or christian satanist. I await what the zionists will do when the antichrists tell them to deny Jesus or get their heads cut off under the Noahide laws.
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No, I haven’t presented an idiotic answer, but a good and established commentary showing your error. No Biblical Christian ever hated the Jews.
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jchr12 says no christian ever hated Jews? Well Jews hate Jesus who is the Christ. King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews – King James Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
….because I tell you the truth….
….because I tell you the truth….
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL. I suppose jchr12 believes Jesus is not a “Christian” for such hate on the Jews.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be “christians”
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Look, I have heard all this before and it’s christian fairy tails. This can’t happen until this happens and then this will happen and on and on and always wrong. I remember when it was all the buzz that after 40 years ( a supposed generation) from the establishment of the Zionist state of Israel it was rapture time. No other foolish prophecies from these people have come to pass either. So , you want to toss antisemitism willy-nilly, well how about this doosy. The current political state of Israel is a satanic counterfeit to dupe naive and ignorant “christians” into remaining under the law, the old covenant, instead of taking their Christ bought, Christ given place in the new Covenant. I am going to wager a guess that you don’t even know what Semitic is. Semitic is not a people per se, there are many Semitic speaking people groups, therefore, semetic is a type of language and there are many Semitic speaking peoples including the Palestinians ( that don’t exist of course). So, when people like you ignorantly toss the term antisemitic out to virtue signal, I always respond with I am not antisemitic, I love the Palestinian people.
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You’ve heard it before because it’s true. You say you love Palestinian people, but seem to hate Jews. That means you’re not a Christian.
Jesus was born a Jew, and lived & taught as a Jew. They were & remain God’s chosen & Jesus will return to Jerusalem to rule all people’s. ALL faiths will be judged by Christ.
The reestablishment of Israel is as prophesied, and its success in defending itself is miraculous, so I’d be careful in how you view that Nation.
It is written that the generation alive at the time the ‘fig tree blossoms’ (Israel) will see the return of Christ, so we are very close to the end.
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Again, I know the fairy tales that John Hagee and his ilk espouse. Just because you can regurgitate what people like him have told you doesn’t make it true, it is not true. Scofield futurist dispensationalism has turned Christianity into war mongering, blood thirsty, murderous religion in the eyes of unbelievers and the world, as America fights “wars” for Israel. The actual Christians in these war torn countries are so confused as to how their supposed brethren could support a war against them in support of an atheistic, occultic nation of Israel. Nobody loves killing innocents in the name of Israel more than American “Christians”.
This is a good synopsis: “Evangelicals erroneous interpretation of Israel, which includes the erroneous belief that Zionist Israel is Biblical Israel, which prompts Christians to support all kinds of wars, some of which could lead to world war 3 including the current one, which would be a nuclear war, and their erroneous interpretation of a pre-tribulation rapture,which allows them to promote such wars with the false confidence that they will be raptured to heaven before a global war will start, means they are foolishly endangering both their own children’s lives and the lives of the people of the world in a war from which there is no rapture and which they helped to create.”
Pastor Chuck Baldwin, Liberty Fellowship
Oh, lest I forget you said no Christian “hated” Jews. Just for the record, speaking critically of someone or some thing is not hatred. But I would refer you to John Calvin. I am sure you will be shocked to read what he wrote.
80% of evangelicals believe in some sort of Scofield futurist heresy, so truly the road is narrow for those who are not under the delusion of this false Israel. 1800 years of church history did not suffer under this delusion.
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Understanding comes from knowing the Word. It’s interesting that you denigrate John Hagee, but then refer to Calvin. Accepting only arguments that fit your beliefs and rejecting others seems to be the way of this forum, which often escalates into personal abuses.
There’s no escaping your hatred of Jews whether or not you accept the moniker anti-Semitic. Hatred of an entire race of people is nearer to insane than I expect you’d care accept, and is far from Christian. Aside from being a most welcoming Nation, Israel is far from atheist, but has devout Jews, and practicing Jews, and many other religions with many turning to Christ. It is a safe haven in an area of antidemocratic hatred.
Believing that somehow God has rejected them, or that Jews have morphed into something other than Jews is only a cover for anti-Semitism.
People are just people. Some better than others, and all will be judged by Christ.
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Only an ANTICHRIST Zionist would call the words of Jesus and the Bible as “HATE SPEECH” or “ANTI – SEMITIC”
I am certain had you lived in the time of Jesus you would have proudly stood next to the Jews screaming CRUCIFY HIM to Pilate to have Jesus killed.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews – King James Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
….because I tell you the truth….
….because I tell you the truth….
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be “christians”
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Did you read Calvin? I thought not. Quit your ad hominem attacks and address the the argument.You have yet to engage in the actual argument and just fawn over the tyrannical state of Israel and virtue signal your mental slavery to the Jewish religion.
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I don’t believe I have attacked you, but apologies if you feel I have. You use Calvin to justify & support your hatred, and that is not in His Word. I believe the Bible, so do my best to love all. God chose the Jewish matriarchal bloodline to give us His son, and that deserves honouring. He will also return there, and that too should tell you something.
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Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 – I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. and….
Jesus in Revelation 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
This jchr12 says the synagogue of satan who are antichrists that curse Jesus are Israel.
Bible old testament book of Amos 5:26 – But ye [Jews] have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch (Satanic god child sacrifice by fire) and Chiun your images, the STAR STAR STAR star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. (Jews carried what star?)
Acts 7:43 – Yea, ye [Jews] took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the STAR STAR STAR star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
What STAR STAR STAR do the jews (even so called Messianic) carry? Moloch and Remphan
Moloch was the satanic god that demanded children be burned alive in fire.
Remphan has reference to the giants, think Goliath
Look at the Israeli flag.
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Well, that is not a real apology. You can’t say ” if you feel like I have attacked you” and then attack again in the next breath by saying “your hatred”. So, I will take it for what it is, not a real apology, but I accept it and thank you. I don’t hate anyone, but I will not align myself with enemies of Christ and I will criticize and call out those said enemies. Did you know you cannot publicly preach the Gospel in the state of Israel and that attempting to convert people to Christ is a crime and punishable by law and that Israeli converts to Christ are persecuted by the state of Israel?
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Did you know that the Bible has restrictions in 52 countries? Some where it’s difficult/dangerous to obtain, some illegal or highly restricted, and some strictly illegal and only available through covert smuggling.
You will be aware that extreme Islamists kill Christians, and indeed are killing them. Do you hate all these too, or just Jews ? Oh sorry, you don’t hate just won’t align yourself with enemies of Christ.
Your ‘hatred’ is very selective.
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ANTICHRIST JEWS HATE AND KILL CHRIST
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Act 9:23 – And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him
Act 23:12 – And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
Act 26:21 – For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Matthew 23:15 – Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
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I am not selective, I do not align myself any of them either. But, Israel has this false facade of being a democratic state, with freedom of religion and it is a lie and it is a lie that needs to be revealed.
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Yeah the creation of the antichrist Israeli state IS prophecy unfolding. It is not the Lord returning true Israel to the land since it will be the Lord himself who will bring true Israel back. Rather gathering the antichrists who hate Jesus in the land is the gathering of the tares or weeds to be burned in the parable of the wheat and the tares.
Jesus tells us plainly in Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed (weeds) tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST first the TARES (WEEDS) tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
(first the tares WEEDS get gathered, then the wheat last) could it be any more plain than this?) Did Jesus mess up the timing of end time events? pre tribbers seem to think so.
Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
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@Chaplain Bob Walker
Alright. While I agree with you on many points of theology.
Painting “Jews” with such a broad brush, is doing nothing but turning people away. All Muslims want to kill you? No. All Jews think this/want that. No.
You’re mixing things together. Your paint is brown. Don’t tar everyone with the same brush. There are many Jews who have become Christians. There are many Islamic who turn to Christ. 1 Billion Islamic, 1 Billion Chinese, 1 Billion Indians. 1 Billion Christians. Approximately… That’s 4 opinions. No wait it’s 4 Billion. You can use fancy words and dance around but, really you’re not helping anyone find Christ.
Sorry, if that’s too critical. I wanted to be honest without being completely disrespectful. Maybe you will read and regard it, momentarily at least.
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When a Jew truly believes in Christ (Like Paul) they cease to be Jews and are Christians. Yeshua of the so called messianic Jews is Lucifer in their complete Jewish Bible. Is Yeshua (Jesus) really Lucifer per the Complete (Messianic) Jewish Bible by Messianic Jewish ”MESSIANIC” author David Stern and his COMPLETE JEWISH BIBLE (NIV does the same)
The MORNING STAR (Lucifer in the KJV) who FELL from heaven in Isaiah 14 who goes to the pit.
Yeshua is the MORNING STAR of Revelation 22. (they want us to believe Jesus)
The messianic so called Jews claim Yeshua is the morning star who fell from heaven and is going to the pit who in the king james is called Lucifer.
So basically Jesus is Yeshua which is Morning Star who is the bad guy of Isaiah 14 going to hell. So is Yeshua really Lucifer? Only if you are a “messianic” Jew like david stern in his Bible.
This is what Messianic Jews teach and believe according to the Complete Jewish Bible by David Stern a so called messianic Jew. PS the NIV bible does the same thing.
The angel Gabriel Gave Mary the name of Jesus in the book of Luke which was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
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I think the error here in this sub discussion is that Israel today are NOT the Jews (Judeans) of Jesus time. They are those who say they are Jews but are not. Once you realize they are imposters and the children of Satan (literally look it up Cain is NOT in Adam’s bloodline he is the son of Satan) you realize the error of your opinions. Unfortunately I must side with the Chaplin Bob on this one (a Christian believer who hates the “Jews”) even though he is harsh and rude most the time on this forum.
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Woah, where is the reply button? Way up there ^
@Seeker
“Israel today are NOT the Jews (Judeans) of Jesus time.” Oui oui! Ja-ja! They seem to be even more “prideful” and Xenophobic. Among other things.
“They are those who say they are Jews but are not.” That’s scripture from Rev. Specifically for the church of Ephesus. It does not, necessarily apply to all of Israel/Judea.
Cain said to God: Am I my brother’s keeper? Able was a son of God. Ergo, Cain, his brother is also a son of God. Both are son’s of Adam before Seth.
You can make a point without insulting, or other things Bob does. (Chaplain must be a last name, I hope.)
Let’s quote Galatians 5:19-23 “Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.”
And James 3:1 “Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.”
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Whoops! Most theologians are of the view that Cain’s descendants were killed in the flood. It was Seth’s offspring who where Noah’s lineage. Er, Noah was Seth’s descendant. Seth obviously had decedents die in the flood.
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@Jason
“There is only one name under heaven by which we can be saved.” Acts 4:12
Israel is not praising His name. They’re still waiting for the messiah. They’re going to burn a “red heifer”” soon.
So yes, I agree. “The new Covenant Israel is all who believe in Christ, Jew or Gentile, and through Christ we become heirs of the promise and the children of God.” But no … “And all Israel will be saved.” No, that’s not biblical or even Jewish, Tanach belief… I don’t know about all the Talmud’s. It’s not in the New Testament, at all. “Narrow is the gate.”
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Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
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Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 – I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. and….
Jesus in Revelation 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
King James Bible book of John 5:16 – And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay [Jesus] him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5:18 – Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill (Jesus) him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7:1 – After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
Act 9:23 – And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him
Act 23:12 – And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.
Act 26:21 – For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
Matthew 23:15 – Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Mat 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 – For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
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I agree, the Israel of Romans 11:26 is does not refer to the nation of Israel, It is speaking of the true Israel of God, the church, the body of Christ, Jew and Gentile and all of true Israel will be saved.
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@Jason
Right, thank you for pointing that out. It is in the NT. But it depends what “all” means. All Christian’s will be saved. But Christ will say to some: “I never knew you.”
I will expand the scripture. Romans 11:23-32 “And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.”
Neither all of Israel, nor Christian’s will literally be saved. Jesus Christ is the linchpin of the new covenant.
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Sorry If I am repeating someone else. Jesus never lies. He said he will come twice.
He’s come, and left for now. When He comes back again. “The sky will roll back like a scroll.” Rev. or Isaiah… Or Matthew 24:27 “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
It’s going to be obvious, if you’re alive and with Christ.
Great video. We are all children of God. Dispensationalism, is replacement theology!!
It requires separation of “Jews” and “The church” … Gentiles are grafted in! (not separate)
Thanks for pointing out a few choice scriptures that signify a mid/post tribulation rapture. Revelation is the same depiction, twice in places…
I know Jesus Christ saves. Just like the sign’s say. I think I am Abraham’s seed. Not to boast, but to say that God keeps calling me back. Even when I stumble or falter.
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Wow!
From whether the ‘Taking up’ happens before, during or after the tribulation to debates about whether or not God loves Jews!
Come on guys ‘Love God’ ‘Love thy neighbour’ ‘Love your enemies’ that’s all we need to do here!
Stop filling up my inbox with all this other nonsense and get back to the matter in hand please 🙏
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agreed we are to love OUR enemies, not love those who hate the Lord. Do you love satan? I do not,
King David a man after God’s heart hates them that hate the Lord.
Psalms 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
2 Chronicles Chapter 19: 1 And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem.
2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
Should we love, bless and help those who hate Jesus the Lord?
1 Corinthians 16:22 – If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
How about Satan? Love him too? I think not.
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Chaplain Bob Walker
You desperately try to split apart those The Father sent his only son to unite to save his righteous family. Without the joining of righteous Jews to righteous Gentiles there would not be enough people to continue his family. The spite of satan, to try to destroy that which is righteous and clean.
Chaplain Bob Walker or whatever your real name is your task is to spread distrust and hatred between those two groups of people GOD HIMSELF joined, this indeed makes you a very dangerous entity. To directly attack the works of Christs Jesus, for which he gave his life, this does indeed make you a true anti-Christ.
The original advantage of the Jews
Paul the Jew
39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
Acts 21, 39
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3, 1-2 29-31
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Romans 11, 1-5 9-13
Through the grace of God righteous Gentiles (stranger and foreigners) taken into the family of God
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Ephesians 2, 11-19
1 For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the Lord for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
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So you agree with the synagogue of satan claiming to be Jews that Jesus is the most evil vile anti-Semite who ever lived?
I have a problem with Judaism that claims Mary was a whore that had sex with demons and got pregnant with Jesus and that Jesus performed his miracles via magic and the power of satan. Seems that you agree with the Jews?
”The Jewish Talmud (Babylonian edition) Rabbis records other sins of “Jesus the Nazarene”:
”He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).”
”He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).”
”He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).” proof: https://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm
Jesus speaking to these Talmudic Pharisee Jews – King James Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
….because I tell you the truth….
….because I tell you the truth….
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists and Israeli trolls pretending to be “christians”
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@Loccie Wow this is still going on month’s later? Good thing I don’t care. Where is “The Truth Not Doctrine” these days?
Ha-ha-ha… Time to go read Genesis… Oooh, I’m feeling a little Job’y. Perhaps I’ll just fly though 1st and 2nd Peter. (on my magic carpet, I call eyes.)
Ain’t (Isn’t) reading great? Bob is acting crazier and crazier. Sounding more and more incoherent, as the weeks pass and he’ still harping the same trash. Easily refuted, by one line of scripture. But he’s going to put in 15 more, give them a twist and make something mildly biblical/pseudo-biblical.
Hi Loccie! I hope you’re doing well. God Bless.
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Yeah quoting Jesus and the apostles is crazy to you antichrist Israeli trolls. Question: Who does the Bible alone say KILLED JESUS
A: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15 …even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, ….and they please not God, ….and they please not God, ….and they please not God, ….
Q: Is there another plan of salvation for unbelieving Jews?
A: Act 4:12 – Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Matthew 21:43 – Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Why the new testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
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‘ he who endures to the end will be saved ‘ – Matthew . There is no rapture and definitely no need for the ridiculous long winded answers on hear by individuals who quote scripture and never understood it !!! Is Matthew right or you , you delusional creature’s …
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Andy is the sadducee fool who does not understand – there shall be a resurrection of the just and the unjust. 1 Corinthians 15:13 “But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:” My Christ has risen.
Mark 12:18 “Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying,”
John 5:29 “And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
John 11:25 “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”
Revelation 20:6
“Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
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Roar! I’m a T-Rex. The vitriol! Attacks on a persona. Andy is Andy. A child of God. God desires all to be saved.
Philippians 2:1-2 “Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose.”
Bobby, bobby, me lad. You’re just plain wrong. “The Sadducees were a socio-religious sect of Jews active in Judea during the Second Temple period, from the second century BC through the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD…The group became extinct some time after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD.”
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Yes, the vitriol spewed by so many on here is sad. The worst of it is they claim to be Christians, but are driving people away from the faith.
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Tell us about brit milah or metzitzah b’peh where the talmudic rabbi sticks the babies penis in his mouth at circumcision to suck the blood. rabbi sticks the babies penis in his mouth at circumcision. Like we should listen to rabbis and jews who do this? This is real thing everyone look it up. maybe they trained the vatican priests? oh and guess what what kosher tribe owns the media
so you never hear about this sick practice. these want us to believe this tribe is the “chosen” people.
chosen for what is the real question.
But these are your chosen people I suppose
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@jchr12 Yes. Thankfully it seems to be a minority. Lot’s of people disagree, without becoming bigots.
Unfortunately Christian’s see the apostasy, point it out. Those who are Biblically ignorant, (might) read a pile of scripture, half of it twisted to suit the “Christian Claiming” party.
Without God’s intervention on their heart. Many will gloss over and ignore the entire message because of the confusion/adulteration. With futile attempts by Christian’s to correct/make accurate.
I pray God opens eyes, gives patience and most of all discernment, to those who need it most.
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Bobby! I know what you’re talking about and it’s a religious act, that I don’t agree with. Tarring with the same brush again?!
Yeah it’s pretty gross/pedo. Mucho no Bueno!
When I was born, it was standard procedure to circumcise. A Dr. did it shortly after birth. I’ve avoided “cheese” and other nasty genital issues. I know older men who had to have a circumcision because of various health issues. It’s not like African female/male circumcision traditions/ceremonies. I’m actually glad it’s done. Even if it caused psychological damage to my infant brain. I was back in Mother’s arms and teet’s within minutes.
They’re God’s chosen people. It says so in the Bible, so many times. You can dance around more. C’mon! Give me a nice river dance!
I don’t like the CCP (Chinese Gov. or policies) Tienanmen Square happened. Wither it was a colour revolution, or a natural one.
Are all Chinese Xenophobic, racist, bigots, exc.? Nope!
“The Vatican” ? Ha-ha! Read the book “In the closet of the Vatican.” 80% of bishops/priests admitted they are homosexual.
I don’t worry. Jesus Saves, In big NEON LETTERS. If I could “Touch the hem of His garment.”
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@Bobby Walker
Pew-pew! “Real men only dance when their feet are being shot at.” Ha-ha!
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@ Chaplain Bob Walker
I loved canned meat! Here is some HD river dancing. You remind me of the entire troupe. With less rhythm. Since you’re almost a branch in the breeze, blowing alone in the tundra. https://youtu.be/O53B0s_zao8?t=92 “How’s about a British jig and reel?” -The Clash, Straight to Hell, Combat Rock, 1982.
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Completely unrelated to this video, but who remembers this time last year?
“Spittle Bugs” Toxic! Danger! Ahhh! It’s Spittle bug season again. Mum’s the word. I guess it’s safe now! People are so forgetful!
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