The Bible is a book written about YOU. Christ is the CSF (Also known as Claustrum) that runs down your spine, from your pineal gland (heavens/God above) to your cocksix, if you live a good life and safe your ‘seed’ (NO Fap) sex but no orgasm, then the Christ Oil, returns every 29 days, lays dormant for 3 days, then enters the pineal gland 1000x stronger.
that is Hindu filth and not in the Bible. They call it kundalini and the Jews call it the SHEkinah aka Lilith. You never learn that filth from the Bible
Did you know the Catholic bible has a different ten commandments. They removed the second one about not worshiping graven images. They then split the tenth into two, the one about coveting. They created one about coveting you neighbours wife. They changed the very commandments which were engraved by the finger of God.
As a Christian I consider myself as a member of the church of Jesus. I follow the teachings of the Bible first, then consider what the church is telling me.
Jeff, the heresy that you promote on this issue, which denies that Mary is the Mother of God, is called the Nestorian heresy.
The Christian Church, that is the Catholic Church, condemned it in the fifth century. The Nestorian heresy, which you and many other non-Catholics hold, divides Jesus into two persons. It denies that Jesus Christ is a single Divine Person with two natures. Adherents of this heresy don’t actually believe that the Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity became man. Rather, they hold that Jesus was a man who was united to the person of the Son of God. Hence, they divide Jesus into two different persons or two different individuals.
To say that Mary is the mother of the man Jesus – but not of the Christ – is to deny that the man Jesus equals the Christ. But Scripture of course explicitly refers to the man Christ Jesus. The man is the Christ.
“…the man Christ Jesus.”
– 1 Timothy 2:5
Jesus is a single person. He is God and man and Christ. Your statement rejects a fundamental truth of Christianity that the man Jesus is the Christ.
“…before Abraham was, I am.”
– John 8:58
Further, to say that Mary is the mother of Jesus but not of God, is to deny that Jesus is God.
Now, the argument raised by heretics like you, is that Jesus existed before Mary and created her, so Mary cannot be the Mother of God.
But that argument only reveals how completely you fail to understand this issue and the Christian faith. What such heretics don’t get is that since Jesus Christ is one Divine Person with two natures, what is predicated of – that is, what is affirmed as an attribute of Jesus’ human nature – is predicated of or affirmed as an attribute of His Divine Person, the second person of the Holy Trinity, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature.
Let me say that again:
What is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – Jesus’ humanity is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – His Divine Person, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature, because:
“…the Word became flesh…” John 1:14
To put it another way:
Jesus’ human qualities, attributes, and experience truly belong to the one Jesus, who is God, even though they are not His divine attributes or predicated of His divine nature. That’s because Jesus, the Son of God, is one Divine Person with two natures. There aren’t two Jesuses.
Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-dot-endtimes-dot-video if you care for the truth, the honour of God and His Mother, and your eternal salvation.
Many people are very mistaken about the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the [true] Catholic Church [which must not be confused with the Vatican 2 sect of the 6 recent antipopes, including Antipope Francis].
True Catholics do NOT treat her as an idol or a goddess, but as the Mother of God and the mother of true Christians. She led a most perfect, sinless life here on earth and is our greatest role model and helper and intercessor in this valley of tears. God Himself wants us to have special devotion, love and reverence for her. He Himself chose her as His special daughter, His own mother and His immaculate spouse.
There is also abundant scriptural evidence, that Mary, as the new Eve and the Ark of the New Covenant, was graced with preservation from all sin from the moment of her creation in order to be a fit vessel for the God-Man Jesus Christ.
Please watch the video “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-endtimes-video and please stop spreading false claims. She deserves our love. Her greatest desire is to help us lead a life pleasing to God and to reach Heaven.
Hugo you should educate yourself more about Catholic Faith. This is your first video that partially strongly disagree concerning Our Lady, not long time ago you said that you bought a statue of Our Lady to help with evil attack on your close Family members and now this??! You beginning to sound more like Protestant Heretics. The Church itself has its own faults and problems in the past and after II Vatican Council but after all has survived over 2000 years. I recommend you to read a great book “ The Immaculata Our Ideal” by Father Karl Stehlin. “ I will place enmities between you and the woman, between your race and her race;she will crush your head and you will lie in wait for her heel(Gen 3:15).
“As she was the way by which Jesus first came to us, she will again be the way by which He will come to us the second time though not in the same manner.” “But why should Mary, of all people (and not Christ directly) conquer Satan? Because the devil fears her not only more than angels and men but in a certain sense more than God Himself. This does not mean the anger, hatred and power of God are not infinitely greater than the Blessed Virgin’s, since her attributes are limited. It simply means that Satan, being so proud, suffers infinitely more in being vanquished and punished by a lowly and humble servant of Go, for her humility humiliates him more than the power of Go. Moreover, God has given Mary such great power over the evil spirits that, as they have often been forced unwillingly to admit through the lips of possessed persons, they fear one of her pleadings for a soul more than the prayers of all the saints, and one of her threats more than all their other torments.”
Spot on!! Truth!
Biggest trick satan has played on most people is to turn them away from her!! Demons hate the “Holy rosary” And they laugh at the stupid people! Who turn their backs on her!! Fools! Pretending to be wise!
They tell us! Nothing is impossible with God! Then in the next breath deny (immaculate conception) Hypocrites!
The Holy rosary is a powerful weapon against demons!! I know! 2019 I had a calling to get a rosary had no idea, how to pray it. Baptised (church of England) man made! Me a sinner! Tattered and torn! All had forsaken me here on earth! But God never did!
I cried out to him for help in my battle against demons!! Then I had the calling! So I went found a church bought a rosary, went home, learned the prayers, wrote them down..
Little did I know it would change my life forever!
My first reciting (apostles creed) tears of joy! Started running down my face! I knew I was home! I fell to my knees! Looked up through my window to heaven! Kept saying! Sorry! Sorry! For the filthy rag I was! Then my heart burst open and all the hurt and pain came flooding out! I was euphoric with joy and pure love in my whole being! Filled with a love not of this world!! I was in the presence of purity!!
And I than God everyday! For sending the Holy Mother! So pure! And true! To me! I was ashamed! Of the man I was! I was attacked by demons, because of the holy rosary! Because I turned from sin! That same year halloween! For three days I had to fight with everything I had and just learned.. Horrible images, blasphemies in my head! I walked around the park for hrs on end saying : “Jesus loves me”
Hail Mary! Our father! I knew I was in a spiritual war! People have no idea! Of it! And how real it is! And without the “Holy rosary” to protect you! You have no defence! Demons cannot overcome the “Holy rosary” I lived it! As the images subsided and I was walking over the bridge. A “white dove ” came out of the sky and landed on the railing next to me! I smiled! Through my torment! I knew “God” was watching over me!
I got a bible, Crosses and prayed and prayed everyday for forgiveness!
Then the summer of 2020, “JESUS” heard my cries.. I will never forget that beautiful summers evening in my room..
My heart burst open and all I ever did came flooding out.. I felt a pure love around me! Tears running down my face! I confessed all! And forgive all!! Exhausted, naked at the foot of the cross!! Hallelujah!!
“Blessed virgin Mary” brought me to (Jesus).
So much I have seen and learned since signs and wonders! In my struggles!! I will defend the “Blessed holy mother” with all I have! No question! I know the truth of her! So beautiful! And pure! Conceived without sin!
There are many Angels, many saints, many martyrs! Only ONE (blessed holy mother)
Now I sin no more!! Celibate and sober! Of my own free will!!
Most on here! Have no idea! What they say!
They mock and scoff at her! Remember this! Fools! You will be held accountable! For every word your mouth speaks against “Mary”
“Thus Chosen daughter of God! Forever” Blessed by God ” all of us! Cannot hold a candle to her! This lady so pure and true!!
All you who mock Mary!
Shame on you all!!
Forgive them father for they know, not what they say!!
70 thousand witnesses at Fatims!! But you fools know better! Shame on you!! Not interested in your pathetic arguments!
Being wise you have become fools!! I have lived it! And Jesus! Truly! Hears me! I saw a. (perfect blue cross) in the clouds through my struggles, when I cried out in the courtyard of the church early 2020, at my lowest point! I said this prayer (God are you still with me or is my fight futile) these words are etched in my mind forever and so is Jesus and Mary in my heart and soul forever! When I looked up to heaven Jesus had answered me! With a blue cross in the clouds!! I sat there stunned! The cross was perfect! Magnificent!! I was walking around that day in a dream of heaven!
Our Lord and saviour! Had answered! A boy from nowhere!!
Jesus! Mary! I Love you! I Love you!!
My testimony!! Is true! So help me God!
God bless!!
Christ is king!
Did you say “The Holy Rosary” you folks amaze me. You want truth and squirm like worms when it’s being presented to you. What in the heck is a Holy rosary? That is an idol. How is the world is a Rosary, Holy. Its an object. Wow. You guys are completely blinded
You seem to talk more about Mary than Jesus who died on the cross for your sins. I don’t understand the fascination with her. She was a vessel only. And was favored by God.
For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God including Mary, Romans 3:23. Mary is not the mother of God, she was used to bring the messiah unto the world. God is the creator and so is Jesus who is the word of God John 1: 1-4. Christ created Mary so Mary can never be the mother of the creator as she was a created being.
Map, the heresy that you promote on this issue, which denies that Mary is the Mother of God, is called the Nestorian heresy.
The Christian Church, that is the Catholic Church, condemned it in the fifth century. The Nestorian heresy, which you and many other non-Catholics hold, divides Jesus into two persons. It denies that Jesus Christ is a single Divine Person with two natures. Adherents of this heresy don’t actually believe that the Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity became man. Rather, they hold that Jesus was a man who was united to the person of the Son of God. Hence, they divide Jesus into two different persons or two different individuals.
To say that Mary is the mother of the man Jesus – but not of the Christ – is to deny that the man Jesus equals the Christ. But Scripture of course explicitly refers to the man Christ Jesus. The man is the Christ.
“… the man Christ Jesus.”
– 1 Timothy 2:5
Jesus is a single person. He is God and man and Christ. Your statement rejects a fundamental truth of Christianity that the man Jesus is the Christ.
“… before Abraham was, I am.”
– John 8:58
Further, to say that Mary is the mother of Jesus but not of God, is to deny that Jesus is God.
Now, the argument raised by heretics like you, is that Jesus existed before Mary and created her, so Mary cannot be the Mother of God.
But that argument only reveals how completely you fail to understand this issue and the Christian faith. What such heretics don’t get is that since Jesus Christ is one Divine Person with two natures, what is predicated of – that is, what is affirmed as an attribute of Jesus’ human nature – is predicated of or affirmed as an attribute of His Divine Person, the second person of the Holy Trinity, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature.
Let me say that again:
What is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – Jesus’ humanity is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – His Divine Person, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature, because:
“… the Word became flesh …” John 1:14
To put it another way:
Jesus’ human qualities, attributes, and experience truly belong to the one Jesus, who is God, even though they are not His divine attributes or predicated of His divine nature. That’s because Jesus, the Son of God, is one Divine Person with two natures. There aren’t two Jesuses.
Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-dot-endtimes-dot-video if you care for the truth, the honour of God and His Mother, and your eternal salvation.
@martin
You can write a whole book about Mary. But it will not change the fact that God found favor with her and through the Holy Spirit she conceived Jesus. She cannot be the Mother of God. God already existed. Are you kidding me? A little common sense. Also. You are in satanic doctrine literally and you don’t want to face it. Why can’t you Catholics see what’s in your face. What surprises me is yall seek truth and when its given yall squirm like worms. Its time to leave that demon Church and worship the Father in Spirit and truth
I agree. God created Mary to be the mother of the Word Made Flesh. Why wouldn’t He make her perfect as the Ark of the New Covenant? To deny this is blasphemy against the Father. Mary gave us Jesus through the Holy Spirit both at His birth and at Cana and in His dying moments Jesus gave His mother to us.
Anyone who insults Jesus’ mother Mary blasphemes against Jesus and The Holy Spirit which is unforgivable.
No one is insulting her. You guys are a trip. We are merely saying she was chosen by God to give birth to the Messiah Jesus Christ. You are making her another Mary. You are making her an idol. Not the Mary of the Bible. Wow I keep saying yall are on here for truth and then squirm like worms when faced with the truth
@Martin Donovan I agree with every word you’ve written. I agree Hugo
please watch the video “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-endtimes-video and please stop spreading false claims. She deserves our love. Her greatest desire is to help us lead a life pleasing to God and to reach Heaven.
The Jewish ADL group says the Pope supports them. Funny how Pfeizer, J&J and Moderna all have “Jewish” CEO’s and the CDC too. Kosher Covid they should call it and the media too
Something interesting related to your observation regarding the unnatural ness of setting apart men in order to teach scripture and the results of this, visit Romans and see what takes place. Suddenly everything we’re seeing happen in this world starts to click in place.
Separate note, I was raised a Catholic; I served at the altar, I taught, I gave readings, I went to retreats, and all my children were baptized in the Catholic Church. For many years I was content with this, even though deep down, there were questions regarding this institution that had not yielded to me any sort of satisfactory answers. Then at one point as a young man I was shaken by something that made me stop going to mass. It wasn’t a crisis of faith, however – that I’ve never felt. It was just a revelation about the direction the church appeared to be heading.
When Pope Francis delivered his “moral obligation” speech over the pandemic, it sealed me in a way that prior to this, I hadn’t been fully convinced of. My mother is still very much Catholic and I can’t think of a better example of a practising Christian than this woman over the years. And I still feel as though a significant portion of Catholics are like this, and so I held out for people like my mother, unwilling to accept that just because I happened to disagree with the institution on several points, didn’t mean its followers were bad people. But I had made my decision to place my trust in God to see to my health, and I expected the vast majority of Christians to do the same, even though I was starting to see that this would not be the case, and in fact, it seemed as though the exact opposite was going to happen. Sure enough, by the time the Pope weighed in, I knew, deep down in the core of my soul, why I had been shaken up those many years ago.
When you look at the Catholic Church – indeed not just this institution but a vast majority of them – I invite you to see them the way Yeshua saw the Pharisees and Sadducees. Much as patterns repeat themselves in scripture, so – too – is this repeating itself, before our eyes. Holding authority over scripture gives the authority a sense of power that leads to corruption. People who would do good, instead become lead to work evil. If you can’t see this constantly repeating itself throughout history then you are utterly blind – stumbling about as though in the dark even though it’s noonday. The Lord said many would fall away. Many. More than those who manage to retain their faith, and endure the trials that await them. MANY. Pray that those you love and care about are not counted amongst these. Pray that you yourselves are not deceived, for Satan is not done, and it is only going to become increasingly difficult. And Pray that when the time comes, Yah gives you the strength to say what needs to be said, to those who need to hear it, with love and compassion, and not with hate or self-righteousness, because we’re all susceptible to the Fall at any point, if we’re not vigilant.
I don’t consider myself a Catholic any longer, no, but I will still accompany my mother to mass, and I will attend it on my own, from time to time. I’ll also pop in and see what’s going on with most denominations. To me, there are two sides to this as it unfolds: on the one side, there’s organized religion, with their particular doctrines and the abuses of power they seem to demonstrate fairly consistently, independent of whichever denomination happens to be in question; on the other side, there’s the understanding that scripture is what everything has been based off of, and that scripture is readily accessible by virtually anyone, if they had the wherewithal to go and seek it out. I was raised on scripture. It’s ingrained in me moreso than even the “stand, sit and kneel” rituals of the Catholic form of Christianity. Without the Catholic Church, I wouldn’t have been exposed to the truths of the Bible, but the same can be said of Baptists, Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists – you get the idea. The same scripture, but the interpreters of said scripture are whom I tend to view with the spirit of putting them to the test. I don’t test Yahweh. I test those who preach the Gospel. More and more, I’ve been finding that it’s not the teachers, but the active students of scripture, who seem to have the right of it. It might be a bias for the little guy or the underdog, but on the other hand, when has the Lord ever NOT chosen the unlikeliest of champions?
i don’t trust in christianity. jesus was king of the hebrews why aren’t we worshipping the same god he worshipped? christ ianity is jesus worship. the ten commanments tell us not to do it. i definetly believe higher entity’s wrote the holy scriptures but they have been manipulated. syncretism may be like an nwo agenda but in reality we are all under the same dome so i think it’s the truth. the nwo will have a warped version of the same religion no doubt.
It’s depends on what you mean by JudeoChristianity. Salvation is through the Jews whether folks want to accept that or not. If you are saying that Judaism and Christianity have nothing in common s far as beliefs you are correct.
Jesus is the Word of God who was with God in the beginning (John 1:1). He is deity and it’s not idol worship. You need to stop listening to the lying Jews.
Good video hugo, only thing that baffles me is, how can we trust the bible/a book…how had this book been aloud to stay present and trustworthy this whole time…they delete history over years and why not delete the bible if its true…..I just dont get how we should put our entire belief into a book called the bible.. who wrote it…who documented it…why are there numerous other religions that are not like christianity and they have there own faith and religions….why is christianity the true religion above all others…..I want to believe it i really do but how has the bible been allowed to stay relevant when we do not know it’s TRUE source..could be corrupt and part of the plan for all we know or a story..
Hugo I agree fully , I’ve asked similar questions in the past and now reading the bible I have no doubt of its truth . It teaches a spiritual journey / path , one needs to learn in life before the atlas is taken from them and they become lost souls in death .
It’s just a thought … we are told through history that humanity have always believed in a creator god ( s ) … but without the lord Jesus you wouldn’t have Mary and the Catholic beast movement … I’ll still read the bible because within is the true lesson of faith in god .
Put another way , step outside the box and look in … you have a female called Mary who is a virgin , generally speaking wouldn’t most virgin females be of a young age ( child )… ? Who has / carries a secret conception ( crime ) that someone called god told through a fairy in a dream that she can’t speak of . And the young lady has a child by god and when the time was right to enforce a message to the masses , that child was made a sacrifice . And from that day forward , the beast has tricked the majority into worshiping child sacrifice and honouring very young females who still are virgins … I remember someone commenting that in the Old Testament that one shouldn’t worship any image , and that the cross was such a image . If I’m right it would describe the horrendous crimes committed on children by Catholic priests , forced adoption / nunnery enrollment , crusades of violence , death destruction etc . Many truths within the bible .
Look…you need to read it yourself to find that out…you cannot just go and rely on anyone to tell you. If you think it’s worth it (everlasting life) then try it. I recommend the King James version (not New King James) – all others have been corrupted by the counter reformation – but don’t take my word. don’t put your trust in men but in God.
Why do you think the KJV is the best translation from the Greek? And what about translations into every other language? I agree that we need to be careful of modifications 1984 style but come on! Is KJV really the best translation for today?
Do you really believe that Satan is to powerful for God/Jesus. That Jesus can not and will not preserve his Word. This is His (The Bible) only communication to us. When you open The Word it tells His story like no other.
Read the MSTC – Modern Spelling Tyndale/Coverdale Bible —> https://studybible.info/version/MSTC it is word for word from the original gothic text…….Tyndale btw was martyred by the catholic (babylonion) church for creating this for the ordinary man.As for the authenticity of it this bible was the first translated into modern (then) English way before the masonic kjv changed it and every subsequent bible more or less copies the kjv.
I enjoyed reading Jason Bresheares’ book ‘the lost scriptures of Giza’. Whilst I don’t agree with him entirely, he provides some good evidence to support the theory that Christianity was the original religion (as in a saviour was coming and he would die and be resurrected and that he was connected to the religion of the Israelites.) He goes into Hinduism and Zoroastrianism and some religious beliefs of the old Americas. It centers around Egypt and Enoch. It’s an interesting theory that may explain why there are so many different religions and where they might have originated. It’s just a theory but it might be true.
I agree that the chatolic church have so many errors that it’s not even funny.
Many other churches also make up their own rules and everyone claim they have the ultimate truth and correct news and everybody else are wrong. It is man following man. Matt 15:13-14 If a blind man follows a blind man, both will fall into a pit.
I agree on the baptizm aswell. Even Jesus was baptized by John the baptist as an adult.
God bless Hugo and all
Other massive contradictions with Roman Catholic teachings are as follows;
1. Mary was a sinner because she had to have a sacrifice after the birth of Jesus as according to the Jewish days of purification (Luke 2:22)
2. Mary was not a perpetual virgin as Jesus had at least 4 half-brothers (James, Joses, Simon and Judas) and 2 sisters (Matthew 13:55-56)
3. The term Pope is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible! A term made long after the canonisation of Scripture by the end of the 1st Century, and Constantine’s merger of Christianity with paganism around 325 A.D.
4. So, Peter could not be the first Pope especially as he broke the rules on being married (Matthew 8:14 and Luke 4:38)
5. Unlike all Popes, Peter rejected worship from another man, the Centurion Cornelius (Act 10:25)
6. After the statement of ‘upon this rock’ to justify Peter as the first Pope (Matthew 16:18), he didn’t do very well initially as, only a few passages later, Peter was told to ‘get behind me, Satan’ by Jesus! (Matthew 23:9)
7. There is absolutely no biblical support of the existence of purgatory – when you die, if saved, you to straight to the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:8)
8. The mass is stated as a ‘perpetual sacrifice’ of our Lord, whereas sacrifices by priests can never take away sin (Hebrews 10:1, 10-12, 14)
9. The Roman Catholic Church is often best described as a ‘plus religion’; faith + works, Jesus + Mary.
10. Finally, and most importantly, the biggest difference is in the Gospel. In Christianity (not the same as Roman Catholicism), salvation is by grace alone by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone, as best outlined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (the deity, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus for our sins, by his blood atonement (Colossians 1:14))
Your spot on as usual. You are learning fast. The Catholic believe is that the Holy Communion, you are actually eating and drinking his blood. People say well that’s actually what it says in the bible. Jesus also says he is “The Door” and anyone who knocks, that door will be opened and you may come in. So does that mean he is a physical metal/wooden door with a handle?
They also believe Mary had no sin. She was perfect like Jesus. God states every man is a sinner. They seem to blur the lines.
Also because the Church (every church) has blurred the lines by mixing the four gospels and the other writings by the 12
apostles with the writings of Paul. Jesus stated for himself and the 12 Apostles…..”Do not go to the Gentiles”!! This was a commandment! Not a request. His mission was to set up His Kingdom on earth if ALL Jews would believe. They did not soooo, Jesus turned to Paul and it is STATED he is the Apostle to the Gentiles and then later the believing Jew. So why is everyone, Gentiles, reading Revelation and shaking in his boots. It”s for the Jew. It’s to forewarn him what’s to come. What will happen. We are out of here. Read your bible!! Do you really think that God’s chosen ones, he will force you to prove yourself one last time. You know, I (Jesus) know you believe in Me but I am going to send you through the worst hell just so I know for sure (He already said He knows what’s in our hearts). Then if you survive, then I will give you the heads up. That Revelations is your last stand to say, “God I Love You”. He is our Savior, our protector, our deliverer. Not our condemner! Isn’t our sins covered by his blood? The Bible says we are already seated with Him in heaven. But if you really want to go through hell?? Keep believing and maybe you will see it at first hand. For me I’m covered in the blood and I’m out of here unless He calls me yonder today.
A huge red flag you omitted is how the Catholics confess their sins. Catholics confess their sins to a priest. The Bible does not mention using a middleman for this. One is supposed to confess their sins to God.
Hugo, I get your point however same as Bojo and other shysters same the Pope won’t disappear from the scene. The hierarchy of CC has already inflicted a huge damage to their reputation by participation in the COVID agenda however majority of priests haven’t established vaccination centres at CC premises.
To be clear the Pope can recommend vaccines in the Vatican so the media can repeat it but I have not heard any Catholic priest to solicit vaccines in the church or during the mass.
If you think that Catholics blindly follow their priests or bishops you are mistaken. There is more wrestling between priests and laity than anywhere else. It’s primarily because it’s an active participation not like people passively watching BBC or people looking at Facebook, Twitter or YouTube where their comments are silently shadow-banned.
The Vatican has been hijacked before Francis, one Pope at the brink of Vatican II most likely has been poisoned.
I don’t think that Jesuits have always been like that. The original Jesuits have been wiped out and rebooted as something completely different.
Maybe it’s better that the evil people are focused on this man who they believe has been groomed no to oppose their agenda but go along.
Maybe it’s better for us that these evil people think they ticked all the boxes by hijacking the heads in the Vatican.
Besides what Francis says is one thing but written CC laws is a different story. He can say all sorts of things to please different groups of people. I bet if the Pope started saying something obviously against the Phoenician objectives you would have another Pope emeritus or in worst case a dead pope. Remember that 5 African leaders who denounced COnVID have been assassinated.
While the Satan’s eyes are on the Pope we should focus on our work and our parishes.
This is what matters not the big politics because it can get you killed and I am not sure if you are ready to become a martyr. Are you?
Have you been stress tested enough? Will your Bible quotes be enough?
Virgin Mary is not a false idol. I think you watched some of the Owen Benjamin’s stuff but even if I recommended him to get a different point of view this man is dangerous and most of his revelations can easily be refuted but he is clever and won’t allow for any confrontational debate so he can continue his tirades.
Virgin Mary has emerged as soon as the early heretics attacked her specifically to undermine Jesus Christ like Judaising followers of Arius (Owen Benjamin is not far from them) were denouncing both similar to today’s Muslims who treat Jesus just like another come-and-go prophet.
Imagine what else could happen if people like Francis didn’t allow evil to infiltrate the church the demons like Rothschild would lunch a full scale assault on the CC. In the past the Vatican has been invaded and plundered e.g. Sacco di Roma by the German emperor and later Garibaldi.
I bet that if Francis changed his stance the very next day Catholic priests / missionaries would not be able to enter many countries. It’s already difficult as the border controls ask for work visas.
Re celibacy I think again I have to repeat myself. There is no pastor on earth who can service that many followers. There is hundreds if not thousands of people per a single Catholic parish. These priests have tons of work on their hands (baptisms, 1st communions, confessions, marriage courses, marriages, home visits, counselling, funerals, they don’t have time for private life, especially for wives and raising own children. Do you get it?
Should every man and every woman have a wife or a husband? Should every couple have children?
Do all the people have wives and husbands? Do all the couples have children.
Of course they don’t and many couples have dogs or cats in place of children because it’s better this way.
Hugo, do you have a wife? Did the Catholic Church stole your wife?
Wives or husbands don’t fall of the sky and thanks to Virgin Mary there are the holiest women in the Catholic Church and even prostitutes know that.
Are the nuns locked up in the monasteries? Do you think the nuns are just sitting there like in prison?
Who do you think was running hospitals in the past?
Not happy with nuns? Ok so now you have a lot less nuns because they got husbands and you have NHS feat Pfizer to treat you.
Since when not showing up in the church is a sin?
CC wants you to follow their rules but you want to follow yours. And?
You should rely more on you imagination that some anti-Catholic videos. It won’t do you any good.
Do not let me doubt in you because you just keep repeating the shit of the Internet but no doubt the trolls who gather here will praise you.
By the way the same trolls that still haven’t disclosed their organisations (in case anyone wanted to join them instead of CC) which tells me are just hostile agents.
Not everyone has wonderful Christmas but it does not mean people should rebel. Even if we are bothered with thoughts that we don’t fit we should try to overcome those thoughts. Did you consider joining a Catholic charity? To see and help some homeless, sick or disabled people?
You would then have a better point of view that your situation is not bad after all.
As I said to you before practice humility because pride is always a serious obstacle and you should jump over it rather than cling on to it.
Where else do you go? Do you think going through life as a lone Bible guy is better or easier?
At the end of the day it’s up to you if you want to be just a Bible-only guy or follow the Catholic tradition.
I see you lean towards a Bible-guy because what it seems you didn’t have a Catholic upbringing – no First Communion, a Godfather etc. so it’s harder to engage with the Catholic community. I understand that. That is why it’s so important for CC to foster new generations because they know it’s much much harder for adult rebels or heretics or pagans to convert. It does happen but it’s not easy.
This is a very good post and very informative. People will no doubt attack you for this. I agree with some of what you say and some time ago I was considering converting to the Catholic faith. However, on doing some years of research, I now know, without a shadow of a doubt, that the Catholic Church was infiltrated by agents of the adversary, long before Vatican II. I lost all faith in religious organisations at this point. Further research has provided me with an alternative though. I have been told by a former Catholic priest, who left because of the absurdities since Vatican II amongst other things that he learned, that my non-Catholic baptism is valid in the eyes of the Catholic Church, and a thorough learning of a valid Catholic Catechism would be absolutely fine to practice by, as there are now no authentic priests left to administer the sacraments or to perform the Mass and other religious duties. It would be better, he said to me, to stay at home and practice authentic Catholic Christianity, than to mingle with others in what is now the counter-church.
I know but an opinion of one priest is not definitive. Was he a priest or Satan himself? Because normally this is what Satan would whisper to a person so he/she stays home and practice BBC/Netflix/Twitter/Facebook Christianity. There is no such thing as authentic home Catholic Christianity. You just do what the establishment wants, keep it for yourself. They want people to practice Christianity at home, what for most equates to no worship.
I mean tell it to children, to elders, to needy, to criminals, to prostitutes to stay home. Have you seen movie Silence 2016?
You lost faith in all religious organisations so it does mean you gained faith into the government and perhaps into intelligence agencies.
Why there are no authentic priests left? I cannot confirm this from my observations. Where do you see this?
Are you a Sedevacantist?
“Why there are no authentic priests left?” – Because after Vatican II the sacraments were changed. The Catholic Church has been infiltrated and is now in the hands of the adversary.
“You lost faith in all religious organisations so it does mean you gained faith into the government and perhaps into intelligence agencies” – Erm no.
“I know but an opinion of one priest is not definitive. Was he a priest or Satan himself?” – He saw the corruption and evil for himself and got out of the “organisation”
“Are you a Sedevacantist?” – I believe that the current pope is an agent of the adversary, and probably many more popes before him. Who knows how far the corruption goes back. The current Catholic Church is far removed from the original, both in its doctrines and practices.
@Mark, “The current Catholic Church is far removed from the original, both in its doctrines and practices.”
And there you have it, for Yashua Messiah promised that He would see to it that the gates of hell = The Adversary would not prevail against HIS ASSEMBLY – THE ECCLESIA = those called out = those set apart called and chosen ones who are only FEW in number!
@Mark
I only know the Vatican II church. I am not 60 or 70 years old to remember Vatican I.
Regardless of the changes I still hold it dear. It does not have to be perfect but is way way better than anything else I see so far.
Are your family members who remain Catholic also buffed about this whole corruption going back God knows how far?
In that case if not CC if you could recommend an alternative organisation that people should join.
As I said some personal, Bible-only form of Christianity can work but for very few.
God bless you Hugo, you took the path God led you to …. and you seem to be flourishing for it. I was concerned you were going down the RC pathway, but praise to the Lord, you see it for what it truly is. Read up on popes in the past, they’ve done some seriously disgusting stuff, as I’ve said in the past, and you have brought pictures to see, the vatican is based on serpent heads and pagan statues and symbolism. Happy New Year Hugo, with thanks and blessings to you.
The Catholic Church cannot be considered a Christian Church because the Catholic Church promotes a WORKS BASED SALVATION. the Bible in Ephesians 2 :8-10, Apostle Paul states “ For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” They believe that Jesus’ death on the Cross was not enough. Catholics add to the Cross good works, and following Catholic Dogma correctly. They add to the COMPLETE WORK of Jesus Christ who said just before He died on the Cross, “it is finished.” ( John 19:30). Meaning that His death, and resurrection was ALL that is needed to provide for our Salvation. Clearly the Bible states that a person’s Salvation is a FREE GIFT FROM GOD, and can IN NO WAY BE EARNED by a person doing “good works”, charity etc…
What must I do to inherit eternal life? Keep the commandments Go sell everything you have and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come follow me. Mark 10:17-21. Jesus’ own words.
“For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was ill and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me”
When?
“Whatever you did for one of the least of my brethren, you did for me”
“Truly I tell you whatever you did not do for the least of these you did not do for me”
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
Matthew 25:34-46
Jesus’ own words deny your thesis my friend.
The Jesuit’s were founded by Ignatius Loyola at the time of the reformation to destroy the reformation by whatever means or methods. At the time of the reformation the Catholic Church controlled the then known “Christian world” and the secular world. The reformation caused them to lose their control of the Christian world. They lost their control of the secular world in 1798 when the French General, Berthier,arrested and removed the Pope from his position. The Vatican treaty of 1929 gave them a secular state to reign…Vatican state.Since then they have been working to re establish themselves on the world stage as the religious and political power. As an adviser to governments and educational establishments ( think of all the Jesuit founded/run universities), they are insideously placing themselves where they can influence mindsets and develop leaders with their mindset. The Vatican has recently been “ascended” to a member state of the UN….The Vatican is not a Country. Now they can really exert their policies on climate change ( Sunday Sabbath…not the seventh day sabbath given to us by God), and communitarianism … No right to private ownership…. as Pope Francis wrote in his respective encyclicals Laudato Si and Fratelli Tutti. The Reformation occurred due to the false, coercive, oppressive and non Biblical teachings of the Catholic Church. Now that this current Jesuit Pope has the full attention and cooperation of the world leaders, we are going to see their true oppressive and coercive agenda come to the fore. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life…… He did not mention following the false statements of the richest establishment in the world (Vatican)
Thank you Hugo. I must admit, it is a excellent video.
According to Scripture, the Bishop of Rome, (the Pope), is the representative of Satan on earth. In Revelation 13 we read, I quote,
“1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”
In verse 5 it says “… all the world wondered after the beast.” And, as you said, in Revelation 18:23 we see that by her “… sorceries were all nations deceived.”
It is the first time in human history when ALL NATIONS have been deceived by this earthly power whose behind is none other than Satan himself. Now this prophecy is being fulfilled before our very own eyes when the whole world, (or all nations), unite in one accord and will very soon rallie against the remnant we find in Revelation 12:17 and 14:12. And in Revelation 13:15 says that those who “… would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.”
And this is not new as this has already happened in the past when the papacy persecuted and butchered millions of Christians simply because they did not acknowledge her supremacy or have owned a Bible. It is estimated that during the papal inquisition from 538 A.D.-1798 A.D., (so-called dark ages), between 50 to 100 millions Christians sealed their faith with their blood. This number is an estimation only, but the real number could be higher.
I’m not Catholic by any means, as I think that religious organisational structures are by default corrupt, but we do have to remember that the Church came way before the Bible that we have in our hands today. This Bible has been edited, changed and manipulated to suit certain agendas at certain points in history. That’s why we have so many denominations who can’t agree with each other. Also, the Church(es) has been infiltrated by the adversaries, possibly hundreds of years ago, if not longer. Picking out what is true and real from Scripture can be very difficult. Asking God for help through prayer is probably the only way for people of our time to find answers.
Churches argue because they’re ALL wrong when it comes to prophecy. But it’s all there and can be figured out if you read it right. Hint:. NO ONE is going to heaven. Not pre-trib and not at Christ’s 2nd coming. The rapture isn’t for another 1,000+ years.
@ Mark
We don’t get to pick and choose bits of the word of God. When we believe the gospel, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13). The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, He will lead you into all truth (John 16:13). Study everyday, (the more we study the more we will understand), believe it and pray for guidance.
Brilliant Summary Hugo, the fact that Mary was’nt a virgin as Jesus had siblings is one deception this organisation is spreading the other
being in the classic book ‘Foxes Book of Martyrs’ thousands of christians were persecuted by them in the 1500s because these true christians wouldnt believe in transubstantiation and the fact the physical body of christ wasnt actually the body of christ every time they consecrated is another porky pie, lets not mention purgatory !
Jesus’ “children” are a simple mistranslation from the Greek. No man would have touched the ark of the covenant on pain of death. Joseph knew that when Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Some of the comments left were not in the Bible but, the forefathers and scholars going back thousands of years came up with these things where it has been helping people and yes, 70,000 people saw the apparition of Our Holy Mother in Fatima. It was a rainy day and when the apparition showed what hell looked like with the swirling sun like object with tormented souls left the 70K people dry. Don’t you think the Queen of heaven deserves a little respect after giving birth to Our King.
She deserves the greatest respect and honour. She held God inside her pure womb for 9 months and raised Him with her love. She is the queen because she is the mother of our king. All generations will call her blessed. Nothing to do with Babylon you heretics!
I live in America. I used to go to a Lutheran church. I noticed my pastor doing an upside-down cross as a part of his closing invocation. Most priests and pastors seem to do that. The cross I am talking about is when they draw an imaginary cross with their hand. They start at the head and go down to about the nipple line. They then come up a tiny bit and drawn the rest of the cross. Pay attention to things like that if you go to any church.
@kfilly
Wow. I have been saying that for weeks now on Hugo’s blog. It’s in all Churches. The Masons run all the Churches. They also do their masonic handsigns in front on there blind congregations. You are blessed to be awake. Wow. I have shown people videos of these decievers doing their devil horns and pyramid handsigns and they don’t care.
For those who wants to know the Truth, learn about the differences between Catholicism and Christianity, and how the Roman Catholic Church is leading people to condemnation, please go to https://www.proclaimingthegospel.org
Interesting thought. I will keep this tidbit for future consideration. Personally, I always felt the “G” in Freemasonry most likely stood for “Gnostic” as in your moniker above. Have you indeed researched to see which has the most historical record? Morris
The Truth is, in these last days, there’s not a single church, Catholic or Protestant, that should be defended. They’re all corrupt and teaching lies. If you can’t see it then rub the scales off your eyes and do a study about what ALL prophecy says about the last days church. Especially the part that says Jesus is more likely to vomit you out of His mouth than want you in heaven. And this is a full-on repentant TRUE Christian saying these words.
@ Leslie.
You are the only one who has said the same thing as me in here. Not one Church can be trusted. Leslie thats why we must worship the Father in Spirit and truth like Jesus said the Father seeks. You know the verses I am speaking of. The true Church is very few. It’s very sad that so many follow blindly
Spread out all over the place. We are pretty much on our own. Unfortunately there are very few true Christians. Jesus is the one who said that. Not me. Narrow is way. Most know the scripture. I am sure you do. Only a few will find eternal life.
@LESLIE
I don’t think people take Jesus words serious enough. He said the road is narrow that leads to life and only a few will find it. I beleive his words. Like you said. He also will vomit you out. How terrifying is that? It scars me to death. The Bible is that we must each must work out our own salvation with fear trembling. I am terrified. I am not going to lie.
Jesus does not refer a building or ‘denomination’ he refers to HIS people ‘summoned’ or ‘called forth’ in righteousness following in his footsteps.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Matthew 16:18
ἐκκλησία (Ancient Greek)
Alternative forms
ἐκκλεισία (Thessalian)
Origin & history
From ἔκκλητος (“summoned”) + -ίᾱ (abstract noun suffix), from ἐκκαλέω (“to call forth, summon”), from ἐκ + καλέω. The τ changes to σ by palatalization and assibilation, triggered by the following ι.
Noun
ἐκκλησίᾱ (fem.) (genitive ἐκκλησίας)
assembly
congregation, church
church,
ἐκκλησίαν (ekklēsian)
Noun – Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong’s Greek 1577: From a compound of ek and a derivative of kaleo; a calling out, i.e. a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation.
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There seems to be a lot of discussion on the order of events in revelation. I have been unsure weather to get involved because it matters not what will happen unless you get yourself ready in righteousness first. This is far more important to understand and deserves all your attention rather than discussing ad-infinitum the series of events.
People have become bottles full of sour milk, they need to be emptied of that sour milk, rinsed out and filled with good milk. To understand the process is the most important thing.
You repent to Christ Jesus to clean away your old sins.
You clean yourself with the truth of The Word with the guidance of The Father (Spirit)
You follow the Commandments to not commit sin again.
You take protection by taking Christ Jesus within yourself at Passover.
You gain The Circumcision of The Heart spiritually.
You gain Salvation.
Sorry – off-topic, but relating to comments on the previous post. I have worked out how the new barcoded stamps are going to be used to check/stop what people are posting. When (hopefully, if) digital ID and the cashless society come in, people will probably only be able to buy stamps for their own use. The barcodes will be printed at the post office when someone buys stamps. The barcode will contain that person’s ID number. If that person upsets the powers that be, their letters will remain at the sorting office and will not be delivered. People will be fined, or otherwise penalised, if they are found to be letting someone else use their barcode stamps.
Excellent Hugo. Thank you.
Watch audiobook The Trail Of The Serpent which explains in great detail what 666 represents and its connection to the subject of today’s video.
Keep searching for the truth Hugo. You are on target with your comments about the pope. The Catholic Church and many others are being deceived by Satan. Ask God directly to show you more of His truth. If you are sincere He will answer you. He isn’t opening your mind for no reason.
Hi Hugo, Thanks for “Pharmakeia Pope” video. As an encouragement let me say you are pretty well spot on with what you say. I am nearly 70 now and was brought up as a Catholic, Catholic schools and church every Sunday so I’m pretty familiar with the routine. I left the Catholic church in my mid-teens and became a Born again Christian in my late 20s and since that time have studied the many major religions including the Catholic church. I have to say it is a cult and lining up to be the “One World Religion” as you say. The Bible is the word of God and the only way to be cleansed from sin is through Jesus Christ. Keep up the good work. Pete 🙂
isn’t the bible just another way of getting rid of freedom of thought and putting people into a control mechanism? you have all these different interpretations put out that are dividing humanity even further. I see it as a form of extreme conditioning that leads to wars and division
I guess it all depends on what a person considers a fulfilling life. Sin leads to really bad outcomes while living without sin has plenty of freedoms.
And there’s only one way to read prophecy and the reason they argue is because they haven’t figured out what it’s really saying. If they’re ever able to do that en masse, there won’t be any debate at all because there’s only one way of it all fitting together without contradictions.
But I wouldn’t hold my breath because prophecy ALSO says that in the last days (now) too many prefer the lies because it makes them feel good. You know, like going to heaven in a rapture that it’s NOT AT ALL saying.
But that’s no reason to reject the free gift of Christ and love Him enough to live without sin. Our salvation is up to each person individually.
A very small correction…and maybe I’m not fully understanding what you’re saying but the event itself, described in 1 Cor 15:50-54 is a real event. It’s just that everyone has the timing wrong and that it’s not to heaven.
Yes, you still have the wrong timing of it. It actually doesn’t have a thing to do with Christ’s return.
I know this is a touchy subject for us but the first thing a person has to do to understand the timing of all events is to agree that Rev 20:4-14 is all true and in chronological order.
Beginning with Christ’s kingdom not being able to begin until AFTER the trib because the people killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4-6.
Make sense? 2+2?
I will have to do some research on it. I won’t say your wrong because I don’t believe none of these preachers anyway. Most of them are doing their masonic handsigns while they are teaching. So I know they are lying 🤥
Well. It’s a dangerous book for you to be in and this guy with the last name Breaker is a big teacher on this and he is a 33 degree mason fooling everyone and acts like he is a man of God
Robert Breaker. And if you understand numerology and how these Masons work. They love the number 33. He once said there will be alot of one handed people walking around during the tribulation because once they get the mark they will regret it and cut there hand off. He really said that. He is an idiot. The funny thing is. Are the ones who get it in the forehead going to chops there heads off. Just a stupid guy and people actually listen to him.
Yeah, the trib’s gonna be a whole different deal from the vaxx thing where some people didn’t know better. The “world” is going to be spellbound and truly worship the beast. The ones who take the mark will do it gladly.
They will do it gladly. You are 100 percent correct. Most will fo it willingly. We will be the once that will resist and that will be very few to be honest
Putting the rapture aside because it’s not what I’m referring to but there will be a few chosen who will be protected in the wilderness. I’d rather be one of those. EVEN IF getting my head cut off would make me more blessed.
I agree. I don’t want to get my head chopped off but if I have to I will be praying hard at that moment. 🙏 I do recall Paul saying to die is gain. It’s to be next to Christ. I may not have the compete verse but you know what I mean
Please notice that Jesus said “the field is the world” where the good seed are the sons of the kingdom and the tares are the sons of the evil one. Jesus refers to these two bodies of people as two men and two women working in His harvest but are separated at the resurrection/rapture:
Matthew 24:40-42 Then shall two men be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: (41) two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left. (42) Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.
Small correction. The “one taken, the other left” isn’t the rapture. Notice it says the good seeds are the sons of the KINGDOM. And that’s what it means. His KINGDOM. NOT today’s church.
You may not want to hear this but Rev 20:4-6 is also true and we can know that Christ’s 1,000 year KINGDOM cannot begin until after the trib because the people killed DURING the trib are there.
And the rapture is for the flesh and blood people (the wheat) “at the end of the world” (Matt 13:38-39 where you were just quoting from) WHICH doesn’t “flee away” until after the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:7 & 11.
Yes those seed are those Jesus calls out out of all the apostate denominations into their wilderness:
John 10:1-5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. (2) But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. (3) To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. (4) When he hath put forth all his own, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. (5) And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
I am not looking at the “letter” but the “Spirit” of our Father’s Word:
2 Corinthians 3:4-6 And such confidence have we through Christ to God-ward: (5) not that we are sufficient of ourselves, to account anything as from ourselves; but our sufficiency is from God; (6) who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Revelation 20:4-14 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (7) And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, (8) and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (9) And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them. (10) And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (11) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat upon it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. (12) And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne; and books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of the things which were written in the books, according to their works. (13) And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (14) And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire.
Look. I don’t need you to write Scripture out for me. I know what it says.
You need to grasp the fact that since the beheaded souls killed DURING the trib are in His 1,000 year KINGDOM means that Christ’s kingdom CANNOT begin until AFTER the trib.
And that fact changes the timing of events that the preachers taught us.
But FORTUNATELY, makes ALL prophecy agree without contradiction, without adding or subtracting, and without having to change the word KINGDOM in Matt 13:38-39 into meaning “the church”.
The ONE olive tree was chosen from the foundation of the world in the Beloved who is Jesus sis:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
You’re just trying to use Scripture as an excuse to make up whatever you like.
Itching ears GARBAGE.
So just say Rev 20:4-6 is a lie and get it over with.
Just because you struggle with Revelation chapter 20 does not mean I do!!! Try reading my entire link and you will learn much that you did not heart from your apostate teachers!:
😆🤣. You kill me. Anyone who can’t see that because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are in Christ’s kingdom means His kingdom can’t begin until AFTER the trib is unable to add 2+2. Sorry, but it’s true.
Anyone who really cares about the Truth needs to understand that because it changes the timing of certain events ESPECIALLY the rapture.
You still don’t get it. The rapture is for the wheat in His kingdom at the end of the world His kingdom doesn’t begin until after the trib and this world doesn’t “flee away” until after the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:11. So where does that put the rapture?
Christ’s kingdom is a LIMITED number of years. There are flesh and blood people in it (Zech 8:3-5 and the judgment of the nations in Matt 25:31). It’s NOT the ETERNAL kingdom that flesh and blood cannot inherit.
The resurrection/rapture occurs here so that we can reign with Christ for a thousand years after overcoming the beast:
Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Dude, the SOULS LISTED in Rev 20:4-6 are resurrected dead people. They’re NOT raptured people. And the ONLY dead people LISTED in Christ’s kingdom ARE THE MARTYRS. DO YOU SEE that? Gma and Gpa aren’t listed?? And why aren’t they listed? it’s because the ONLY SOULS in the 1st resurrection are the MARTYRS. THE REST OF THE DEAD INCLUDING GMA AND GPA AREN’T LISTED !!
NOR ARE THEY THERE. Don’t ADD STUFF that isn’t there to fit your lies.
You need to read Rev 22:18-19 and pray for God to open your eyes!
STOP ADDING AND SUBTRACTING TO MAKE LIES!!!
Thank you for proving to me you have a very pathetic understanding of scripture!!! There is only one resurrection of the righteous dead after Jesus as the first fruits then they that are Christ’s, at his coming:
1 Corinthians 15:20-24 But now hath Christ been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of them that are asleep. (21) For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. (22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (23) But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ’s, at his coming. (24) Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
There can only be ONE resurrection/rapture of the ONE body of Christ who are the ONE olive tree who are those chosen in the Beloved from the foundation of the world:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
Paul clearly defined the resurrection as happening a split second before those who are alive and remain are caught up TOGETHER to our head who is Jesus over His ONE body!!!:
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; (17) then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
This passage does not give the reader the right to build a doctrine around it just because that reader can’t find some Christians who died a natural death like John did while on the isle of Patmos!:
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
You need to do some more study on who the number of a man points to as you clearly have no clue:
I don’t need you or anyone else to write Scripture out for me. I know what it says and I’ve figured out what it’s saying to where there are NO contradictions and without adding or subtracting or changing a single word.
*. Those who are His at His coming are the MARTYRS of the FIRST RESURRECTION. Just as Rev 20 says. “Then comes the end”….OF HIS KINGDOM when He delivers His KINGDOM…TO the Father. Get it? Christ’s kingdom is His KINGDOM, NOT the church.
*. 1 Thess 4:14 says GOD brings the dead in Jesus , NOT JESUS
*. 1 Cor 15:50 says the rapture is for the kingdom OF GOD, NOT Christ’s kingdom on THIS earth.
*. Matt 13:38-39 says the wheat are the sons of Christ’s KINGDOM, NOT the church.
*. The same verses say the tares are cast into the fire (same timing as the wheat being raptured) is at the end of the world and the world doesn’t flee away until AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS ARE FINISHED, Rev 20:11.
*. Jesus had to die to be resurrected. And 1 Cor 15:36 says ALL flesh has to die to be resurrected. The rapture is NOT A DEATH. DEATH is when you’re put in the grave.
AND NO ONE IS BETTER THAN JESUS!! What you people believe is BLASPHEMY!!
I’m sorry but ALL you people’s blindness has to be coming straight from God. No one could read what Matt 13:38-39 says and the order of Rev 20 and still believe the rapture has ANYTHING to do with Christ’s return. I’ll leave you to God. But it might be you’re already damned according to 2 Thess 2. Smh.
And the devil always has to change the subject when he’s full of it.
*. Matt 13:38-39 says the end of the WORLD. And Rev 20:11 AND 2 Pet 3:7 both tell us when this earth flees away and when it’s being reserved for fire. AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS ARE FINISHED….AND….WHEN THE UNGODLY ARE JUDGED.
*. And that’s not for ANOTHER 1,000+ YEARS.
Stop replying to me.
It should be obvious that the 6th Seal is describing Christ’s return. And the 7th Trumpet, Rev 11:17-18 says it’s when the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of God AND His Christ. “For He hast taken (past tense) His power and (ALREADY) reigned (Christ’s millennial kingdom)….verse 18 (which also shows the timing of the 7th Trumpet) says “when the dead shall be judged”….which is also at the end of the 1,000 years, Rev 20:12-13.
@Leslie Kendall But none of that takes away the fact that He will rule as King of kings and Master of masters on this earth for 1,000 years. And I know all about the Great White Throne Tribunal on the Last Great Day – I have kept ALL the Old Covenant Feast Days, in the past, which are a shadow of all these events.
I’m trying to show people when the rapture REALLY is and it’s SPECIFIC purpose but no one can ever grasp that Rev 20:4-14 is in order and follows the same order as all other prophecy.
@Leslie Kendall, There is no rapture. There is the First Resurrection when Yashua Messiah returns, and then there’s the Second Resurrection at the end of The Millennium when the New Atmosphere (Heaven) and the New Earth arrive.
1 Cor 15:50-54 is the event that we call “the rapture” so we can all easily understand what event a person is referring to. Don’t get lost in semantics.
Only when you twist everything. Having to change kingdom into meaning church. Having to make the 7th Trumpet the same as the 6th Seal WHEN Jesus returns at the 6th Seal and the angels RECEIVE their Trumpets AT the 7TH SEAL, Rev 8:1-2 WHICH MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE for them to be the same event.
I could go on with tons more of your NECESSARY CONTRADICTIONS to make your apostate scenario “fit” what everybody’s itching ears want to hear but you obviously prefer the lies. GOOD LUCK ON THAT “BEING BETTER THAN JESUS” THING.
Those entering the kingdom of God are the true church which is mount Zion:
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Luke 17:20-21 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: (21) neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
Hebrews 12:22-24 but ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable hosts of angels, (23) to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, (24) and to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better than that of Abel.
Sorry but there is not one scripture that proves Jesus returns at the 6th seal!
READ EVERYTHING I SAY.
Yes, one has to be born again to enter the kingdom OF GOD.
Christ’s kingdom on THIS earth is only 1,000 years AND HAS FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE in it (THE WHEAT IN HIS KINGDOM). I already gave you the verses . Christ’s kingdom is NOT the eternal, incorruptible kingdom OF GOD.
And the thrones in Rev 20:4 are for the judgment of the nations, Matt 25:31 to determine what FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE can stay in His KINGDOM with Him. Get it?
*. Christ’s kingdom when He rules the nations with a rod of iron begins after the trib and It lasts the ENTIRE 7TH “DAY”.
“After the 1,000 years have finished” THIS earth FLEES AWAY. And then God brings HIS eternal house, THE NEW JERUSALEM.
THAT’S what the wheat are being RAPTURED UP TO.
NOW, without writing a long list of Scripture that I ALREADY KNOW, TELL ME ONE THING that I said that isn’t EXACTLY what Scripture says!
And I love the way you people always leave out verse 14 in 1 Thess 4 because it doesn’t fit your nonsense, blasphemous scenario from hell. YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE!!….said the serpent to Eve AND TODAY’S CHURCH.
@Leslie Kendall, The Father is going to put ALL THINGS under Yashua Messiah’s feet, except Himself, so are you saying that will only be for 1,000 years and then He’s going to take it away from Him when the 1,000 years is finished?
Bear with me. It’s worth understanding.
1 Cor 15:25-28 says (and I’ll paraphrase)…”For CHRIST must reign UNTIL God puts all the enemies (of Rev 20:7-14) under Christ’s feet. The last enemy is death (and that’s exactly where Rev 20:14 puts that event). But God who put all things under Christ is excepted. So that when God puts all things under Christ, the Son ALSO will be SUBJECT to God so that GOD can be all in all” (in HIS eternal New Jerusalem (Rev 21:22, the only place it actually says they’re BOTH with us).
*. Two separate kingdoms 1,000 years apart.
@Leslie Kendall, It doesn’t say two kingdoms, for it is one continuous Kingdom in two phases – the Millennium, followed by The New atmosphere (Heaven) and The New Earth when The Father will make His home with Men – not hu-man beings (Canaanites). The Kingdom commences when Yashua Messiah returns to take King David’s Throne, and He will rule the earth from that Throne with a Sceptre of iron.
@Leslie Kendall, That’s wrong. The Kingdom of Yah commences upon His return to this earth, NOT when the Millennium is over. Yashua Messiah will take King David’s throne which The Father will give to Him
Luke 1:32 He shall be Great, and shall be called The Son of The Highest: and The Yahavah Yah shall give unto Him The Throne of His father David:
David’s Throne will not be on the new earth, but here on this earth.
God gives it to the Son but God Himself isn’t “with us” until He brings the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
Again, here’s the order:
* Christ’s rule of the nations begins after the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4.
*Jesus then rules the nations for 1,000 years, Rev 20:4.
REV 20:7….”AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS ARE FINISHED”….THIS earth “flees away”, Rev 20:11.
*. And THEN GOD brings the ETERNAL New Jerusalem on the NEW earth, Rev 21:1, and is with us there forever, Rev 21:22.
@Leslie Kendall, You have zero Spiritual understanding:
John 14:17-20 (MCV) 17 Even The Spirit of The Truth; whom The System (the world) cannot receive, because it sees it not, neither knows it: but ye know it; for it dwelleth with you, and it shall be in you. 18 I, Yashua Messiah, will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you (through my Set Apart Exclusive Spirit). 19 Yet a little while, and The System (the world) will see me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day (when you are born of Yah) YE SHALL KNOW THAT I AM IN MY FATHER, AND YE IN ME, AND I IN YOU.
“*Christ’s rule of the nations begins after the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4.”
If Yashua Messiah is RULING then His Kingdom has commenced, for He will be enthroned upon King David’s Throne. You are making a division where there is no division, just continual rulership from day 1!
The difference between the 2 kingdoms as given in Rev 20.
* Christ’s reign (by Himself) in Jerusalem is on THIS earth. It includes flesh and blood people in it. It only lasts 1,000 years, it mirrors the seventh “day” of Creation.
*. The kingdom OF GOD is when God AND His Christ reign in the NEW Jerusalem on the NEW earth. Flesh and blood cannot inherit it. And it is eternal.
That’s what ALL Scriptures say. I don’t care what the lying pastors told you. If you can’t read Rev 20 AND ADD then I can’t help you.
@Leslie Kendall, I have already rebutted your drivel in an earlier comment! Get it through your thick head that there is ONLY ONE KINGDOM OF YAH! and I have no bird brained know-nothing pastors, but no doubt you do!
Yes, there’s only one kingdom of God and it comes on the new earth after the 1,000 years and all the events of Rev 20:7-14 are finished.
If you disagree with what Rev 20 is saying then CALL IT A LIE and be done with it. I’m just showing you what SCRIPTURE SAYS.
@Leslie Kendall, I won’t call any Scripture a lie, unless it’s spurious like 1 John 5:7, but I will call out misinterpreters and their errors.
Once more – The Kingdom of Yah commences when The Father gives King David’s throne to Yashua Messiah, when He returns to this earth. You admit that He will be reigning throughout The Millennium, so if He’s reigning then He has a Kingdom which He reigns over – it cannot be simpler = KING of kings!
Yes, Jesus has a kingdom He’ll be reigning over. And at the end of THAT 1,000 years is Gog-Magog, the judgment of the ungodly, THIS EARTH FLEEING AWAY, and Death and Hades being cast into the fire.
SO UNLESS you can show me a Scripture that says there are two earths existing at the same time, THEY’RE TWO DIFFERENT KINGDOMS ON TWO DIFFERENT EARTHS.
And how exactly do you people figure Satan can be released from a pit if the earth he was bound in NO LONGER EXISTS?
You people are such a waste of time. Try reading prophecy with some COMMON SENSE.
@Leslie Kendall, Yashua Messiah NEVER does anything by Himself, The Father is ALWAYS with Him, and He will be reigning, that is, The Kingdom of Yah with His Elect – as kings and royal priests, plus the angels.
No. “For Christ (by Himself) must reign UNTIL….
If God was with Jesus in His millennial kingdom it wouldn’t say UNTIL. Until WHAT? Until something better than God comes along? No.
“Then comes the end” (of Christ’s reign) when He delivers the kingdom TO the Father”, 1 Cor 15:24.
@Leslie Kendall, You cannot see the wood for the trees. IF He’s going to give The Kingdom to His Father then The Kingdom MUST already exist and He has been ruling it as King of kings for a 1,000 years, so The Kingdom just continues under The Father’s rule on the New Earth, which He in turn has already given to His Son.
No shit, Sherlock. We’re saying the same thing. TWO SEPARATE KINGDOMS THAT BEGIN 1,000 YEARS APART.
* The distinction matters to show people when “the rapture” REALLY takes place., when THIS earth REALLY “flees away” etc. BECAUSE the events in Rev 20:7 through 14 happen IN BETWEEN THE TWO KINGDOMS.
@Leslie Kendall, Yes two phases or ages or eras of the ONE KINGDOM! and both eras will have physical beings, otherwise there would be no need for a new atmosphere (Heaven).
@Leslie Kendall, So when and where is the Second Resurrection and The Great White Throne tribunal going to take place which will definitely be a physical Resurrection.
Oh and on THAT THRONE will be seated Yashua Messiah ruling His KINGDOM of Yah – The Kingdom that commenced 1,000 years before!
Do you remember when Jesus was being baptized? God spoke FROM HEAVEN. God wasn’t physically here when Jesus was here the first time so the two AREN’T ALWAY together.
God wasn’t here physically the first time and God won’t be physically here when Christ reigns UNTIL…
@Leslie Kendall, The Father was watching over His Son 24/7 365 days of the year, even before His Baptism. After His Baptism He was indwelled by The Set Apart Exclusive Spirit, hence The Adversary could then recognise Him and came and tempted Him.
This lets you know that The Father was with Him ALL the time, after His Baptism, and only left Him at the point of His death Hence He cried out: “My Yah, My Yah, why hast thou forsaken me” Matthew 27:46.
@Leslie Kendall, Yashua Messiah will be both physical and Spiritual when He returns, just as He was after His resurrection and showed Himself to His Learners, but with the ability to vanish from their sight or appear to them out of nowhere as in the locked and closed upper room.
@Leslie Kendall, ALL of what I say is relevant to this conversation, and there has been no change of subject. ALL of it is education for you and those reading these comments.
And I’m trying to show people that the Seals and Trumpets agree with that order (Rev 20). Jesus RETURNS at the 6th Seal.
And “the kingdoms of THIS world become the kingdoms of our Lord God AND His Christ at the 7th Trumpet A THOUSAND YEARS LATER.
@Leslie Kendall, I am not getting into the vials, trumpets, seals and woes, as that’s a minefield and sheer guess work. When they happen we’ll then know!
The Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls aren’t so difficult when you understand the order of Rev 20.
*. Jesus returns at the 6th Seal.
*. The angels RECEIVE their Trumpets at the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2.
And therefore the Trumpets are a part of God’s wrath.
*. And God brings the New Jerusalem on the new earth 1,000 years later at the 7th Trumpet.
Same order as Rev 20. And same order as 1 Cor 15.
This is after the 1,000 years and Gog-Magog have surrounded “the camp” of Jerusalem….”and fire came down FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN, and devoured them”, Rev 20:9.
Thank you for proving just how little you study our Father’s Word!
Jesus’ kingdom is eternal just as the Holy Spirit told us thru Peter:
2 Peter 1:10-11 Wherefore, brethren, give the more diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never stumble: (11) for thus shall be richly supplied unto you the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
The kingdom of our Father is the kingdom of Christ for they are one in the same!:
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know of a surety, that no fornicator, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God(the Father).
The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of our Lord(the Father), and of his Christ: and he(Christ) shall reign for ever and ever:
Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there followed great voices in heaven, and they said, The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of our Lord(the Father), and of his Christ: and he shall reign for ever and ever.
This passage proves the souls in heaven whose bodies are presently in the earth our Father will send with Jesus to receive their incorruptible resurrected bodies as those alive and remain will be changed in the twinkling of an eye:
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them(the souls) also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him(JESUS).
Since you couldn’t help yourself, READ ALL OF THIS AND LOOK UP WHAT I SAY THIS TIME.
YOU’RE NOT BETTER THAN JESUS!!!!!
You need to look at the first 2 verses of 2 Pet 1 where it makes it more clear that he’s talking about God AND Jesus. And that it’s talking about the same thing in verse 11…our LORD GOD AND our Savior Jesus.
*. Same thing in Eph 5:5….the kingdom of Christ AND God.
* 7th Trumpet…kingdoms of our Lord GOD AND His Christ.
*. 1 Thess 4:14…”…those that sleep in Jesus will GOD BRING with Him”.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE ALL SCRIPTURE AGREE. And they’re not BOTH here until after THIS earth “flees away” and GOD brings the new earth, Rev 21:22.
* Christ’s millennial kingdom at the end of the world does NOT mean “the church” when Jesus returns..
*. You have to make all Scripture fit the order of Rev 20. It’s the clearest order of events we’re given.
*. READ 1 COR 15.
VERSE 24 “then comes the end (of Christ’s reign) when He delivers His kingdom TO the Father,”…..TO the Father.
Get it? God isn’t here yet.
And it’s NOT the church. “Je delivers His KINGDOM”.
And verses 25-28 are saying “Christ must reign UNTIL”, NOT FOREVER….UNTIL!
Until God has put all things under Christ and then CHRIST ALSO BECOMES SUBJECT TO GOD. So that GOD, NOT Jesus, can be all in all.
Christ reigns BY HIMSELF on THIS earth for 1,000 years and THEN they BOTH reign in the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
*. You’re not looking up ANYTHING I SHOW YOU.
The thrones of Rev 20:4 is the judgment of the nations, same as Matt 25:31. FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE to decide who can be in Christ’s millennial KINGDOM.
*. IT’S NOT THE KINGDOM OF GOD THAT FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT!!
* You’re NOT better than Jesus.
Believe as you wish but those counted worthy will reign with Jesus in the coming millennial kingdom:
2 Timothy 2:11-12 Faithful is the saying: For if we died with him, we shall also live with him: (12) if we endure, we shall also reign with him: if we shall deny him, he also will deny us:
Revelation 5:9-10 And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, (10) and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon the earth.
The “first resurrection” takes place BEFORE the millennial reign so we can REIGN with Jesus!:
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Yes, the first resurrection of THE MARTYRS takes place before the millennial reign. EVERYBODY ELSE is still in the flesh, Zech 8:3-5 and Matt 25:31. LOOK IT UP.
* Rev 20:6. The first resurrection ONLY lists the MARTYRS. Who are gathered out of HEAVEN at His return, Matt 24:31.
Don’t add words (or souls) that AREN’T THERE.
*. ALL flesh has to DIE to be resurrected (1 Cor 15:36) UNTIL Death is cast into the fire AFTER the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:14. And the rapture that happens at the END of Christ’s millennial KINGDOM is NOT “a death”. It’s INSTANTANEOUS. DYING is to cease living and be put into the ground.
*. NO ONE is better than Jesus. And Death has power over ALL flesh until he’s cast into the fire. That doesn’t mean that everyone before YOU and everyone after YOU has to die and that YOU are excepted, it means ALL flesh.
Again the “first resurrection” takes place BEFORE the millennial reign:
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Sorry but the “first resurrection” includes every branch of the ONE olive tree such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David and many other OT saints who died of old age but clearly had a testimony worthy of reigning with Jesus during the millennium!
Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
When one examines verse 6 with this passage in the first chapter of Revelation it is very clear that everyone loosed from our sins by the blood of Jesus are priests who will reign with Jesus for a thousand years:
Revelation 1:5-6 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us from our sins by his blood; (6) and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto his God and Father; to him be the glory and the dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
You clearly need to ask yourself why those who multiply what is given to them get to reign over 10 cities:
Luke 19:16-17 And the first came before him, saying, Lord, thy pound hath made ten pounds more. (17) And he said unto him, Well done, thou good servant: because thou wast found faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
“kings and priests unto GOD the Father”. The Father isn’t here during the millennium.
* And yes, Dan 12 says there will be many dead of DANIEL’S PEOPLE resurrected at the timing of the first resurrection. And Rev 18:20 & 24 also say it’s ALL of the MARTYRS who have died for Jesus.
*. I’m just trying to keep it simple because my main concern is people thinking they’re better than Jesus by getting raptured before the millennium. THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN. The rapture is about WHEN Death is cast into the fire at the end of the millennium…..when the dead rise first and the wheat in His KINGDOM are raptured up to GOD bringing the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
So now the Father is not here during the millennial reign???
With every reply you make you prove you know little about our Father and His Spirit:
Psalms 139:7-10 Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? Or whither shall I flee from thy presence? (8) If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: If I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. (9) If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; (10) Even there shall thy hand lead me, And thy right hand shall hold me.
1 Cor 15:24. “Then comes the end (of Christ’s millennial reign) when He delivers His “kingdom” TO the Father”.
* Rev 20:9….after the 1,000 years are finished….”and fire came down FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN and devoured them”.
YEP, THAT’S WHAT IT SAYS. GOD ISN’T IN Christ’s millennial kingdom BUT STILL IN HEAVEN until God brings the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
Now for the 2nd time today, GO AWAY. You’re a complete waste of my time.
You’re now not just better than Jesus, the entire apostate church that will be vomited out is also as prized as Enoch and Elijah. Sure.
And Christ’s kingdom means today’s apostate fallen away church. Okay. And God wants the apostate church in heaven with Him. Uh-huh.
And Rev 20 is a lie. Gotcha.
I believe you’ve cleared it all up for me. Thanks.
When 1 Cor 15 says there’s an order to the resurrections it means DEAD people. The rapture isn’t a resurrection. And the ONLY DEAD people in the first resurrection are the MARTYRS.
Christ is coming ONE time in the clouds to resurrect His body as ONE body of those who will reign with Him in His kingdom where all the previous authority of natural men will be abolished:
1 Corinthians 15:21-24 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. (22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (23) But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ’s, at his coming. (24) Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
Revelation 14:13-16 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from henceforth: yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; for their works follow with them. (14) And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw one sitting like unto a son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. (15) And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. (16) And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Yes there will be a few in number raptured compared the many who will be resurrected by the end of the last 7 years of tribulation:
1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him. (15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; (17) then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
But that does not exclude them from being a part of the ONE body of Christ chosen from the foundation of the world:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
You need to do a lot more study as your theology is full of holes on who make up the ONE body of Christ:
Yes, there’s an ORDER to the resurrection of THE DEAD. And “those (DEAD) who are His at His coming” are THE MARTYRS of the first resurrection.
YOU’RE NOT BETTER THAN JESUS! What’s the matter with you?
“ALL flesh has to DIE”, INCLUDING JESUS, “to be resurrected”…..BUT NOT YOU?? GET A GRIP.
*. And yes, Jesus is coming back TO STAY, NOT to take an apostate church back to heaven. NOT to “wait it out” in the clouds and NOT to tell Death to close His eyes and count to 10 so YOU can be better than Jesus Himself.
Just STOP IT.
I”m telling you, you’re believing THE SAME LIE that Eve did in Gen 3:4.
To be raptured into the clouds with the resurrected does not make anyone better than Jesus anymore than men such as John who died of old age when the rest of his fellow disciples were martyred:
John 21:19-23 Now this he spake, signifying by what manner of death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me. (20) Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; who also leaned back on his breast at the supper, and said, Lord, who is he that betrayeth thee? (21) Peter therefore seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? (22) Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. (23) This saying therefore went forth among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, that he should not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
Enoch was not better than Jesus yet he never died:
Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Elijah was not better than Jesus yet he never died:
2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, which parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
You clearly do not know nearly as much as you boost about knowing!
You’re not better than Jesus and the rapture is for the wheat in Christ’s KINGDOM at the end of the world (Matt 13:38-39), that “flees away” at the end of the millennium (Rev 20:11). You know, the KINGDOM that has TARES in it, too. And God is still in heaven during the millennium, Rev 20:9.
The rapture in 1 Cor 15:50 is for the kingdom OF GOD, the New Jerusalem on the new earth and the new earth doesn’t come until after THIS earth “flees away” after the 1,000 years are finished.
*. The people in 1 Thess 4:14-17 are the wheat in Christ’s KINGDOM at the end of SEVEN thousand years rising up to meet God and the New Jerusalem on the new earth where the dead in Jesus have risen to first.
* You turn all Scripture onto a contradictory lie. You add and subtract, changing words into what they’re not.
READ REV 22:18.
You never even asked me the purpose of the rapture if it wasn’t to take the last days apostate church to heaven. I’ll keep that to myself. It would only confuse you more.
Sorry but you have no meat to offer me but definitely a lot of sour milk!
You are trying to create confusion with your multiple times the ONE body of Christ is gathered into the clouds but no one is buying it but your delusional mind!
Try actually follow our Father’s method for being weaned off the milk and you may start understanding the meat:
Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts? (10) For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.
The people being raptured are the wheat at the end of Christ’s millennial KINGDOM, Matt 13:38-39, not today’s apostate fallen away church that believes in doctrines of devils.
*. Btw, who are the people that Jesus will be Shepherding from the midst of Carmel to Gilead and Bashan when He returns? Micah 7:14.
*. And who are the people in Isa 35:3-4 who later walk to Zion in verses 8-10?
They are the ONE olive tree also called the ONE body of Christ chosen from the foundation of the world in the Beloved who is the Word who became Jesus:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
Go ahead and keep trying to confuse the gullible but I ain’t buying your perversion!:
Micah 7:14 is after Christ’s return and they weren’t raptured. Could you be more specific who they are? And why is Jesus and all of them there? How long do they stay there before walking to Zion?
This passage is taking place now as a repeat of when Moses led the children of God out of Egypt only this time it is a global phenomenon:
Micah 7:12-15 In that day shall they come unto thee from Assyria and the cities of Egypt, and from Egypt even to the River, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain. (13) Yet shall the land be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings. (14) Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thy heritage, which dwell solitarily, in the forest in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old. (15) As in the days of thy coming forth out of the land of Egypt will I show unto them marvellous things.
The whole purpose of the tribulation is to separate the wheat from the tares in the church so only the wheat is taken to the barn and the tares left on the earth for the burning:
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.
The true church is presently fleeing the apostate world and church to be fed by the “they” in the wilderness which is the table before mine enemies:
Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there THEY may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Of course there is going to be flesh and blood souls who inhabit and repopulate the earth during the millennial kingdom but it will only be the few our Father allows to live through the last 7 years of tribulation and year of wrath. It will be those who have rejected the beast but didn’t have a relationship with Jesus:
Isaiah 13:10-13 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light; the sun shall be darkened in its going forth, and the moon shall not cause its light to shine. (11) And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity: and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. (12) I will make a man more rare than fine gold, even a man than the pure gold of Ophir. (13) Therefore I will make the heavens to tremble, and the earth shall be shaken out of its place, in the wrath of Jehovah of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
Your continued assertion that Revelation 20 dictates a complete timeline from today through the end of the millennium only proves how little you understand how our Father teaches the meat of His Word:
Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts? (10) For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.
Let’s just agree to disagree and watch my timeline begin to unfold just as all the precepts from here a little, there a little prove then you will have my link to consult:
Micah 7:14 is not happening now. It happens AFTER His return. It’s not some sort of invisible metaphor, it’s REALLY going to take place.
It will mirror the Israelites in the wilderness (gee, where have we seen that in prophecy?) AFTER Christ returns.
And the good seeds are the sons of Christ’s KINGDOM, NOT the church.
WHY do you change the meanings of words to create a LIE?
“the sons of the KINGDOM at the end of the WORLD”. It says what it means and means what it says.
“Jesus is there now”…GOOD GRIEF.
Pay very close attention as Jesus is clearly saying the good seed are the sons of the kingdom in verse 38 and then in 43 clearly calls that kingdom His Father’s kingdom!:
Matthew 13:37-43 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; (38) and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; (39) and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. (40) As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world. (41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.
Peter clearly told us that the world in Noah’s day being mankind perished thru water but most men today will perish from this world through fire during the wrath of the Father and His Lamb:
2 Peter 3:5-7 For this they wilfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth compacted out of water and amidst water, by the word of God; (6) by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
This is like trying to teach a baby Christian:
Hebrews 5:11-14 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard of interpretation, seeing ye are become dull of hearing. (12) For when by reason of the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need again that some one teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food. (13) For every one that partaketh of milk is without experience of the word of righteousness; for he is a babe. (14) But solid food is for fullgrown men, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
Matt 13
38) sons of the KINGDOM, NOT the church.
39 & 40) harvest = the end of the WORLD which doesn’t happen until REV TWENTY ELEVEN.
41) “gather out of His KINGDOM”, again NOT the church.
43) “THEN”, “THEN”, “THEN”, meaning AFTER THAT, the righteous will shine in the kingdom of THE FATHER, THE NEW JERUSALEM.
And THAT’S exactly why you have to LIE and say “the church” is the first kingdom because it’s CLEARLY talking about TWO different and separate kingdoms.
2 Pet 3
VERSE SEVEN:. “being reserved for fire on the day of judgment of UNGODLY MEN” which is AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS, REV TWENTY TWELVE AND THIRTEEN.
And you’re right. It’s like trying to teach A BABY that won’t LOOK UP ANYTHING that won’t agree with their LIES.
It simply amazes me how many have an opinion but so few are willing to put their beliefs in a freely accessible site so as to be understood where they are coming from:
I have cited EVERY VERSE that I say. YOU are just too stubborn to look things up to see that Rev 20, Matt 13:38-39, 2 Pet 3:7, and the order of the Seals and Trumpets ALL AGREE.
Just stay in your confused contradictory blindness. GOD’S WILL BE DONE.
Harvest, reap, and gather are all synonymous with bringing the good crop into the barn at one time before the millennial reign so we can reign with Christ during that millennium:
Matthew 13:37-43 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; (38) and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; (39) and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. (40) As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world. (41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.
Mark 13:24-27 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, (25) and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken. (26) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory. (27) And then shall he send forth the angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Revelation 14:14-16 And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw one sitting like unto a son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. (15) And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. (16) And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Well Rob. I tend agree with you on the this subject but I really don’t worry myself to death about when its all going to take place. All I know is Jesus told us to be ready. Some folks want to shut you down when you start shoving facts in their face See I feel the same way you do. Why does Noone challenge the Thetruthnotdoctrine guy on his serpent seed doctrine. Most just let the guy call the jews literal serpents and don’t put up a challenge.
I had a few rounds with “thetruthnotdoctrine” guy but he is just as stubborn with his false doctrines as Leslie.
I usually just post a comment on Hugo’s videos and ignore all the discussion but I decided to go on with this Leslie for a bit but am about to shut it off with him as well.
I stand by my website as much as Paul stood by his letters:
I”m not a “him”. I’m an old woman who can comprehend what is written and can put what is written together to where it ALL agrees rather than creating CONTRADICTIONS just to satisfy your EGO. ANYTIME you want me to submit, I WILL. You’re the blind leading the blind. You can’t ADD 2+2 nor do you have one whit of COMMON SENSE.
🙄. You, Rob, are going to go through the trial….if you live that long. MARK MY WORDS. Yep, you’re better than Jesus and SO MUCH better than me. Ditch the ego issues, my dear.
I trust you more than most on here that for sure. Just so you know. And I am very particular. And I know you understand why. Heck I think I find someone who loves Jesus and then find out they stuck in the blasphemous book of Enoch. A true Christian should know automatically
Yea I never could figure out why anyone wants to wander off in to other books when our Father’s Word is so deep we will never get to the bottom of all the truths!
@rob.
There should never be a reason to wonder off in other books Ever. No excuse. The book Enoch itself is a fable. Literally. And full of contradictions. And these supposed Christians do not care.
I’ll leave you two little boys to yourselves now. Don’t forget, You’re better than Jesus and YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE. Am unsubscribing from this thread now so you can save your lies for someone else.
Yes I agree! I haven’t read another book in years! Father had me read the NT thru every 2 months since my 20th birthday. Being 57 that is well over 200 times. I read the OT as well but not to that pace. It simply amazes me how someone can claim a person thinks they are “better than Jesus” by simply proving there are souls such as Enoch and Elijah who did not die before entering heaven. Her eyes will hopefully be opened by the time the beast system is fully engaged which looks very likely to be by 2025:
@Rob.
I am sorry I retired last night. But I am going to check out your link. They are definitely setting up the beast system and yes it’s very close. I have always told my wife for some reason I feel like my death will be by beheading. A terrifying thought non the less.
Anyway as far Enoch is concerned I have read and read and read that passage and get nowhere that God took him directly to heaven. He did walk with God as many others did. And here is the passage. It never says where God took him. Flesh and blood cannot enter heaven. It’s seems to me he died. That’s exaxlty what I get from it.
I believe the answer is found in what was said about the rest of the genealogy found in Genesis chapter 5 where all of them died with the exception of Enoch where God took him:
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
Genesis 5:8 and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
Genesis 5:11 and all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
Genesis 5:14 and all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
Genesis 5:17 and all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
Genesis 5:20 and all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Genesis 5:27 and all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
Genesis 5:31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
This is proven where the Holy Spirit thru Paul told us that Enoch was translated which could only possibly mean taken to heaven with God for being very well pleasing to Him:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
I would have to assume that Enoch was changed such as Paul describes here to those who are alive where God makes them incorruptible and immortal:
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Proof that Translated Does Not Mean “ MADE IMMORTAL”
But what about Enochs translation in Hebrews 11:5? Doesn’t that mean he didn’t die?
That’s what most people carelessly assume without proof. The Bible does not say that Enoch went to heaven OR WAS MADE IMMORTAL when he was translated. Instead, it says he “was not found.” According to the applicable websters dictionary, “translate” means “to put or place in another place, to transport, to transfer.” Nowhere in the Scripture does ‘translate’ mean to make immortal!
Ask anyone that speaks more that one language and can translate a speech from language to another language in writing on paper which is called an TRANSLATION, even they know translation HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MAKING SOMEONE IMMORTAL
We even have different TRANSLATED versions of the bible, which again HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MAKING SOMEONE OR SOMETHING IMMORTAL
Translated is Defined: TO MOVE from one place or condition to another.
Noun i.e A PERSON (aka ENOCH), place or thing.
“she had BEEN TRANSLATED from familiar surroundings to a foreign court”
I can only accept what our Father’s Word says which is that “Enoch was translated that he should not see death”:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
This passage say Enoch “was not” for “God took him”:
Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
God’s throne is in heaven:
Psalms 11:4 Jehovah is in his holy temple; Jehovah, his throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
So we must accept the fact that our Father took Enoch to heaven for “he was not” found on earth to be buried.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, AND DEATH BY SIN; AND SO DEATH PASSED UPON ALL MEN, FOR THAT ALL HAVE SINNED (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. NEVERTHELESS DEATH REIGNED FROM ADAM TO MOSES, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. (Rom 5:12-14)
I guess Paul forgot. This is the problem. Folks assume without taking all scripture into consideration. And then when they get they don’t care
The only difference between the account of Enoch and that of Elijah is that we are told the destination of Elijah:
2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, which parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
In both accounts we do know that neither of them experienced death:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
So the only thing we can assume is that both Elijah and Enoch were well pleasing to God and therefore both are presently in heaven.
AND LASTLY KNOWING THAT ENOCH LIVED IN THIS BODY OF DEATH TOO
NOTICE WHAT JESUS DID FOR EVERY MAN
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should TASTE DEATH FOR EVERY MAN .
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. (Ezekiel 18:4)
So are we to say Enoch never sinned?
The Apostle Paul knew of no man that dieth not, and said that Death reigned from Adam to Moses, and not to Enoch
Good morning Jeff! Yes it read all your previous replies this morning as I hit the hay around midnight last night!
It’s just not worth arguing over something our Father didn’t fully declare such as where He took Enoch. As this scripture clearly says “Enoch was translated that he should not see death”:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
There is a physical death the body experiences and a spiritual death that the soul experiences:
Matthew 10:28 And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
I would have to assume that Enoch being “well-pleasing unto God” would not have had to fear both his soul and body being destroyed in hell!
@Rob That is a nonsense assumption, the usual fakestream Christian trick of reading their religious emotive BS into The Set Apart Scriptures. Now learn The Truth: 1) NO MAN preceded Yashua Messiah into heaven as a resurrected being. 2) NO MAN is going to heaven anyway!
@ the Untruth
Unless you repent you are definitely not going to heaven with your serpent seed doctrine and hatred of the Jews. Now please stop sending your SPAM all over Hugo’s site Charles. BUSTED. YOU GOT CAUGHT. And then you tell Hugo that WORDPRESS takes all the money from your website. I knew you it. Making money off your fake fraudulent website.
YOU certainly never will (find the Truth). Try for once, looking up what someone is trying to show you. Your ego had to attach itself to a teat that agrees with you. So pathetic.
The difference between us is you guys believe the lie that you’re better than Jesus and I can see the Truth that the rapture has a SPECIFIC and PERFECT purpose and has to do with when Death is cast into the fire, NOT because God wants an apostate last days “church” polluting heaven.
I never said there were 2 kingdoms “of the righteous”. DID YOU? It SAYS the KINGDOM (when Jesus will rule the nations) has BOTH TARES AND WHEAT in it that will either be cast into the furnace or GATHERED at the END of the WORLD (REV 20:11). You need to learn how to COMPREHEND what a person writes AND what the Scriptures are saying.
It’s SO OBVIOUS that you don’t look up a thing I show you so GET LOST.
You’re not being very helpful. Too bad I understand how it ALL fits with NO contradictions but surely I’m wrong since you’ve shown how so much of prophecy disagrees and is lies.
*. So really all you know is that you’re better than Jesus and are going to help GOD rule the world, right? You must be SO excited.
Why does Psalm 23 says “Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine ENEMIES…? Are your enemies in heaven?
*. And why does the parable of the wedding supper in Matt 22 say there will be “both bad and good” there initially? Isn’t God able to rapture ONLY Christians?
What a poser. I’m SO confused. 🙄
And, of course, that means that Zech 8:3-5 that says there are flesh and blood people in Christ’s millennial kingdom is a lie, too.
Man, you’ve really got me making progress here.
Oh, and God needs a Seal AND a Trumpet that can’t possibly happen at the same time as the same event.
👍. This is SO cool!
The thrones in Rev 20:4 are the judgment of the nations, Matt 25:31, to determine what FLESH AND BLOOD people get to stay in His millennial kingdom with Him.
THEREFORE it’s NOT the kingdom that flesh and blood cannot inherit. And prophecy HAS NO CONTRADICTIONS.
You better do some more study on this passage as it is very clear that all the souls on the earth who were not saints where deceived by satan into compassing the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them:
Revelation 20:7-9 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, (8) and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (9) And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them.
So much for your ridiculous claim that the FLESH AND BLOOD people that get to stay in His millennial kingdom are the sheep chosen here:
Matthew 25:31-33 But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: (32) and before him shall be gathered all the nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats; (33) and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
You are so lost. Just continue to add what you like and subtract what you don’t like…..as you just now did. I’ve clearly given you the verses that show you the Truth. I’m done. Just keep believing you’re better than Jesus and we’ll see how that goes.
ALL prophecy agrees and Rev 20:4-14 is the correct order. If what you read doesn’t agree with that order then you’re reading the other Scriptures WRONG.
*. Jesus returns at the 6th Seal.
*. The angels RECEIVE their Trumpets at the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2.
*. And the 7th Trumpet is when GOD comes 1,000 years later. VERSE 17 “For He hast taken (PAST TENSE) His power and (ALREADY) reigned (Christ’s millennial kingdom). VERSE 18 (the timing of the event)….”when the dead shall be judged”. AT THE END OF THE MILLENNIUM.
The Truth is concealed from the many, not the few, my friend. Good luck with that “better than Jesus/”Ye shall not surely die” thing you’ve got going on.
No proof that Jesus returns at the 6th Seal?? It’s practically WORD FOR WORD what Matt 24:29-30 says. And, you know, the line that says, “HIDE US FROM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB!”. Good grief. Your blindness is beyond comprehension. Please stop replying to me.
Try actually reading this verse as it clearly says “immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken”:
Matthew 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Now please notice the next verse starts off with “and then” meaning AFTER the sun is darkened, the moon stops giving her light, the stars fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens are shaken “then” shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
Matthew 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Those events listed in verse 29 are caused by the 6 trumpets which will clearly cause the sun to be darkened, the moon to stop giving her light, the stars to fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens to be shaken!
Please try to save face and learn some real unleavened truth on the subject!:
Lord, you are so lost. The 6th Seal is the return of Christ after the 5th Seal trib when the final martyrs are killed. And the angels DON’T RECEIVE THEIR TRUMPETS until the 7TH SEAL.
Damn dude, learn how to add. FIVE, SIX, THEN SEVEN.
The first 4 angels (who will be receiving Trumpets) in Rev 7 AFTER Jesus returns are even BEING TOLD not to harm the earth until the 144,000 are sealed….AND THEN they receive their Trumpets. GET IT?
Being sealed does not imply they are being raptured at that moment silly!
The sounding of the seventh and “last” trumpet finishes the mystery of the rapture/resurrection that Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Revelation 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then is finished the mystery of God, according to the good tidings which he declared to his servants the prophets.
WHEN did I say the 144,000 are raptured?? I DIDN’T.
* Yes, the rapture is at the 7th Trumpet, the last trump, the Trumpet OF GOD on the last day of SEVEN thousand years AFTER Death is cast into the fire.
*. 1 Cor 15:50….(the rapture) is for QUOTE “the kingdom OF GOD”, NOT at Christ’s return. Jesus returned back in verse 23 when the MARTYRS are gathered out of heaven, Matt 24:31.
*. Rev 10:7 same thing….the mystery of God will be complete when the SEVEN thousand years are finished.
The “one taken, the other left” is also what the parable of the wedding supper in Matt 22 is talking about. The angels in the wilderness being told to gather up the “stragglers”.
👍. I can even give you my phone number in an email if texting is easier. More immediate responses, yeah? A lot of people call. As far away as Nigeria so far.
The book of Enoch claims there were 4500 foot giants born from human women
Enoch chapter 7:2
And they [Human women] became pregnant, and they bare great giants ,whose height was three thousand ells..
The ancient ell was originally the same as a cubit, which is a measurement from elbow to fingertips approx 18 inch. Today an ell is about 3.5 ft
King Og was the biggest giant recorded in the Bible. His bed 13.5 feet long. So he is estimated to be 9 to 11 ft tall. In no way have the scriptures supported a 4500 ft giant. And I am sorry if you believe that lie. Have you ever heard of a guy by the last name Breaker?
Well, I’m not going to throw out an entire book because of a possible mistranslation of a number….mainly considering an apostle quoted the book. And no, I haven’t heard Breaker. Beaker? No, I haven’t.
No, certainly not! Study the Reformation in Europe! Freedom of Conscience is something that came Directly from the fight for an accurate Bible, John Wycliff, Jon Huss and many others. It’s true that this world is corrupt and full of false doctrine, but a good man must search out the truth in any form. Don’t accept what anyone tells you, do your own research!
@thirdeye47
The different interpretations are doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1)), put out there to confuse and divide the world. The devil does not want people to be saved. God said, ‘And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart’ (Jeremiah 29:13).
@thirdeye47 The only way you can be free is through Belief/Faith in Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ) for He is The Truth.
John 8:32 (KJV) And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you free.
John 8:36 (KJV) If The Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Funny thing is, you have no understanding, except of a 3rd eye…. You 3rd eye needs plucking out and throwing into the fire, as one day if you don’t change, your whole body and soul will be cut off and thrown into the fire…
Jesus Christ Died for you and everyone on earth… Make the break and wake up, you are not aware of Truth only deception….
Hi Hugo,
I made a comment on your Jordan Peterson video, but i didn’t saw it in the comment section.
Is this comment machinery waiting for your moderation?
Is great to see you (Hugo) working out what is plain to see for some of us, I’ve commented before and you’ve not seen my comments or replied, but the bible is the only source of truth, it’s is gods word, the devil was thrown out of heaven in 1914 hence woe to the earth he has a short time, I can explain more you need the message me I can send you links to information that you are working out by yourself which others have worked out 100 odd years ago! Even the Xmas story has been twisted the star of wonder !! Is evil, as god has always forbid divination and astrology so why would he send a star to find Jesus !!! From men who follows the stars !! Hello !!! To then visit Herod on the way … for Herod to kill all the males under the age of 2 after .::. People need to wake up the last days are here…
No, Satan has not been kicked out yet. The woman of Rev 12:14 has to go to the wilderness first and when he’s kicked out he tries to wipe her out with a flood of water.
It’s all one story. WHEN the devil gets kicked out he knows that he only has 42 months/3.5 years left. And when his attempt to wipe out the woman fails then “HE goes to the sand of the sea” to release the beast out of hell. You have to look at the Greek of Rev 12:17 to see that the end of Chapter 12 and the beginning of Chapter 13 are connected in time.
Rev 12:14 happened on September 23rd 2017.
YouTube has or had plenty of videos about this.
Plus 3,5 years makes March 23rd 2021. This is when Tribulation started.
And satan will reveal itself September 2024, the start of Great Tribulation.
In that case Jesus will return March 2028.
I believe satan entered in Obama, who is whispering in Bidens earpiece right now.
Barack means lightening
Obama means from the sky.
● His birthday August 4th = the 216th day of the year.
6x6x6 = 216
Oh, honey you’re so far off. Can you tell me what event you’re connecting to as being the woman in the wilderness that Satan tried to wipe out? Because immediately after he does that he goes to the sand of the sea to release the beast OUT OF HELL
Thanks Hugo, spot-on as always. Impressed with the extent of your bible knowledge in such a short time, bro. Catholicism is a Satanic counterfeit in order to discredit true biblical Christianity. The biggest difference between Catholicism and true biblical Christianity is that Catholicism is about earning one’s salvation by the keeping of rules and regulations. Whereas the Bible clearly states that we cannot earn our salvation, for it is the gift of God: “ for by Grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast“. (Ephesians 2:8–9).
Jesus said “by their fruits ye shall know them“ (Matthew 7:20.) So it is clear who the Pope is serving, it certainly is not the Lord Jesus.
Hugo, you do well to stick to the Bible and to pray for wisdom and understanding and discernment from God, as even here, reading some of the comments of those claiming to know the Bible show a great deal of confusion and inaccuracy. Sadly Satan has been busy in the church as well as in the world.
The Catholic church was infiltrated by the Jews many years ago. Ignatius Loyola was a Jew and he formed The Royal Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) for this purpose.
for by Grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast“. (Ephesians 2:8–9). Yes and Amen…
I’m a Christian, a servant of Jesus Christ. He saved me May 5th 2007. My sister is a member of the church of satan, let’s be honest here, and call it what it is hey! She and I have had many, kinda heated debates about her “faith” and mine. I asked her why she felt she needed to go into a confessional box to repent to a man, when I can go directly into repentant prayer to Christ Himself, she couldn’t give me an answer. She finds it extremely hard to forgive family members, and has a bitter heart. Yet she is in awe of my unwavering faith, I said to her, you can have the relationship I have with Christ too, you need only to leave the catholic church, and is false doctrine. I pray for her regularly, for the Spirit of God to move in her heart, to transform her and change her life. I pray the same for all my family, the lost to
Admit they are sinners
Believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, that He died on the cross for their sins, and was raised again on the 3rd day by our Heavenly Father, and now sits at the Right Hand of God, and
Confess Jesus into their hearts and lives, securing their eternal lives in Abba Father’s Kingdon, to praise, honor, worship and glorify Him for life eeverlasting.
Jesus is the True Light of the world, He is the Messiah, my King
He could have just said she was Catholic instead of saying The Church of Satan. Because I thought he was really talking about the real church of Satan. He made it seem that way. Although I know the Catholic Church is Satanic
blasphemy, you have no idea, what your saying, bye yourself a king James Bible, read it and repent to Jesus Christ, as only by Jesus Christ Grace we are saved…
Great video brother Hugo.
FYI This series will really help everyone to put the pieces together concerning the Roman Catholic church and prophecy.
God bless
To understand what really happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II, there is only one address : vaticancatholic.com. This is the site of Most Holy Family Monastery, a traditional Benedictine Monastery. They provide crucial information to understand the current Great Apostasy and the steps to Salvation.
@Susan, Give up and repent! you’re defending the indefensible and fighting a losers battle – I keep telling you deluded people that ALL YOU HAVE is your stupid claim that Peter was a pope, and I have proven unequivocally that Peter was NEVER a pope, nor a Bishop of Rome and without this silly idea your ‘church’ becomes a fake and a house of cards!
I like some of MHFM’s writing, however, I prefer the non-sede traditioninaction.org . I don’t think we truly know enough to declare Peter’s seat vacant (or just recently vacant. The heresies of usury have been “in the church” since Leo X). Judas was one of the 12. Peter thrice betrayed Jesus… What we can agree on is the apostasy of Vatican II
Yes Hugo was spot on although like others I wondered about his references to the Rosary and Crucifixes in the past. I was brought up in the Catholic Church and was in bondage to it for many years. I feel sorry for the priests who have to renounce the possibility of marriage and are tempted in ways which shouldn’t be put in their way. Unfortunately once a Catholic it is hard to break free. Get rid of the priests, the saints, the confessional, the mass, the mariology etc and just read the Bible. Then you begin to know the truth which will set you free.
The whole of the church has been deceived, even the Pentecostal church was promoting this experimental drug. Highly followed messianic Jews even promoted it . However we just need discernment and to follow the Word of God daily in these last times believe in the gospel,that Jesus was born sinless became a man, he died for your sin on the cross He paid the penalty of sin which is death for you, and rose again on the third day He’s alive , believe in Him with your whole heart and mind , be born again as Hugo quoted then let Him teach you through His Word and be saved.
Hi Hugo,
Please watch some of Alberto Rivera’s interviews on YouTube. He was an ex Jesuit and seems legit! He got poisoned due to coming out of being a Jesuit. The RCC isn’t just another part of the system, I do believe they, or rather the Black Pope is the head of Freemasonry and the Zionist movement.
Hi Hugo Ive been introduced to the baptist church UK in Whetstone Leicestershire. Massive congregation, there not affiliated with CofE nor WCC have you any thoughts? they are run locally and members vote on issues they offer total immersion baptism and it all seems good to us.
And quite positive emotionally.
Oh my goodness. I’m afraid Hugo that, like many others, you show your total ignorance of all things Catholic. For instance, do you know about the Second Vatican Council where everything was changed and a ‘window was thrown open’ to let fresh air in? If anyone, and this includes well intentioned Catholics, believes that this Bergolio chap is a pope – or even a Christian for that matter, then they have lost their faith! He is part of the takeover of the Catholic Church that the Freemasons promised over 100 yrs ago and we now see that they have their man on the seat of Peter! This man is an imposter- he certainly isn’t a Pope or anything like it. Baptism is performed to protect the child from the devil as sin is our basic nature. I would have to write reams and reams of explanation which is impossible, and I doubt very much that I would achieve much if anything! Best you don’t talk about things you know nothing about. I doubt you have spoken to a ‘traditional’ Catholic priest or had and serious conversation with one. The fact remains that the Catholic Church was set up by Jesus himself making Peter the first Pope. ‘ upon this rock I will build my church’ and the lineage can be followed throughout history of the last 2000 yrs but the last few popes have not been Catholic and have led the flock astray. Look up Sede Vacantism- that is “The seat of Peter is Vacant” The Catholic Church- the true Catholic Church is alive and well but we are once again in the Catacombs- the smoke of Satan has entered the Vatican!!
You speak Blasphemy, you have no understanding of the Truth of Jesus Christ Yesuha… You speak of Catholics as if you believe in the bleeding marys or such….
You really need to wake up, your falling for a massive lie, and one day you will have to give account to Almighty God for why you are deceived…& your life..
Your are blinded… The amount of pedophiles that attend a Catholic church & the amount of blood sacrifices that take place is a Abomination to Almighty God…
You should realise that the truth is in Jesus Christ alone…
We are saved only by Grace in Jesus Christ alone….
All your so called saints are Dead… Mary is Dead…
Jesus Christ is Alive & well and soon, he will return for His Remnant… Please wake up before its to late, as once it takes place, everything will distroyed….
As an ex Catholic I thank the Lord for the truth spoken by Hugo.The Catholic church was set up by Constantine.The early church had no religious structure.When Jesus said on this rock I will build my church He was referring to Himself.The name Peter means small stone or pebble.
You are spamming links to your site, I’ve counted 20 or so in the last 24 hours, now i don’t mind people posting the odd link here and there, but that is taking the piss, comment, make your point, but don’t post 20 links to your site, which I notice is monetized with adverts unlike this one.
@hugotalking, This post is of a religious nature, hence all the links to my site, and I make NO MONEY from my site. WordPress take ALL the revenue from my site, as I don’t pay for it.
Hugo Talks 
The ” G ” in the Freemason symbol, stands for ” GESU “.
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The Bible is a book written about YOU. Christ is the CSF (Also known as Claustrum) that runs down your spine, from your pineal gland (heavens/God above) to your cocksix, if you live a good life and safe your ‘seed’ (NO Fap) sex but no orgasm, then the Christ Oil, returns every 29 days, lays dormant for 3 days, then enters the pineal gland 1000x stronger.
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that is Hindu filth and not in the Bible. They call it kundalini and the Jews call it the SHEkinah aka Lilith. You never learn that filth from the Bible
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What you are suggesting would tend towards prostrate cancer. Very dangerous ‘advice’.
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@kris.
You are a sicko
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Did you know the Catholic bible has a different ten commandments. They removed the second one about not worshiping graven images. They then split the tenth into two, the one about coveting. They created one about coveting you neighbours wife. They changed the very commandments which were engraved by the finger of God.
As a Christian I consider myself as a member of the church of Jesus. I follow the teachings of the Bible first, then consider what the church is telling me.
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She is not the mother of God. Stop it
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Jeff, the heresy that you promote on this issue, which denies that Mary is the Mother of God, is called the Nestorian heresy.
The Christian Church, that is the Catholic Church, condemned it in the fifth century. The Nestorian heresy, which you and many other non-Catholics hold, divides Jesus into two persons. It denies that Jesus Christ is a single Divine Person with two natures. Adherents of this heresy don’t actually believe that the Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity became man. Rather, they hold that Jesus was a man who was united to the person of the Son of God. Hence, they divide Jesus into two different persons or two different individuals.
To say that Mary is the mother of the man Jesus – but not of the Christ – is to deny that the man Jesus equals the Christ. But Scripture of course explicitly refers to the man Christ Jesus. The man is the Christ.
“…the man Christ Jesus.”
– 1 Timothy 2:5
Jesus is a single person. He is God and man and Christ. Your statement rejects a fundamental truth of Christianity that the man Jesus is the Christ.
“…before Abraham was, I am.”
– John 8:58
Further, to say that Mary is the mother of Jesus but not of God, is to deny that Jesus is God.
Now, the argument raised by heretics like you, is that Jesus existed before Mary and created her, so Mary cannot be the Mother of God.
But that argument only reveals how completely you fail to understand this issue and the Christian faith. What such heretics don’t get is that since Jesus Christ is one Divine Person with two natures, what is predicated of – that is, what is affirmed as an attribute of Jesus’ human nature – is predicated of or affirmed as an attribute of His Divine Person, the second person of the Holy Trinity, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature.
Let me say that again:
What is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – Jesus’ humanity is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – His Divine Person, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature, because:
“…the Word became flesh…” John 1:14
To put it another way:
Jesus’ human qualities, attributes, and experience truly belong to the one Jesus, who is God, even though they are not His divine attributes or predicated of His divine nature. That’s because Jesus, the Son of God, is one Divine Person with two natures. There aren’t two Jesuses.
Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-dot-endtimes-dot-video if you care for the truth, the honour of God and His Mother, and your eternal salvation.
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@MARTIN.
YEA OK
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@Adrian, Well consider what The Ecclesia of The Elect (those set apart called and chosen ones) has to say, and tell me what you think: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/about/
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Many people are very mistaken about the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the [true] Catholic Church [which must not be confused with the Vatican 2 sect of the 6 recent antipopes, including Antipope Francis].
True Catholics do NOT treat her as an idol or a goddess, but as the Mother of God and the mother of true Christians. She led a most perfect, sinless life here on earth and is our greatest role model and helper and intercessor in this valley of tears. God Himself wants us to have special devotion, love and reverence for her. He Himself chose her as His special daughter, His own mother and His immaculate spouse.
There is also abundant scriptural evidence, that Mary, as the new Eve and the Ark of the New Covenant, was graced with preservation from all sin from the moment of her creation in order to be a fit vessel for the God-Man Jesus Christ.
Please watch the video “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-endtimes-video and please stop spreading false claims. She deserves our love. Her greatest desire is to help us lead a life pleasing to God and to reach Heaven.
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Hugo you should educate yourself more about Catholic Faith. This is your first video that partially strongly disagree concerning Our Lady, not long time ago you said that you bought a statue of Our Lady to help with evil attack on your close Family members and now this??! You beginning to sound more like Protestant Heretics. The Church itself has its own faults and problems in the past and after II Vatican Council but after all has survived over 2000 years. I recommend you to read a great book “ The Immaculata Our Ideal” by Father Karl Stehlin. “ I will place enmities between you and the woman, between your race and her race;she will crush your head and you will lie in wait for her heel(Gen 3:15).
“As she was the way by which Jesus first came to us, she will again be the way by which He will come to us the second time though not in the same manner.” “But why should Mary, of all people (and not Christ directly) conquer Satan? Because the devil fears her not only more than angels and men but in a certain sense more than God Himself. This does not mean the anger, hatred and power of God are not infinitely greater than the Blessed Virgin’s, since her attributes are limited. It simply means that Satan, being so proud, suffers infinitely more in being vanquished and punished by a lowly and humble servant of Go, for her humility humiliates him more than the power of Go. Moreover, God has given Mary such great power over the evil spirits that, as they have often been forced unwillingly to admit through the lips of possessed persons, they fear one of her pleadings for a soul more than the prayers of all the saints, and one of her threats more than all their other torments.”
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Spot on!! Truth!
Biggest trick satan has played on most people is to turn them away from her!! Demons hate the “Holy rosary” And they laugh at the stupid people! Who turn their backs on her!! Fools! Pretending to be wise!
They tell us! Nothing is impossible with God! Then in the next breath deny (immaculate conception) Hypocrites!
The Holy rosary is a powerful weapon against demons!! I know! 2019 I had a calling to get a rosary had no idea, how to pray it. Baptised (church of England) man made! Me a sinner! Tattered and torn! All had forsaken me here on earth! But God never did!
I cried out to him for help in my battle against demons!! Then I had the calling! So I went found a church bought a rosary, went home, learned the prayers, wrote them down..
Little did I know it would change my life forever!
My first reciting (apostles creed) tears of joy! Started running down my face! I knew I was home! I fell to my knees! Looked up through my window to heaven! Kept saying! Sorry! Sorry! For the filthy rag I was! Then my heart burst open and all the hurt and pain came flooding out! I was euphoric with joy and pure love in my whole being! Filled with a love not of this world!! I was in the presence of purity!!
And I than God everyday! For sending the Holy Mother! So pure! And true! To me! I was ashamed! Of the man I was! I was attacked by demons, because of the holy rosary! Because I turned from sin! That same year halloween! For three days I had to fight with everything I had and just learned.. Horrible images, blasphemies in my head! I walked around the park for hrs on end saying : “Jesus loves me”
Hail Mary! Our father! I knew I was in a spiritual war! People have no idea! Of it! And how real it is! And without the “Holy rosary” to protect you! You have no defence! Demons cannot overcome the “Holy rosary” I lived it! As the images subsided and I was walking over the bridge. A “white dove ” came out of the sky and landed on the railing next to me! I smiled! Through my torment! I knew “God” was watching over me!
I got a bible, Crosses and prayed and prayed everyday for forgiveness!
Then the summer of 2020, “JESUS” heard my cries.. I will never forget that beautiful summers evening in my room..
My heart burst open and all I ever did came flooding out.. I felt a pure love around me! Tears running down my face! I confessed all! And forgive all!! Exhausted, naked at the foot of the cross!! Hallelujah!!
“Blessed virgin Mary” brought me to (Jesus).
So much I have seen and learned since signs and wonders! In my struggles!! I will defend the “Blessed holy mother” with all I have! No question! I know the truth of her! So beautiful! And pure! Conceived without sin!
There are many Angels, many saints, many martyrs! Only ONE (blessed holy mother)
Now I sin no more!! Celibate and sober! Of my own free will!!
Most on here! Have no idea! What they say!
They mock and scoff at her! Remember this! Fools! You will be held accountable! For every word your mouth speaks against “Mary”
“Thus Chosen daughter of God! Forever” Blessed by God ” all of us! Cannot hold a candle to her! This lady so pure and true!!
All you who mock Mary!
Shame on you all!!
Forgive them father for they know, not what they say!!
70 thousand witnesses at Fatims!! But you fools know better! Shame on you!! Not interested in your pathetic arguments!
Being wise you have become fools!! I have lived it! And Jesus! Truly! Hears me! I saw a. (perfect blue cross) in the clouds through my struggles, when I cried out in the courtyard of the church early 2020, at my lowest point! I said this prayer (God are you still with me or is my fight futile) these words are etched in my mind forever and so is Jesus and Mary in my heart and soul forever! When I looked up to heaven Jesus had answered me! With a blue cross in the clouds!! I sat there stunned! The cross was perfect! Magnificent!! I was walking around that day in a dream of heaven!
Our Lord and saviour! Had answered! A boy from nowhere!!
Jesus! Mary! I Love you! I Love you!!
My testimony!! Is true! So help me God!
God bless!!
Christ is king!
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Did you say “The Holy Rosary” you folks amaze me. You want truth and squirm like worms when it’s being presented to you. What in the heck is a Holy rosary? That is an idol. How is the world is a Rosary, Holy. Its an object. Wow. You guys are completely blinded
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@Ramos Francis I 100% agree with you about Our Lady.
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You seem to talk more about Mary than Jesus who died on the cross for your sins. I don’t understand the fascination with her. She was a vessel only. And was favored by God.
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For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God including Mary, Romans 3:23. Mary is not the mother of God, she was used to bring the messiah unto the world. God is the creator and so is Jesus who is the word of God John 1: 1-4. Christ created Mary so Mary can never be the mother of the creator as she was a created being.
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Map, the heresy that you promote on this issue, which denies that Mary is the Mother of God, is called the Nestorian heresy.
The Christian Church, that is the Catholic Church, condemned it in the fifth century. The Nestorian heresy, which you and many other non-Catholics hold, divides Jesus into two persons. It denies that Jesus Christ is a single Divine Person with two natures. Adherents of this heresy don’t actually believe that the Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity became man. Rather, they hold that Jesus was a man who was united to the person of the Son of God. Hence, they divide Jesus into two different persons or two different individuals.
To say that Mary is the mother of the man Jesus – but not of the Christ – is to deny that the man Jesus equals the Christ. But Scripture of course explicitly refers to the man Christ Jesus. The man is the Christ.
“… the man Christ Jesus.”
– 1 Timothy 2:5
Jesus is a single person. He is God and man and Christ. Your statement rejects a fundamental truth of Christianity that the man Jesus is the Christ.
“… before Abraham was, I am.”
– John 8:58
Further, to say that Mary is the mother of Jesus but not of God, is to deny that Jesus is God.
Now, the argument raised by heretics like you, is that Jesus existed before Mary and created her, so Mary cannot be the Mother of God.
But that argument only reveals how completely you fail to understand this issue and the Christian faith. What such heretics don’t get is that since Jesus Christ is one Divine Person with two natures, what is predicated of – that is, what is affirmed as an attribute of Jesus’ human nature – is predicated of or affirmed as an attribute of His Divine Person, the second person of the Holy Trinity, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature.
Let me say that again:
What is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – Jesus’ humanity is predicated of – or affirmed as an attribute of – His Divine Person, even though it’s not predicated of His divine nature, because:
“… the Word became flesh …” John 1:14
To put it another way:
Jesus’ human qualities, attributes, and experience truly belong to the one Jesus, who is God, even though they are not His divine attributes or predicated of His divine nature. That’s because Jesus, the Son of God, is one Divine Person with two natures. There aren’t two Jesuses.
Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Please watch the video (22 minutes) entitled “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-dot-endtimes-dot-video if you care for the truth, the honour of God and His Mother, and your eternal salvation.
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@martin
You can write a whole book about Mary. But it will not change the fact that God found favor with her and through the Holy Spirit she conceived Jesus. She cannot be the Mother of God. God already existed. Are you kidding me? A little common sense. Also. You are in satanic doctrine literally and you don’t want to face it. Why can’t you Catholics see what’s in your face. What surprises me is yall seek truth and when its given yall squirm like worms. Its time to leave that demon Church and worship the Father in Spirit and truth
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I agree. God created Mary to be the mother of the Word Made Flesh. Why wouldn’t He make her perfect as the Ark of the New Covenant? To deny this is blasphemy against the Father. Mary gave us Jesus through the Holy Spirit both at His birth and at Cana and in His dying moments Jesus gave His mother to us.
Anyone who insults Jesus’ mother Mary blasphemes against Jesus and The Holy Spirit which is unforgivable.
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No one is insulting her. You guys are a trip. We are merely saying she was chosen by God to give birth to the Messiah Jesus Christ. You are making her another Mary. You are making her an idol. Not the Mary of the Bible. Wow I keep saying yall are on here for truth and then squirm like worms when faced with the truth
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You Catholics are desperate. But I don’t understand why. Because all Churches are corrupted.
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@Martin Donovan I agree with every word you’ve written. I agree Hugo
please watch the video “Mary: Mother Of God & Ark Of The New Covenant – Absolute Proof!” on www-endtimes-video and please stop spreading false claims. She deserves our love. Her greatest desire is to help us lead a life pleasing to God and to reach Heaven.
Well said!
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Her greatest desire. What about the Father’s greatest desire. Our Creator. You folks are twisted.
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The Jewish ADL group says the Pope supports them. Funny how Pfeizer, J&J and Moderna all have “Jewish” CEO’s and the CDC too. Kosher Covid they should call it and the media too
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Something interesting related to your observation regarding the unnatural ness of setting apart men in order to teach scripture and the results of this, visit Romans and see what takes place. Suddenly everything we’re seeing happen in this world starts to click in place.
Separate note, I was raised a Catholic; I served at the altar, I taught, I gave readings, I went to retreats, and all my children were baptized in the Catholic Church. For many years I was content with this, even though deep down, there were questions regarding this institution that had not yielded to me any sort of satisfactory answers. Then at one point as a young man I was shaken by something that made me stop going to mass. It wasn’t a crisis of faith, however – that I’ve never felt. It was just a revelation about the direction the church appeared to be heading.
When Pope Francis delivered his “moral obligation” speech over the pandemic, it sealed me in a way that prior to this, I hadn’t been fully convinced of. My mother is still very much Catholic and I can’t think of a better example of a practising Christian than this woman over the years. And I still feel as though a significant portion of Catholics are like this, and so I held out for people like my mother, unwilling to accept that just because I happened to disagree with the institution on several points, didn’t mean its followers were bad people. But I had made my decision to place my trust in God to see to my health, and I expected the vast majority of Christians to do the same, even though I was starting to see that this would not be the case, and in fact, it seemed as though the exact opposite was going to happen. Sure enough, by the time the Pope weighed in, I knew, deep down in the core of my soul, why I had been shaken up those many years ago.
When you look at the Catholic Church – indeed not just this institution but a vast majority of them – I invite you to see them the way Yeshua saw the Pharisees and Sadducees. Much as patterns repeat themselves in scripture, so – too – is this repeating itself, before our eyes. Holding authority over scripture gives the authority a sense of power that leads to corruption. People who would do good, instead become lead to work evil. If you can’t see this constantly repeating itself throughout history then you are utterly blind – stumbling about as though in the dark even though it’s noonday. The Lord said many would fall away. Many. More than those who manage to retain their faith, and endure the trials that await them. MANY. Pray that those you love and care about are not counted amongst these. Pray that you yourselves are not deceived, for Satan is not done, and it is only going to become increasingly difficult. And Pray that when the time comes, Yah gives you the strength to say what needs to be said, to those who need to hear it, with love and compassion, and not with hate or self-righteousness, because we’re all susceptible to the Fall at any point, if we’re not vigilant.
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Thank you. Interesting testimony.
Am I correct that you are still a Catholic but not a practicing one?
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I don’t consider myself a Catholic any longer, no, but I will still accompany my mother to mass, and I will attend it on my own, from time to time. I’ll also pop in and see what’s going on with most denominations. To me, there are two sides to this as it unfolds: on the one side, there’s organized religion, with their particular doctrines and the abuses of power they seem to demonstrate fairly consistently, independent of whichever denomination happens to be in question; on the other side, there’s the understanding that scripture is what everything has been based off of, and that scripture is readily accessible by virtually anyone, if they had the wherewithal to go and seek it out. I was raised on scripture. It’s ingrained in me moreso than even the “stand, sit and kneel” rituals of the Catholic form of Christianity. Without the Catholic Church, I wouldn’t have been exposed to the truths of the Bible, but the same can be said of Baptists, Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists – you get the idea. The same scripture, but the interpreters of said scripture are whom I tend to view with the spirit of putting them to the test. I don’t test Yahweh. I test those who preach the Gospel. More and more, I’ve been finding that it’s not the teachers, but the active students of scripture, who seem to have the right of it. It might be a bias for the little guy or the underdog, but on the other hand, when has the Lord ever NOT chosen the unlikeliest of champions?
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Reprobate that’s what he is.
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i don’t trust in christianity. jesus was king of the hebrews why aren’t we worshipping the same god he worshipped? christ ianity is jesus worship. the ten commanments tell us not to do it. i definetly believe higher entity’s wrote the holy scriptures but they have been manipulated. syncretism may be like an nwo agenda but in reality we are all under the same dome so i think it’s the truth. the nwo will have a warped version of the same religion no doubt.
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You can trust in Christianity but not in judeochristianity
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It’s depends on what you mean by JudeoChristianity. Salvation is through the Jews whether folks want to accept that or not. If you are saying that Judaism and Christianity have nothing in common s far as beliefs you are correct.
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@Karl, Correct. The term ‘Judeo-Christianity’ is an oxymoron created by George Orwell (Eric Blair).
The Counterfeit Cainite-Judeo-Christian Religion:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/the-cainite-judeo-christian-religion/
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@Lawson, Was and Is Yashua Messiah (the Lord Jesus Christ) Yah?:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/was-and-is-yashua-messiah-the-lord-jesus-christ-god/
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Jesus is the Word of God who was with God in the beginning (John 1:1). He is deity and it’s not idol worship. You need to stop listening to the lying Jews.
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Amen 🙏
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Good video hugo, only thing that baffles me is, how can we trust the bible/a book…how had this book been aloud to stay present and trustworthy this whole time…they delete history over years and why not delete the bible if its true…..I just dont get how we should put our entire belief into a book called the bible.. who wrote it…who documented it…why are there numerous other religions that are not like christianity and they have there own faith and religions….why is christianity the true religion above all others…..I want to believe it i really do but how has the bible been allowed to stay relevant when we do not know it’s TRUE source..could be corrupt and part of the plan for all we know or a story..
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If god is in control of everything, and this is a test, if there were no bible, you wouldn’t stand a chance.
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Amen on that one Hugo.
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Hugo I agree fully , I’ve asked similar questions in the past and now reading the bible I have no doubt of its truth . It teaches a spiritual journey / path , one needs to learn in life before the atlas is taken from them and they become lost souls in death .
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It’s just a thought … we are told through history that humanity have always believed in a creator god ( s ) … but without the lord Jesus you wouldn’t have Mary and the Catholic beast movement … I’ll still read the bible because within is the true lesson of faith in god .
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Put another way , step outside the box and look in … you have a female called Mary who is a virgin , generally speaking wouldn’t most virgin females be of a young age ( child )… ? Who has / carries a secret conception ( crime ) that someone called god told through a fairy in a dream that she can’t speak of . And the young lady has a child by god and when the time was right to enforce a message to the masses , that child was made a sacrifice . And from that day forward , the beast has tricked the majority into worshiping child sacrifice and honouring very young females who still are virgins … I remember someone commenting that in the Old Testament that one shouldn’t worship any image , and that the cross was such a image . If I’m right it would describe the horrendous crimes committed on children by Catholic priests , forced adoption / nunnery enrollment , crusades of violence , death destruction etc . Many truths within the bible .
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It’s called ‘belief’. Religion is the first, powerful control system.
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You mean its called faith
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Relationship not Religion, Religion is the lowest form of believe.
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Look…you need to read it yourself to find that out…you cannot just go and rely on anyone to tell you. If you think it’s worth it (everlasting life) then try it. I recommend the King James version (not New King James) – all others have been corrupted by the counter reformation – but don’t take my word. don’t put your trust in men but in God.
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@thomasfsda, And you don’t think that MEN were involved in the putting together of the KJV bible!? Here’s a challenge for you:
Romans 13:1-7 Do Sons and Daughters of Yah Have To Obey Secular or Religious Authorities?:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/romans-131-7-do-sons-of-god-have-to-obey-secular-or-religious-authorities/
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Why do you think the KJV is the best translation from the Greek? And what about translations into every other language? I agree that we need to be careful of modifications 1984 style but come on! Is KJV really the best translation for today?
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Do you really believe that Satan is to powerful for God/Jesus. That Jesus can not and will not preserve his Word. This is His (The Bible) only communication to us. When you open The Word it tells His story like no other.
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Read the MSTC – Modern Spelling Tyndale/Coverdale Bible —> https://studybible.info/version/MSTC it is word for word from the original gothic text…….Tyndale btw was martyred by the catholic (babylonion) church for creating this for the ordinary man.As for the authenticity of it this bible was the first translated into modern (then) English way before the masonic kjv changed it and every subsequent bible more or less copies the kjv.
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why did freemason guy fawks try burn down the houses of parliment when the KJV bible was getting compiled ?
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I enjoyed reading Jason Bresheares’ book ‘the lost scriptures of Giza’. Whilst I don’t agree with him entirely, he provides some good evidence to support the theory that Christianity was the original religion (as in a saviour was coming and he would die and be resurrected and that he was connected to the religion of the Israelites.) He goes into Hinduism and Zoroastrianism and some religious beliefs of the old Americas. It centers around Egypt and Enoch. It’s an interesting theory that may explain why there are so many different religions and where they might have originated. It’s just a theory but it might be true.
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I agree that the chatolic church have so many errors that it’s not even funny.
Many other churches also make up their own rules and everyone claim they have the ultimate truth and correct news and everybody else are wrong. It is man following man. Matt 15:13-14 If a blind man follows a blind man, both will fall into a pit.
I agree on the baptizm aswell. Even Jesus was baptized by John the baptist as an adult.
God bless Hugo and all
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I think I meant to say “correct ideology”, not correct news LoL. Autotype.
God bless
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Other massive contradictions with Roman Catholic teachings are as follows;
1. Mary was a sinner because she had to have a sacrifice after the birth of Jesus as according to the Jewish days of purification (Luke 2:22)
2. Mary was not a perpetual virgin as Jesus had at least 4 half-brothers (James, Joses, Simon and Judas) and 2 sisters (Matthew 13:55-56)
3. The term Pope is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible! A term made long after the canonisation of Scripture by the end of the 1st Century, and Constantine’s merger of Christianity with paganism around 325 A.D.
4. So, Peter could not be the first Pope especially as he broke the rules on being married (Matthew 8:14 and Luke 4:38)
5. Unlike all Popes, Peter rejected worship from another man, the Centurion Cornelius (Act 10:25)
6. After the statement of ‘upon this rock’ to justify Peter as the first Pope (Matthew 16:18), he didn’t do very well initially as, only a few passages later, Peter was told to ‘get behind me, Satan’ by Jesus! (Matthew 23:9)
7. There is absolutely no biblical support of the existence of purgatory – when you die, if saved, you to straight to the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:8)
8. The mass is stated as a ‘perpetual sacrifice’ of our Lord, whereas sacrifices by priests can never take away sin (Hebrews 10:1, 10-12, 14)
9. The Roman Catholic Church is often best described as a ‘plus religion’; faith + works, Jesus + Mary.
10. Finally, and most importantly, the biggest difference is in the Gospel. In Christianity (not the same as Roman Catholicism), salvation is by grace alone by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone, as best outlined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (the deity, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus for our sins, by his blood atonement (Colossians 1:14))
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Your spot on as usual. You are learning fast. The Catholic believe is that the Holy Communion, you are actually eating and drinking his blood. People say well that’s actually what it says in the bible. Jesus also says he is “The Door” and anyone who knocks, that door will be opened and you may come in. So does that mean he is a physical metal/wooden door with a handle?
They also believe Mary had no sin. She was perfect like Jesus. God states every man is a sinner. They seem to blur the lines.
Also because the Church (every church) has blurred the lines by mixing the four gospels and the other writings by the 12
apostles with the writings of Paul. Jesus stated for himself and the 12 Apostles…..”Do not go to the Gentiles”!! This was a commandment! Not a request. His mission was to set up His Kingdom on earth if ALL Jews would believe. They did not soooo, Jesus turned to Paul and it is STATED he is the Apostle to the Gentiles and then later the believing Jew. So why is everyone, Gentiles, reading Revelation and shaking in his boots. It”s for the Jew. It’s to forewarn him what’s to come. What will happen. We are out of here. Read your bible!! Do you really think that God’s chosen ones, he will force you to prove yourself one last time. You know, I (Jesus) know you believe in Me but I am going to send you through the worst hell just so I know for sure (He already said He knows what’s in our hearts). Then if you survive, then I will give you the heads up. That Revelations is your last stand to say, “God I Love You”. He is our Savior, our protector, our deliverer. Not our condemner! Isn’t our sins covered by his blood? The Bible says we are already seated with Him in heaven. But if you really want to go through hell?? Keep believing and maybe you will see it at first hand. For me I’m covered in the blood and I’m out of here unless He calls me yonder today.
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A huge red flag you omitted is how the Catholics confess their sins. Catholics confess their sins to a priest. The Bible does not mention using a middleman for this. One is supposed to confess their sins to God.
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Hugo, I get your point however same as Bojo and other shysters same the Pope won’t disappear from the scene. The hierarchy of CC has already inflicted a huge damage to their reputation by participation in the COVID agenda however majority of priests haven’t established vaccination centres at CC premises.
To be clear the Pope can recommend vaccines in the Vatican so the media can repeat it but I have not heard any Catholic priest to solicit vaccines in the church or during the mass.
If you think that Catholics blindly follow their priests or bishops you are mistaken. There is more wrestling between priests and laity than anywhere else. It’s primarily because it’s an active participation not like people passively watching BBC or people looking at Facebook, Twitter or YouTube where their comments are silently shadow-banned.
The Vatican has been hijacked before Francis, one Pope at the brink of Vatican II most likely has been poisoned.
I don’t think that Jesuits have always been like that. The original Jesuits have been wiped out and rebooted as something completely different.
Maybe it’s better that the evil people are focused on this man who they believe has been groomed no to oppose their agenda but go along.
Maybe it’s better for us that these evil people think they ticked all the boxes by hijacking the heads in the Vatican.
Besides what Francis says is one thing but written CC laws is a different story. He can say all sorts of things to please different groups of people. I bet if the Pope started saying something obviously against the Phoenician objectives you would have another Pope emeritus or in worst case a dead pope. Remember that 5 African leaders who denounced COnVID have been assassinated.
While the Satan’s eyes are on the Pope we should focus on our work and our parishes.
This is what matters not the big politics because it can get you killed and I am not sure if you are ready to become a martyr. Are you?
Have you been stress tested enough? Will your Bible quotes be enough?
Virgin Mary is not a false idol. I think you watched some of the Owen Benjamin’s stuff but even if I recommended him to get a different point of view this man is dangerous and most of his revelations can easily be refuted but he is clever and won’t allow for any confrontational debate so he can continue his tirades.
Virgin Mary has emerged as soon as the early heretics attacked her specifically to undermine Jesus Christ like Judaising followers of Arius (Owen Benjamin is not far from them) were denouncing both similar to today’s Muslims who treat Jesus just like another come-and-go prophet.
Imagine what else could happen if people like Francis didn’t allow evil to infiltrate the church the demons like Rothschild would lunch a full scale assault on the CC. In the past the Vatican has been invaded and plundered e.g. Sacco di Roma by the German emperor and later Garibaldi.
I bet that if Francis changed his stance the very next day Catholic priests / missionaries would not be able to enter many countries. It’s already difficult as the border controls ask for work visas.
Re celibacy I think again I have to repeat myself. There is no pastor on earth who can service that many followers. There is hundreds if not thousands of people per a single Catholic parish. These priests have tons of work on their hands (baptisms, 1st communions, confessions, marriage courses, marriages, home visits, counselling, funerals, they don’t have time for private life, especially for wives and raising own children. Do you get it?
Should every man and every woman have a wife or a husband? Should every couple have children?
Do all the people have wives and husbands? Do all the couples have children.
Of course they don’t and many couples have dogs or cats in place of children because it’s better this way.
Hugo, do you have a wife? Did the Catholic Church stole your wife?
Wives or husbands don’t fall of the sky and thanks to Virgin Mary there are the holiest women in the Catholic Church and even prostitutes know that.
Are the nuns locked up in the monasteries? Do you think the nuns are just sitting there like in prison?
Who do you think was running hospitals in the past?
Not happy with nuns? Ok so now you have a lot less nuns because they got husbands and you have NHS feat Pfizer to treat you.
Since when not showing up in the church is a sin?
CC wants you to follow their rules but you want to follow yours. And?
You should rely more on you imagination that some anti-Catholic videos. It won’t do you any good.
Do not let me doubt in you because you just keep repeating the shit of the Internet but no doubt the trolls who gather here will praise you.
By the way the same trolls that still haven’t disclosed their organisations (in case anyone wanted to join them instead of CC) which tells me are just hostile agents.
Not everyone has wonderful Christmas but it does not mean people should rebel. Even if we are bothered with thoughts that we don’t fit we should try to overcome those thoughts. Did you consider joining a Catholic charity? To see and help some homeless, sick or disabled people?
You would then have a better point of view that your situation is not bad after all.
As I said to you before practice humility because pride is always a serious obstacle and you should jump over it rather than cling on to it.
Where else do you go? Do you think going through life as a lone Bible guy is better or easier?
At the end of the day it’s up to you if you want to be just a Bible-only guy or follow the Catholic tradition.
I see you lean towards a Bible-guy because what it seems you didn’t have a Catholic upbringing – no First Communion, a Godfather etc. so it’s harder to engage with the Catholic community. I understand that. That is why it’s so important for CC to foster new generations because they know it’s much much harder for adult rebels or heretics or pagans to convert. It does happen but it’s not easy.
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This is a very good post and very informative. People will no doubt attack you for this. I agree with some of what you say and some time ago I was considering converting to the Catholic faith. However, on doing some years of research, I now know, without a shadow of a doubt, that the Catholic Church was infiltrated by agents of the adversary, long before Vatican II. I lost all faith in religious organisations at this point. Further research has provided me with an alternative though. I have been told by a former Catholic priest, who left because of the absurdities since Vatican II amongst other things that he learned, that my non-Catholic baptism is valid in the eyes of the Catholic Church, and a thorough learning of a valid Catholic Catechism would be absolutely fine to practice by, as there are now no authentic priests left to administer the sacraments or to perform the Mass and other religious duties. It would be better, he said to me, to stay at home and practice authentic Catholic Christianity, than to mingle with others in what is now the counter-church.
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I know but an opinion of one priest is not definitive. Was he a priest or Satan himself? Because normally this is what Satan would whisper to a person so he/she stays home and practice BBC/Netflix/Twitter/Facebook Christianity. There is no such thing as authentic home Catholic Christianity. You just do what the establishment wants, keep it for yourself. They want people to practice Christianity at home, what for most equates to no worship.
I mean tell it to children, to elders, to needy, to criminals, to prostitutes to stay home. Have you seen movie Silence 2016?
You lost faith in all religious organisations so it does mean you gained faith into the government and perhaps into intelligence agencies.
Why there are no authentic priests left? I cannot confirm this from my observations. Where do you see this?
Are you a Sedevacantist?
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“Why there are no authentic priests left?” – Because after Vatican II the sacraments were changed. The Catholic Church has been infiltrated and is now in the hands of the adversary.
“You lost faith in all religious organisations so it does mean you gained faith into the government and perhaps into intelligence agencies” – Erm no.
“I know but an opinion of one priest is not definitive. Was he a priest or Satan himself?” – He saw the corruption and evil for himself and got out of the “organisation”
“Are you a Sedevacantist?” – I believe that the current pope is an agent of the adversary, and probably many more popes before him. Who knows how far the corruption goes back. The current Catholic Church is far removed from the original, both in its doctrines and practices.
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@Mark, “The current Catholic Church is far removed from the original, both in its doctrines and practices.”
And there you have it, for Yashua Messiah promised that He would see to it that the gates of hell = The Adversary would not prevail against HIS ASSEMBLY – THE ECCLESIA = those called out = those set apart called and chosen ones who are only FEW in number!
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@Mark
I only know the Vatican II church. I am not 60 or 70 years old to remember Vatican I.
Regardless of the changes I still hold it dear. It does not have to be perfect but is way way better than anything else I see so far.
Are your family members who remain Catholic also buffed about this whole corruption going back God knows how far?
In that case if not CC if you could recommend an alternative organisation that people should join.
As I said some personal, Bible-only form of Christianity can work but for very few.
Are you preaching this on the street?
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Hugo, look closely at the cross Pope Francis wears. Check out OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis) and freemasonry.
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God bless you Hugo, you took the path God led you to …. and you seem to be flourishing for it. I was concerned you were going down the RC pathway, but praise to the Lord, you see it for what it truly is. Read up on popes in the past, they’ve done some seriously disgusting stuff, as I’ve said in the past, and you have brought pictures to see, the vatican is based on serpent heads and pagan statues and symbolism. Happy New Year Hugo, with thanks and blessings to you.
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Are you based in Vauxhall or Langley (US)?
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Former Catholic, I read the Bible and saw God was referring to many Catholic practices as wrong.
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Right. What practices?
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The Catholic Church cannot be considered a Christian Church because the Catholic Church promotes a WORKS BASED SALVATION. the Bible in Ephesians 2 :8-10, Apostle Paul states “ For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” They believe that Jesus’ death on the Cross was not enough. Catholics add to the Cross good works, and following Catholic Dogma correctly. They add to the COMPLETE WORK of Jesus Christ who said just before He died on the Cross, “it is finished.” ( John 19:30). Meaning that His death, and resurrection was ALL that is needed to provide for our Salvation. Clearly the Bible states that a person’s Salvation is a FREE GIFT FROM GOD, and can IN NO WAY BE EARNED by a person doing “good works”, charity etc…
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James 2:17 ?
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Mark, James 2:17 (MCV) Even so Faith, if it hath not acts of Faith, is dead, being alone.
Acts of Faith are NOT works, as in obedience to The Law and The Commandments, as Faith is a Law unto itself!
Romans 3:27 (MCV) Where is boasting then? It is excluded – debarred. By what law? of works? Nay: but by and through THE LAW OF FAITH!
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Not quite, you have to repent and follow Christ! As Jesus said, ‘No one comes to the Father but through Me!
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@crisstarr, And no one can repent unless The Father initiates it:
John 6:44 (MCV) NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw (drag) him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65 (MCV) And He said, Therefore said I unto you, That NO MAN can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
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What must I do to inherit eternal life? Keep the commandments Go sell everything you have and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come follow me. Mark 10:17-21. Jesus’ own words.
“For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was ill and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me”
When?
“Whatever you did for one of the least of my brethren, you did for me”
“Truly I tell you whatever you did not do for the least of these you did not do for me”
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
Matthew 25:34-46
Jesus’ own words deny your thesis my friend.
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And pharmakeia is related to BABYLON/VATICAN CITY, Rev 18:24.
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The Jesuit’s were founded by Ignatius Loyola at the time of the reformation to destroy the reformation by whatever means or methods. At the time of the reformation the Catholic Church controlled the then known “Christian world” and the secular world. The reformation caused them to lose their control of the Christian world. They lost their control of the secular world in 1798 when the French General, Berthier,arrested and removed the Pope from his position. The Vatican treaty of 1929 gave them a secular state to reign…Vatican state.Since then they have been working to re establish themselves on the world stage as the religious and political power. As an adviser to governments and educational establishments ( think of all the Jesuit founded/run universities), they are insideously placing themselves where they can influence mindsets and develop leaders with their mindset. The Vatican has recently been “ascended” to a member state of the UN….The Vatican is not a Country. Now they can really exert their policies on climate change ( Sunday Sabbath…not the seventh day sabbath given to us by God), and communitarianism … No right to private ownership…. as Pope Francis wrote in his respective encyclicals Laudato Si and Fratelli Tutti. The Reformation occurred due to the false, coercive, oppressive and non Biblical teachings of the Catholic Church. Now that this current Jesuit Pope has the full attention and cooperation of the world leaders, we are going to see their true oppressive and coercive agenda come to the fore. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life…… He did not mention following the false statements of the richest establishment in the world (Vatican)
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Read this Hugo: https://www.scribd.com/document/333127274/Fortune-Time-Global-Forum-2016-Working-Group-Solutions
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Thank you Hugo. I must admit, it is a excellent video.
According to Scripture, the Bishop of Rome, (the Pope), is the representative of Satan on earth. In Revelation 13 we read, I quote,
“1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”
In verse 5 it says “… all the world wondered after the beast.” And, as you said, in Revelation 18:23 we see that by her “… sorceries were all nations deceived.”
It is the first time in human history when ALL NATIONS have been deceived by this earthly power whose behind is none other than Satan himself. Now this prophecy is being fulfilled before our very own eyes when the whole world, (or all nations), unite in one accord and will very soon rallie against the remnant we find in Revelation 12:17 and 14:12. And in Revelation 13:15 says that those who “… would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.”
And this is not new as this has already happened in the past when the papacy persecuted and butchered millions of Christians simply because they did not acknowledge her supremacy or have owned a Bible. It is estimated that during the papal inquisition from 538 A.D.-1798 A.D., (so-called dark ages), between 50 to 100 millions Christians sealed their faith with their blood. This number is an estimation only, but the real number could be higher.
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I’m not Catholic by any means, as I think that religious organisational structures are by default corrupt, but we do have to remember that the Church came way before the Bible that we have in our hands today. This Bible has been edited, changed and manipulated to suit certain agendas at certain points in history. That’s why we have so many denominations who can’t agree with each other. Also, the Church(es) has been infiltrated by the adversaries, possibly hundreds of years ago, if not longer. Picking out what is true and real from Scripture can be very difficult. Asking God for help through prayer is probably the only way for people of our time to find answers.
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Churches argue because they’re ALL wrong when it comes to prophecy. But it’s all there and can be figured out if you read it right. Hint:. NO ONE is going to heaven. Not pre-trib and not at Christ’s 2nd coming. The rapture isn’t for another 1,000+ years.
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the word CHURCH is not in the Bible…the original wording says Congregation / Assembly.
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Church = 33. Look it up in numerolgy. 33rd degree mason. Masons have there hands on everything.
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@nimblehorse, Correct! The Assembly = The Ecclesia = Those called out = Those set apart called and chosen ones = The Elect.
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@ Mark
We don’t get to pick and choose bits of the word of God. When we believe the gospel, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13). The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, He will lead you into all truth (John 16:13). Study everyday, (the more we study the more we will understand), believe it and pray for guidance.
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Yep “pharmakeia” is their primary method of death:
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Brilliant Summary Hugo, the fact that Mary was’nt a virgin as Jesus had siblings is one deception this organisation is spreading the other
being in the classic book ‘Foxes Book of Martyrs’ thousands of christians were persecuted by them in the 1500s because these true christians wouldnt believe in transubstantiation and the fact the physical body of christ wasnt actually the body of christ every time they consecrated is another porky pie, lets not mention purgatory !
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Jesus’ “children” are a simple mistranslation from the Greek. No man would have touched the ark of the covenant on pain of death. Joseph knew that when Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
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Another that thinks he is a scholar.
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Some of the comments left were not in the Bible but, the forefathers and scholars going back thousands of years came up with these things where it has been helping people and yes, 70,000 people saw the apparition of Our Holy Mother in Fatima. It was a rainy day and when the apparition showed what hell looked like with the swirling sun like object with tormented souls left the 70K people dry. Don’t you think the Queen of heaven deserves a little respect after giving birth to Our King.
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@theseekfortruth Well at least you admit that she’s the Babylonian Queen of Heaven, so that’s a good start on your road to repentance.
An educational video for you to help you on your way: The Islamic Vatican Connection Prof. Walter J. Veith: https://archive.org/details/the-islamic-vatican-connection-prof.-walter-j.-veith
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She deserves the greatest respect and honour. She held God inside her pure womb for 9 months and raised Him with her love. She is the queen because she is the mother of our king. All generations will call her blessed. Nothing to do with Babylon you heretics!
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Excellent video Hugo and 100% accurate !!!
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Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. Matthew 7:13
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I live in America. I used to go to a Lutheran church. I noticed my pastor doing an upside-down cross as a part of his closing invocation. Most priests and pastors seem to do that. The cross I am talking about is when they draw an imaginary cross with their hand. They start at the head and go down to about the nipple line. They then come up a tiny bit and drawn the rest of the cross. Pay attention to things like that if you go to any church.
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@kfilly
Wow. I have been saying that for weeks now on Hugo’s blog. It’s in all Churches. The Masons run all the Churches. They also do their masonic handsigns in front on there blind congregations. You are blessed to be awake. Wow. I have shown people videos of these decievers doing their devil horns and pyramid handsigns and they don’t care.
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For those who wants to know the Truth, learn about the differences between Catholicism and Christianity, and how the Roman Catholic Church is leading people to condemnation, please go to https://www.proclaimingthegospel.org
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Interesting thought. I will keep this tidbit for future consideration. Personally, I always felt the “G” in Freemasonry most likely stood for “Gnostic” as in your moniker above. Have you indeed researched to see which has the most historical record? Morris
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The Truth is, in these last days, there’s not a single church, Catholic or Protestant, that should be defended. They’re all corrupt and teaching lies. If you can’t see it then rub the scales off your eyes and do a study about what ALL prophecy says about the last days church. Especially the part that says Jesus is more likely to vomit you out of His mouth than want you in heaven. And this is a full-on repentant TRUE Christian saying these words.
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@ Leslie.
You are the only one who has said the same thing as me in here. Not one Church can be trusted. Leslie thats why we must worship the Father in Spirit and truth like Jesus said the Father seeks. You know the verses I am speaking of. The true Church is very few. It’s very sad that so many follow blindly
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Where is the true church? The ones who obey Him?
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Yes.
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Spread out all over the place. We are pretty much on our own. Unfortunately there are very few true Christians. Jesus is the one who said that. Not me. Narrow is way. Most know the scripture. I am sure you do. Only a few will find eternal life.
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@LESLIE
I don’t think people take Jesus words serious enough. He said the road is narrow that leads to life and only a few will find it. I beleive his words. Like you said. He also will vomit you out. How terrifying is that? It scars me to death. The Bible is that we must each must work out our own salvation with fear trembling. I am terrified. I am not going to lie.
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Jesus does not refer a building or ‘denomination’ he refers to HIS people ‘summoned’ or ‘called forth’ in righteousness following in his footsteps.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Matthew 16:18
ἐκκλησία (Ancient Greek)
Alternative forms
ἐκκλεισία (Thessalian)
Origin & history
From ἔκκλητος (“summoned”) + -ίᾱ (abstract noun suffix), from ἐκκαλέω (“to call forth, summon”), from ἐκ + καλέω. The τ changes to σ by palatalization and assibilation, triggered by the following ι.
Noun
ἐκκλησίᾱ (fem.) (genitive ἐκκλησίας)
assembly
congregation, church
church,
ἐκκλησίαν (ekklēsian)
Noun – Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong’s Greek 1577: From a compound of ek and a derivative of kaleo; a calling out, i.e. a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation.
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There seems to be a lot of discussion on the order of events in revelation. I have been unsure weather to get involved because it matters not what will happen unless you get yourself ready in righteousness first. This is far more important to understand and deserves all your attention rather than discussing ad-infinitum the series of events.
People have become bottles full of sour milk, they need to be emptied of that sour milk, rinsed out and filled with good milk. To understand the process is the most important thing.
You repent to Christ Jesus to clean away your old sins.
You clean yourself with the truth of The Word with the guidance of The Father (Spirit)
You follow the Commandments to not commit sin again.
You take protection by taking Christ Jesus within yourself at Passover.
You gain The Circumcision of The Heart spiritually.
You gain Salvation.
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Sorry – off-topic, but relating to comments on the previous post. I have worked out how the new barcoded stamps are going to be used to check/stop what people are posting. When (hopefully, if) digital ID and the cashless society come in, people will probably only be able to buy stamps for their own use. The barcodes will be printed at the post office when someone buys stamps. The barcode will contain that person’s ID number. If that person upsets the powers that be, their letters will remain at the sorting office and will not be delivered. People will be fined, or otherwise penalised, if they are found to be letting someone else use their barcode stamps.
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Excellent Hugo. Thank you.
Watch audiobook The Trail Of The Serpent which explains in great detail what 666 represents and its connection to the subject of today’s video.
Josephine
youtube/bitchute channel truthforfreedom7
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Way to go Hugo. More on the sorcery and divination too –
https://yahwehshammah.com
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Keep searching for the truth Hugo. You are on target with your comments about the pope. The Catholic Church and many others are being deceived by Satan. Ask God directly to show you more of His truth. If you are sincere He will answer you. He isn’t opening your mind for no reason.
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Can anyone tell me what this music is please? I love it 💙
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Hi Hugo, Thanks for “Pharmakeia Pope” video. As an encouragement let me say you are pretty well spot on with what you say. I am nearly 70 now and was brought up as a Catholic, Catholic schools and church every Sunday so I’m pretty familiar with the routine. I left the Catholic church in my mid-teens and became a Born again Christian in my late 20s and since that time have studied the many major religions including the Catholic church. I have to say it is a cult and lining up to be the “One World Religion” as you say. The Bible is the word of God and the only way to be cleansed from sin is through Jesus Christ. Keep up the good work. Pete 🙂
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isn’t the bible just another way of getting rid of freedom of thought and putting people into a control mechanism? you have all these different interpretations put out that are dividing humanity even further. I see it as a form of extreme conditioning that leads to wars and division
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I guess it all depends on what a person considers a fulfilling life. Sin leads to really bad outcomes while living without sin has plenty of freedoms.
And there’s only one way to read prophecy and the reason they argue is because they haven’t figured out what it’s really saying. If they’re ever able to do that en masse, there won’t be any debate at all because there’s only one way of it all fitting together without contradictions.
But I wouldn’t hold my breath because prophecy ALSO says that in the last days (now) too many prefer the lies because it makes them feel good. You know, like going to heaven in a rapture that it’s NOT AT ALL saying.
But that’s no reason to reject the free gift of Christ and love Him enough to live without sin. Our salvation is up to each person individually.
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Amen the rapture is a lie. We do agree on that.
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A very small correction…and maybe I’m not fully understanding what you’re saying but the event itself, described in 1 Cor 15:50-54 is a real event. It’s just that everyone has the timing wrong and that it’s not to heaven.
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I believe it’s to meet Jesus in the clouds and then come back to earth. Am I wrong? I may be
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Yes, you still have the wrong timing of it. It actually doesn’t have a thing to do with Christ’s return.
I know this is a touchy subject for us but the first thing a person has to do to understand the timing of all events is to agree that Rev 20:4-14 is all true and in chronological order.
Beginning with Christ’s kingdom not being able to begin until AFTER the trib because the people killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4-6.
Make sense? 2+2?
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I will have to do some research on it. I won’t say your wrong because I don’t believe none of these preachers anyway. Most of them are doing their masonic handsigns while they are teaching. So I know they are lying 🤥
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Keep my email so we don’t lose this thread.
lekp1157@gmail.com
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The Bood of Enoch is Gnostic heresy and I will send you some co traditions
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Be careful. Enoch is quoted by Jude. Fair warning: Anything that goes against Scripture I automatically cringe at.
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@leslie. The statements from Jude don’t even match. Go back and look. They don’t match
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If the book of Enoch is going to cause issues then let’s drop it. It has no bearing on what we’re facing in the future.
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Well. It’s a dangerous book for you to be in and this guy with the last name Breaker is a big teacher on this and he is a 33 degree mason fooling everyone and acts like he is a man of God
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Now that guy seems like some scary stuff.
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You have heard of him
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No, I hadn’t heard of him. Your description sounded like he was some scary stuff
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Robert Breaker. And if you understand numerology and how these Masons work. They love the number 33. He once said there will be alot of one handed people walking around during the tribulation because once they get the mark they will regret it and cut there hand off. He really said that. He is an idiot. The funny thing is. Are the ones who get it in the forehead going to chops there heads off. Just a stupid guy and people actually listen to him.
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Yeah, the trib’s gonna be a whole different deal from the vaxx thing where some people didn’t know better. The “world” is going to be spellbound and truly worship the beast. The ones who take the mark will do it gladly.
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They will do it gladly. You are 100 percent correct. Most will fo it willingly. We will be the once that will resist and that will be very few to be honest
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Putting the rapture aside because it’s not what I’m referring to but there will be a few chosen who will be protected in the wilderness. I’d rather be one of those. EVEN IF getting my head cut off would make me more blessed.
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I agree. I don’t want to get my head chopped off but if I have to I will be praying hard at that moment. 🙏 I do recall Paul saying to die is gain. It’s to be next to Christ. I may not have the compete verse but you know what I mean
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And the fact that Scripture says”one will be taken, the other left” shows us that there will even be some who survive not taking the mark.
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Please notice that Jesus said “the field is the world” where the good seed are the sons of the kingdom and the tares are the sons of the evil one. Jesus refers to these two bodies of people as two men and two women working in His harvest but are separated at the resurrection/rapture:
Matthew 24:40-42 Then shall two men be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: (41) two women shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left. (42) Watch therefore: for ye know not on what day your Lord cometh.
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Hey Rob.
Thank for that link.
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Your welcome!
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Small correction. The “one taken, the other left” isn’t the rapture. Notice it says the good seeds are the sons of the KINGDOM. And that’s what it means. His KINGDOM. NOT today’s church.
You may not want to hear this but Rev 20:4-6 is also true and we can know that Christ’s 1,000 year KINGDOM cannot begin until after the trib because the people killed DURING the trib are there.
And the rapture is for the flesh and blood people (the wheat) “at the end of the world” (Matt 13:38-39 where you were just quoting from) WHICH doesn’t “flee away” until after the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:7 & 11.
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Yes those seed are those Jesus calls out out of all the apostate denominations into their wilderness:
John 10:1-5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. (2) But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. (3) To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. (4) When he hath put forth all his own, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. (5) And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
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You didn’t hear what I showed you.
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I am not looking at the “letter” but the “Spirit” of our Father’s Word:
2 Corinthians 3:4-6 And such confidence have we through Christ to God-ward: (5) not that we are sufficient of ourselves, to account anything as from ourselves; but our sufficiency is from God; (6) who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
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Good grief. If you don’t care about the Truth then just say Rev 20:4-14 is a lie and I won’t utter another word. Fair enough?
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This passage fits perfectly into my timeline?:
Revelation 20:4-14 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (7) And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, (8) and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (9) And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them. (10) And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (11) And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat upon it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. (12) And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne; and books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of the things which were written in the books, according to their works. (13) And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (14) And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire.
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Look. I don’t need you to write Scripture out for me. I know what it says.
You need to grasp the fact that since the beheaded souls killed DURING the trib are in His 1,000 year KINGDOM means that Christ’s kingdom CANNOT begin until AFTER the trib.
And that fact changes the timing of events that the preachers taught us.
But FORTUNATELY, makes ALL prophecy agree without contradiction, without adding or subtracting, and without having to change the word KINGDOM in Matt 13:38-39 into meaning “the church”.
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The ONE olive tree was chosen from the foundation of the world in the Beloved who is Jesus sis:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
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You’re just trying to use Scripture as an excuse to make up whatever you like.
Itching ears GARBAGE.
So just say Rev 20:4-6 is a lie and get it over with.
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Just because you struggle with Revelation chapter 20 does not mean I do!!! Try reading my entire link and you will learn much that you did not heart from your apostate teachers!:
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😆🤣. You kill me. Anyone who can’t see that because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are in Christ’s kingdom means His kingdom can’t begin until AFTER the trib is unable to add 2+2. Sorry, but it’s true.
Anyone who really cares about the Truth needs to understand that because it changes the timing of certain events ESPECIALLY the rapture.
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So what makes you think I am not teaching the only resurrection/rapture is AFTER the last 7 years of tribulation??? Try reading my entire link sis!:
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You still don’t get it. The rapture is for the wheat in His kingdom at the end of the world His kingdom doesn’t begin until after the trib and this world doesn’t “flee away” until after the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:11. So where does that put the rapture?
Christ’s kingdom is a LIMITED number of years. There are flesh and blood people in it (Zech 8:3-5 and the judgment of the nations in Matt 25:31). It’s NOT the ETERNAL kingdom that flesh and blood cannot inherit.
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The resurrection/rapture occurs here so that we can reign with Christ for a thousand years after overcoming the beast:
Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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Dude, the SOULS LISTED in Rev 20:4-6 are resurrected dead people. They’re NOT raptured people. And the ONLY dead people LISTED in Christ’s kingdom ARE THE MARTYRS. DO YOU SEE that? Gma and Gpa aren’t listed?? And why aren’t they listed? it’s because the ONLY SOULS in the 1st resurrection are the MARTYRS. THE REST OF THE DEAD INCLUDING GMA AND GPA AREN’T LISTED !!
NOR ARE THEY THERE. Don’t ADD STUFF that isn’t there to fit your lies.
You need to read Rev 22:18-19 and pray for God to open your eyes!
STOP ADDING AND SUBTRACTING TO MAKE LIES!!!
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Thank you for proving to me you have a very pathetic understanding of scripture!!! There is only one resurrection of the righteous dead after Jesus as the first fruits then they that are Christ’s, at his coming:
1 Corinthians 15:20-24 But now hath Christ been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of them that are asleep. (21) For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. (22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (23) But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ’s, at his coming. (24) Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
There can only be ONE resurrection/rapture of the ONE body of Christ who are the ONE olive tree who are those chosen in the Beloved from the foundation of the world:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
Paul clearly defined the resurrection as happening a split second before those who are alive and remain are caught up TOGETHER to our head who is Jesus over His ONE body!!!:
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; (17) then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
This passage does not give the reader the right to build a doctrine around it just because that reader can’t find some Christians who died a natural death like John did while on the isle of Patmos!:
Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
You need to do some more study on who the number of a man points to as you clearly have no clue:
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@Rob, Why Are There Two Resurrections?:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/why-are-there-two-resurrections-part-1/
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@theuntruth
Thanks for proving you are nothing but a psyop. Wow. That’s what you been all along
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I don’t need you or anyone else to write Scripture out for me. I know what it says and I’ve figured out what it’s saying to where there are NO contradictions and without adding or subtracting or changing a single word.
*. Those who are His at His coming are the MARTYRS of the FIRST RESURRECTION. Just as Rev 20 says. “Then comes the end”….OF HIS KINGDOM when He delivers His KINGDOM…TO the Father. Get it? Christ’s kingdom is His KINGDOM, NOT the church.
*. 1 Thess 4:14 says GOD brings the dead in Jesus , NOT JESUS
*. 1 Cor 15:50 says the rapture is for the kingdom OF GOD, NOT Christ’s kingdom on THIS earth.
*. Matt 13:38-39 says the wheat are the sons of Christ’s KINGDOM, NOT the church.
*. The same verses say the tares are cast into the fire (same timing as the wheat being raptured) is at the end of the world and the world doesn’t flee away until AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS ARE FINISHED, Rev 20:11.
*. Jesus had to die to be resurrected. And 1 Cor 15:36 says ALL flesh has to die to be resurrected. The rapture is NOT A DEATH. DEATH is when you’re put in the grave.
AND NO ONE IS BETTER THAN JESUS!! What you people believe is BLASPHEMY!!
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I’m sorry but ALL you people’s blindness has to be coming straight from God. No one could read what Matt 13:38-39 says and the order of Rev 20 and still believe the rapture has ANYTHING to do with Christ’s return. I’ll leave you to God. But it might be you’re already damned according to 2 Thess 2. Smh.
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You should ask yourself why the Greek word “aiōn” is translated “ever” almost twice as much as it is “world”:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g165/kjv/tr/0-1/
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And the devil always has to change the subject when he’s full of it.
*. Matt 13:38-39 says the end of the WORLD. And Rev 20:11 AND 2 Pet 3:7 both tell us when this earth flees away and when it’s being reserved for fire. AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS ARE FINISHED….AND….WHEN THE UNGODLY ARE JUDGED.
*. And that’s not for ANOTHER 1,000+ YEARS.
Stop replying to me.
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@Leslie Kendall, If you do us all a favour and go away he will then stop replying – an easy remedy!
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It should be obvious that the 6th Seal is describing Christ’s return. And the 7th Trumpet, Rev 11:17-18 says it’s when the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of God AND His Christ. “For He hast taken (past tense) His power and (ALREADY) reigned (Christ’s millennial kingdom)….verse 18 (which also shows the timing of the 7th Trumpet) says “when the dead shall be judged”….which is also at the end of the 1,000 years, Rev 20:12-13.
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@Leslie Kendall But none of that takes away the fact that He will rule as King of kings and Master of masters on this earth for 1,000 years. And I know all about the Great White Throne Tribunal on the Last Great Day – I have kept ALL the Old Covenant Feast Days, in the past, which are a shadow of all these events.
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I’m trying to show people when the rapture REALLY is and it’s SPECIFIC purpose but no one can ever grasp that Rev 20:4-14 is in order and follows the same order as all other prophecy.
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@Leslie Kendall, There is no rapture. There is the First Resurrection when Yashua Messiah returns, and then there’s the Second Resurrection at the end of The Millennium when the New Atmosphere (Heaven) and the New Earth arrive.
Unravelling The Satanic Rapture Deception parts 1 and 2:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/unravelling-the-satanic-rapture-deception-parts-1-and-2/
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1 Cor 15:50-54 is the event that we call “the rapture” so we can all easily understand what event a person is referring to. Don’t get lost in semantics.
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@Leslie Kendall, Semantics be damned, go and read my article, and then make your comments, or remain an ignoramus!
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@untrue
Nobody wants to read the Gospels according to Charles the self declared apostle
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The Seals and Trumpets agree with the order of Rev 20 and so does 1 Cor 15:23-54.
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Yep and so does my timeline!
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Only when you twist everything. Having to change kingdom into meaning church. Having to make the 7th Trumpet the same as the 6th Seal WHEN Jesus returns at the 6th Seal and the angels RECEIVE their Trumpets AT the 7TH SEAL, Rev 8:1-2 WHICH MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE for them to be the same event.
I could go on with tons more of your NECESSARY CONTRADICTIONS to make your apostate scenario “fit” what everybody’s itching ears want to hear but you obviously prefer the lies. GOOD LUCK ON THAT “BEING BETTER THAN JESUS” THING.
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Those entering the kingdom of God are the true church which is mount Zion:
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Luke 17:20-21 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: (21) neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
Hebrews 12:22-24 but ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable hosts of angels, (23) to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, (24) and to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better than that of Abel.
Sorry but there is not one scripture that proves Jesus returns at the 6th seal!
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READ EVERYTHING I SAY.
Yes, one has to be born again to enter the kingdom OF GOD.
Christ’s kingdom on THIS earth is only 1,000 years AND HAS FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE in it (THE WHEAT IN HIS KINGDOM). I already gave you the verses . Christ’s kingdom is NOT the eternal, incorruptible kingdom OF GOD.
And the thrones in Rev 20:4 are for the judgment of the nations, Matt 25:31 to determine what FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE can stay in His KINGDOM with Him. Get it?
*. Christ’s kingdom when He rules the nations with a rod of iron begins after the trib and It lasts the ENTIRE 7TH “DAY”.
“After the 1,000 years have finished” THIS earth FLEES AWAY. And then God brings HIS eternal house, THE NEW JERUSALEM.
THAT’S what the wheat are being RAPTURED UP TO.
NOW, without writing a long list of Scripture that I ALREADY KNOW, TELL ME ONE THING that I said that isn’t EXACTLY what Scripture says!
And I love the way you people always leave out verse 14 in 1 Thess 4 because it doesn’t fit your nonsense, blasphemous scenario from hell. YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE!!….said the serpent to Eve AND TODAY’S CHURCH.
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@Leslie Kendall, The Father is going to put ALL THINGS under Yashua Messiah’s feet, except Himself, so are you saying that will only be for 1,000 years and then He’s going to take it away from Him when the 1,000 years is finished?
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Bear with me. It’s worth understanding.
1 Cor 15:25-28 says (and I’ll paraphrase)…”For CHRIST must reign UNTIL God puts all the enemies (of Rev 20:7-14) under Christ’s feet. The last enemy is death (and that’s exactly where Rev 20:14 puts that event). But God who put all things under Christ is excepted. So that when God puts all things under Christ, the Son ALSO will be SUBJECT to God so that GOD can be all in all” (in HIS eternal New Jerusalem (Rev 21:22, the only place it actually says they’re BOTH with us).
*. Two separate kingdoms 1,000 years apart.
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@Leslie Kendall, It doesn’t say two kingdoms, for it is one continuous Kingdom in two phases – the Millennium, followed by The New atmosphere (Heaven) and The New Earth when The Father will make His home with Men – not hu-man beings (Canaanites). The Kingdom commences when Yashua Messiah returns to take King David’s Throne, and He will rule the earth from that Throne with a Sceptre of iron.
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Yes, the millennium FOLLOWD BY the kingdom OF GOD on the NEW earth.
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@Leslie Kendall, That’s wrong. The Kingdom of Yah commences upon His return to this earth, NOT when the Millennium is over. Yashua Messiah will take King David’s throne which The Father will give to Him
Luke 1:32 He shall be Great, and shall be called The Son of The Highest: and The Yahavah Yah shall give unto Him The Throne of His father David:
David’s Throne will not be on the new earth, but here on this earth.
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God gives it to the Son but God Himself isn’t “with us” until He brings the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
Again, here’s the order:
* Christ’s rule of the nations begins after the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4.
*Jesus then rules the nations for 1,000 years, Rev 20:4.
REV 20:7….”AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS ARE FINISHED”….THIS earth “flees away”, Rev 20:11.
*. And THEN GOD brings the ETERNAL New Jerusalem on the NEW earth, Rev 21:1, and is with us there forever, Rev 21:22.
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@Leslie Kendall, You have zero Spiritual understanding:
John 14:17-20 (MCV) 17 Even The Spirit of The Truth; whom The System (the world) cannot receive, because it sees it not, neither knows it: but ye know it; for it dwelleth with you, and it shall be in you. 18 I, Yashua Messiah, will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you (through my Set Apart Exclusive Spirit). 19 Yet a little while, and The System (the world) will see me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day (when you are born of Yah) YE SHALL KNOW THAT I AM IN MY FATHER, AND YE IN ME, AND I IN YOU.
“*Christ’s rule of the nations begins after the trib because the martyrs killed DURING the trib are there, Rev 20:4.”
If Yashua Messiah is RULING then His Kingdom has commenced, for He will be enthroned upon King David’s Throne. You are making a division where there is no division, just continual rulership from day 1!
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The difference between the 2 kingdoms as given in Rev 20.
* Christ’s reign (by Himself) in Jerusalem is on THIS earth. It includes flesh and blood people in it. It only lasts 1,000 years, it mirrors the seventh “day” of Creation.
*. The kingdom OF GOD is when God AND His Christ reign in the NEW Jerusalem on the NEW earth. Flesh and blood cannot inherit it. And it is eternal.
That’s what ALL Scriptures say. I don’t care what the lying pastors told you. If you can’t read Rev 20 AND ADD then I can’t help you.
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@Leslie Kendall, I have already rebutted your drivel in an earlier comment! Get it through your thick head that there is ONLY ONE KINGDOM OF YAH! and I have no bird brained know-nothing pastors, but no doubt you do!
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Yes, there’s only one kingdom of God and it comes on the new earth after the 1,000 years and all the events of Rev 20:7-14 are finished.
If you disagree with what Rev 20 is saying then CALL IT A LIE and be done with it. I’m just showing you what SCRIPTURE SAYS.
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@Leslie Kendall, I won’t call any Scripture a lie, unless it’s spurious like 1 John 5:7, but I will call out misinterpreters and their errors.
Once more – The Kingdom of Yah commences when The Father gives King David’s throne to Yashua Messiah, when He returns to this earth. You admit that He will be reigning throughout The Millennium, so if He’s reigning then He has a Kingdom which He reigns over – it cannot be simpler = KING of kings!
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Yes, Jesus has a kingdom He’ll be reigning over. And at the end of THAT 1,000 years is Gog-Magog, the judgment of the ungodly, THIS EARTH FLEEING AWAY, and Death and Hades being cast into the fire.
SO UNLESS you can show me a Scripture that says there are two earths existing at the same time, THEY’RE TWO DIFFERENT KINGDOMS ON TWO DIFFERENT EARTHS.
And how exactly do you people figure Satan can be released from a pit if the earth he was bound in NO LONGER EXISTS?
You people are such a waste of time. Try reading prophecy with some COMMON SENSE.
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Also note that the word UNTIL in 1 Cor 15:25 shows LIMITATION.
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@Leslie Kendall, Limitation of what?
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“limitation” means Christ only reigning (by Himself) for the 1,000 years on THIS earth just as Rev 20 says.
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@Leslie Kendall, Yashua Messiah NEVER does anything by Himself, The Father is ALWAYS with Him, and He will be reigning, that is, The Kingdom of Yah with His Elect – as kings and royal priests, plus the angels.
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No. “For Christ (by Himself) must reign UNTIL….
If God was with Jesus in His millennial kingdom it wouldn’t say UNTIL. Until WHAT? Until something better than God comes along? No.
“Then comes the end” (of Christ’s reign) when He delivers the kingdom TO the Father”, 1 Cor 15:24.
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@Leslie Kendall, You cannot see the wood for the trees. IF He’s going to give The Kingdom to His Father then The Kingdom MUST already exist and He has been ruling it as King of kings for a 1,000 years, so The Kingdom just continues under The Father’s rule on the New Earth, which He in turn has already given to His Son.
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No shit, Sherlock. We’re saying the same thing. TWO SEPARATE KINGDOMS THAT BEGIN 1,000 YEARS APART.
* The distinction matters to show people when “the rapture” REALLY takes place., when THIS earth REALLY “flees away” etc. BECAUSE the events in Rev 20:7 through 14 happen IN BETWEEN THE TWO KINGDOMS.
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@Leslie Kendall, Yes two phases or ages or eras of the ONE KINGDOM! and both eras will have physical beings, otherwise there would be no need for a new atmosphere (Heaven).
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Correction:. Christ’s kingdom has flesh and blood people IN it where flesh and blood cannot inherit the New Jerusalem.
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@Leslie Kendall, So when and where is the Second Resurrection and The Great White Throne tribunal going to take place which will definitely be a physical Resurrection.
Oh and on THAT THRONE will be seated Yashua Messiah ruling His KINGDOM of Yah – The Kingdom that commenced 1,000 years before!
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Do you remember when Jesus was being baptized? God spoke FROM HEAVEN. God wasn’t physically here when Jesus was here the first time so the two AREN’T ALWAY together.
God wasn’t here physically the first time and God won’t be physically here when Christ reigns UNTIL…
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@Leslie Kendall, The Father was watching over His Son 24/7 365 days of the year, even before His Baptism. After His Baptism He was indwelled by The Set Apart Exclusive Spirit, hence The Adversary could then recognise Him and came and tempted Him.
This lets you know that The Father was with Him ALL the time, after His Baptism, and only left Him at the point of His death Hence He cried out: “My Yah, My Yah, why hast thou forsaken me” Matthew 27:46.
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I said they aren’t always PHYSICALLY together because that was YOUR claim.
God is NOT PHYSICALLY on THIS earth when Jesus reigns for the 1,000 years.
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@Leslie Kendall, Yashua Messiah will be both physical and Spiritual when He returns, just as He was after His resurrection and showed Himself to His Learners, but with the ability to vanish from their sight or appear to them out of nowhere as in the locked and closed upper room.
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Maybe try to comprehend what I said to avoid completely changing the
subject.
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@Leslie Kendall, ALL of what I say is relevant to this conversation, and there has been no change of subject. ALL of it is education for you and those reading these comments.
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And I’m trying to show people that the Seals and Trumpets agree with that order (Rev 20). Jesus RETURNS at the 6th Seal.
And “the kingdoms of THIS world become the kingdoms of our Lord God AND His Christ at the 7th Trumpet A THOUSAND YEARS LATER.
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@Leslie Kendall, I am not getting into the vials, trumpets, seals and woes, as that’s a minefield and sheer guess work. When they happen we’ll then know!
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The Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls aren’t so difficult when you understand the order of Rev 20.
*. Jesus returns at the 6th Seal.
*. The angels RECEIVE their Trumpets at the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2.
And therefore the Trumpets are a part of God’s wrath.
*. And God brings the New Jerusalem on the new earth 1,000 years later at the 7th Trumpet.
Same order as Rev 20. And same order as 1 Cor 15.
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This is after the 1,000 years and Gog-Magog have surrounded “the camp” of Jerusalem….”and fire came down FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN, and devoured them”, Rev 20:9.
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Thank you for proving just how little you study our Father’s Word!
Jesus’ kingdom is eternal just as the Holy Spirit told us thru Peter:
2 Peter 1:10-11 Wherefore, brethren, give the more diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never stumble: (11) for thus shall be richly supplied unto you the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
The kingdom of our Father is the kingdom of Christ for they are one in the same!:
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know of a surety, that no fornicator, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God(the Father).
The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of our Lord(the Father), and of his Christ: and he(Christ) shall reign for ever and ever:
Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there followed great voices in heaven, and they said, The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of our Lord(the Father), and of his Christ: and he shall reign for ever and ever.
This passage proves the souls in heaven whose bodies are presently in the earth our Father will send with Jesus to receive their incorruptible resurrected bodies as those alive and remain will be changed in the twinkling of an eye:
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them(the souls) also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him(JESUS).
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Since you couldn’t help yourself, READ ALL OF THIS AND LOOK UP WHAT I SAY THIS TIME.
YOU’RE NOT BETTER THAN JESUS!!!!!
You need to look at the first 2 verses of 2 Pet 1 where it makes it more clear that he’s talking about God AND Jesus. And that it’s talking about the same thing in verse 11…our LORD GOD AND our Savior Jesus.
*. Same thing in Eph 5:5….the kingdom of Christ AND God.
* 7th Trumpet…kingdoms of our Lord GOD AND His Christ.
*. 1 Thess 4:14…”…those that sleep in Jesus will GOD BRING with Him”.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE ALL SCRIPTURE AGREE. And they’re not BOTH here until after THIS earth “flees away” and GOD brings the new earth, Rev 21:22.
* Christ’s millennial kingdom at the end of the world does NOT mean “the church” when Jesus returns..
*. You have to make all Scripture fit the order of Rev 20. It’s the clearest order of events we’re given.
*. READ 1 COR 15.
VERSE 24 “then comes the end (of Christ’s reign) when He delivers His kingdom TO the Father,”…..TO the Father.
Get it? God isn’t here yet.
And it’s NOT the church. “Je delivers His KINGDOM”.
And verses 25-28 are saying “Christ must reign UNTIL”, NOT FOREVER….UNTIL!
Until God has put all things under Christ and then CHRIST ALSO BECOMES SUBJECT TO GOD. So that GOD, NOT Jesus, can be all in all.
Christ reigns BY HIMSELF on THIS earth for 1,000 years and THEN they BOTH reign in the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
*. You’re not looking up ANYTHING I SHOW YOU.
The thrones of Rev 20:4 is the judgment of the nations, same as Matt 25:31. FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE to decide who can be in Christ’s millennial KINGDOM.
*. IT’S NOT THE KINGDOM OF GOD THAT FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT!!
* You’re NOT better than Jesus.
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Believe as you wish but those counted worthy will reign with Jesus in the coming millennial kingdom:
2 Timothy 2:11-12 Faithful is the saying: For if we died with him, we shall also live with him: (12) if we endure, we shall also reign with him: if we shall deny him, he also will deny us:
Revelation 5:9-10 And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, (10) and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon the earth.
The “first resurrection” takes place BEFORE the millennial reign so we can REIGN with Jesus!:
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
You talk in circles so no one can pin you down!
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Yes, the first resurrection of THE MARTYRS takes place before the millennial reign. EVERYBODY ELSE is still in the flesh, Zech 8:3-5 and Matt 25:31. LOOK IT UP.
* Rev 20:6. The first resurrection ONLY lists the MARTYRS. Who are gathered out of HEAVEN at His return, Matt 24:31.
Don’t add words (or souls) that AREN’T THERE.
*. ALL flesh has to DIE to be resurrected (1 Cor 15:36) UNTIL Death is cast into the fire AFTER the 1,000 years are finished, Rev 20:14. And the rapture that happens at the END of Christ’s millennial KINGDOM is NOT “a death”. It’s INSTANTANEOUS. DYING is to cease living and be put into the ground.
*. NO ONE is better than Jesus. And Death has power over ALL flesh until he’s cast into the fire. That doesn’t mean that everyone before YOU and everyone after YOU has to die and that YOU are excepted, it means ALL flesh.
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Again the “first resurrection” takes place BEFORE the millennial reign:
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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And again back at cha, the first resurrection OF THE DEAD that happens before the millennium is ONLY THE MARTYRS, Rev 20:4-6.
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Sorry but the “first resurrection” includes every branch of the ONE olive tree such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David and many other OT saints who died of old age but clearly had a testimony worthy of reigning with Jesus during the millennium!
Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
When one examines verse 6 with this passage in the first chapter of Revelation it is very clear that everyone loosed from our sins by the blood of Jesus are priests who will reign with Jesus for a thousand years:
Revelation 1:5-6 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us from our sins by his blood; (6) and he made us to be a kingdom, to be priests unto his God and Father; to him be the glory and the dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
You clearly need to ask yourself why those who multiply what is given to them get to reign over 10 cities:
Luke 19:16-17 And the first came before him, saying, Lord, thy pound hath made ten pounds more. (17) And he said unto him, Well done, thou good servant: because thou wast found faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
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“kings and priests unto GOD the Father”. The Father isn’t here during the millennium.
* And yes, Dan 12 says there will be many dead of DANIEL’S PEOPLE resurrected at the timing of the first resurrection. And Rev 18:20 & 24 also say it’s ALL of the MARTYRS who have died for Jesus.
*. I’m just trying to keep it simple because my main concern is people thinking they’re better than Jesus by getting raptured before the millennium. THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN. The rapture is about WHEN Death is cast into the fire at the end of the millennium…..when the dead rise first and the wheat in His KINGDOM are raptured up to GOD bringing the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
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So now the Father is not here during the millennial reign???
With every reply you make you prove you know little about our Father and His Spirit:
Psalms 139:7-10 Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? Or whither shall I flee from thy presence? (8) If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: If I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. (9) If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; (10) Even there shall thy hand lead me, And thy right hand shall hold me.
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1 Cor 15:24. “Then comes the end (of Christ’s millennial reign) when He delivers His “kingdom” TO the Father”.
* Rev 20:9….after the 1,000 years are finished….”and fire came down FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN and devoured them”.
YEP, THAT’S WHAT IT SAYS. GOD ISN’T IN Christ’s millennial kingdom BUT STILL IN HEAVEN until God brings the New Jerusalem on the NEW earth.
Now for the 2nd time today, GO AWAY. You’re a complete waste of my time.
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You also do not understand the Father’s Spirit much less His Word:
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You’re now not just better than Jesus, the entire apostate church that will be vomited out is also as prized as Enoch and Elijah. Sure.
And Christ’s kingdom means today’s apostate fallen away church. Okay. And God wants the apostate church in heaven with Him. Uh-huh.
And Rev 20 is a lie. Gotcha.
I believe you’ve cleared it all up for me. Thanks.
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When 1 Cor 15 says there’s an order to the resurrections it means DEAD people. The rapture isn’t a resurrection. And the ONLY DEAD people in the first resurrection are the MARTYRS.
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Christ is coming ONE time in the clouds to resurrect His body as ONE body of those who will reign with Him in His kingdom where all the previous authority of natural men will be abolished:
1 Corinthians 15:21-24 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. (22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. (23) But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ’s, at his coming. (24) Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
Revelation 14:13-16 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from henceforth: yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; for their works follow with them. (14) And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw one sitting like unto a son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. (15) And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. (16) And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Yes there will be a few in number raptured compared the many who will be resurrected by the end of the last 7 years of tribulation:
1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him. (15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; (17) then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
But that does not exclude them from being a part of the ONE body of Christ chosen from the foundation of the world:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
You need to do a lot more study as your theology is full of holes on who make up the ONE body of Christ:
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Yes, there’s an ORDER to the resurrection of THE DEAD. And “those (DEAD) who are His at His coming” are THE MARTYRS of the first resurrection.
YOU’RE NOT BETTER THAN JESUS! What’s the matter with you?
“ALL flesh has to DIE”, INCLUDING JESUS, “to be resurrected”…..BUT NOT YOU?? GET A GRIP.
*. And yes, Jesus is coming back TO STAY, NOT to take an apostate church back to heaven. NOT to “wait it out” in the clouds and NOT to tell Death to close His eyes and count to 10 so YOU can be better than Jesus Himself.
Just STOP IT.
I”m telling you, you’re believing THE SAME LIE that Eve did in Gen 3:4.
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To be raptured into the clouds with the resurrected does not make anyone better than Jesus anymore than men such as John who died of old age when the rest of his fellow disciples were martyred:
John 21:19-23 Now this he spake, signifying by what manner of death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me. (20) Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; who also leaned back on his breast at the supper, and said, Lord, who is he that betrayeth thee? (21) Peter therefore seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? (22) Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. (23) This saying therefore went forth among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, that he should not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
Enoch was not better than Jesus yet he never died:
Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Elijah was not better than Jesus yet he never died:
2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, which parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
You clearly do not know nearly as much as you boost about knowing!
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You’re not better than Jesus and the rapture is for the wheat in Christ’s KINGDOM at the end of the world (Matt 13:38-39), that “flees away” at the end of the millennium (Rev 20:11). You know, the KINGDOM that has TARES in it, too. And God is still in heaven during the millennium, Rev 20:9.
The rapture in 1 Cor 15:50 is for the kingdom OF GOD, the New Jerusalem on the new earth and the new earth doesn’t come until after THIS earth “flees away” after the 1,000 years are finished.
*. The people in 1 Thess 4:14-17 are the wheat in Christ’s KINGDOM at the end of SEVEN thousand years rising up to meet God and the New Jerusalem on the new earth where the dead in Jesus have risen to first.
* You turn all Scripture onto a contradictory lie. You add and subtract, changing words into what they’re not.
READ REV 22:18.
You never even asked me the purpose of the rapture if it wasn’t to take the last days apostate church to heaven. I’ll keep that to myself. It would only confuse you more.
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Sorry but you have no meat to offer me but definitely a lot of sour milk!
You are trying to create confusion with your multiple times the ONE body of Christ is gathered into the clouds but no one is buying it but your delusional mind!
Try actually follow our Father’s method for being weaned off the milk and you may start understanding the meat:
Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts? (10) For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.
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The people being raptured are the wheat at the end of Christ’s millennial KINGDOM, Matt 13:38-39, not today’s apostate fallen away church that believes in doctrines of devils.
*. Btw, who are the people that Jesus will be Shepherding from the midst of Carmel to Gilead and Bashan when He returns? Micah 7:14.
*. And who are the people in Isa 35:3-4 who later walk to Zion in verses 8-10?
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They are the ONE olive tree also called the ONE body of Christ chosen from the foundation of the world in the Beloved who is the Word who became Jesus:
Ephesians 1:3-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved:
Go ahead and keep trying to confuse the gullible but I ain’t buying your perversion!:
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Micah 7:14 is after Christ’s return and they weren’t raptured. Could you be more specific who they are? And why is Jesus and all of them there? How long do they stay there before walking to Zion?
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This passage is taking place now as a repeat of when Moses led the children of God out of Egypt only this time it is a global phenomenon:
Micah 7:12-15 In that day shall they come unto thee from Assyria and the cities of Egypt, and from Egypt even to the River, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain. (13) Yet shall the land be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings. (14) Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thy heritage, which dwell solitarily, in the forest in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old. (15) As in the days of thy coming forth out of the land of Egypt will I show unto them marvellous things.
The whole purpose of the tribulation is to separate the wheat from the tares in the church so only the wheat is taken to the barn and the tares left on the earth for the burning:
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.
The true church is presently fleeing the apostate world and church to be fed by the “they” in the wilderness which is the table before mine enemies:
Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there THEY may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Of course there is going to be flesh and blood souls who inhabit and repopulate the earth during the millennial kingdom but it will only be the few our Father allows to live through the last 7 years of tribulation and year of wrath. It will be those who have rejected the beast but didn’t have a relationship with Jesus:
Isaiah 13:10-13 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light; the sun shall be darkened in its going forth, and the moon shall not cause its light to shine. (11) And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity: and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. (12) I will make a man more rare than fine gold, even a man than the pure gold of Ophir. (13) Therefore I will make the heavens to tremble, and the earth shall be shaken out of its place, in the wrath of Jehovah of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
Your continued assertion that Revelation 20 dictates a complete timeline from today through the end of the millennium only proves how little you understand how our Father teaches the meat of His Word:
Isaiah 28:9-10 Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts? (10) For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.
Let’s just agree to disagree and watch my timeline begin to unfold just as all the precepts from here a little, there a little prove then you will have my link to consult:
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Micah 7:14 is not happening now. It happens AFTER His return. It’s not some sort of invisible metaphor, it’s REALLY going to take place.
It will mirror the Israelites in the wilderness (gee, where have we seen that in prophecy?) AFTER Christ returns.
And the good seeds are the sons of Christ’s KINGDOM, NOT the church.
WHY do you change the meanings of words to create a LIE?
“the sons of the KINGDOM at the end of the WORLD”. It says what it means and means what it says.
“Jesus is there now”…GOOD GRIEF.
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Pay very close attention as Jesus is clearly saying the good seed are the sons of the kingdom in verse 38 and then in 43 clearly calls that kingdom His Father’s kingdom!:
Matthew 13:37-43 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; (38) and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; (39) and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. (40) As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world. (41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.
Peter clearly told us that the world in Noah’s day being mankind perished thru water but most men today will perish from this world through fire during the wrath of the Father and His Lamb:
2 Peter 3:5-7 For this they wilfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth compacted out of water and amidst water, by the word of God; (6) by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
This is like trying to teach a baby Christian:
Hebrews 5:11-14 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard of interpretation, seeing ye are become dull of hearing. (12) For when by reason of the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need again that some one teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food. (13) For every one that partaketh of milk is without experience of the word of righteousness; for he is a babe. (14) But solid food is for fullgrown men, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
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Matt 13
38) sons of the KINGDOM, NOT the church.
39 & 40) harvest = the end of the WORLD which doesn’t happen until REV TWENTY ELEVEN.
41) “gather out of His KINGDOM”, again NOT the church.
43) “THEN”, “THEN”, “THEN”, meaning AFTER THAT, the righteous will shine in the kingdom of THE FATHER, THE NEW JERUSALEM.
And THAT’S exactly why you have to LIE and say “the church” is the first kingdom because it’s CLEARLY talking about TWO different and separate kingdoms.
2 Pet 3
VERSE SEVEN:. “being reserved for fire on the day of judgment of UNGODLY MEN” which is AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS, REV TWENTY TWELVE AND THIRTEEN.
And you’re right. It’s like trying to teach A BABY that won’t LOOK UP ANYTHING that won’t agree with their LIES.
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No there are not two kingdoms of the righteous!
There is only ONE olive tree made up of ONE body of Christ chosen from the foundation of the world who will be ONE holy temple:
No one with two functioning brain cells will fall for your false doctrines!
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@rob.
You two will never agree. Yall are funny.
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So where do you stand!
It simply amazes me how many have an opinion but so few are willing to put their beliefs in a freely accessible site so as to be understood where they are coming from:
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I have cited EVERY VERSE that I say. YOU are just too stubborn to look things up to see that Rev 20, Matt 13:38-39, 2 Pet 3:7, and the order of the Seals and Trumpets ALL AGREE.
Just stay in your confused contradictory blindness. GOD’S WILL BE DONE.
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Harvest, reap, and gather are all synonymous with bringing the good crop into the barn at one time before the millennial reign so we can reign with Christ during that millennium:
Matthew 13:37-43 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; (38) and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; (39) and the enemy that sowed them is the devil: and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels. (40) As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world. (41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.
Mark 13:24-27 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, (25) and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken. (26) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory. (27) And then shall he send forth the angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Revelation 14:14-16 And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw one sitting like unto a son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. (15) And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. (16) And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped.
Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (5) The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. (6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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Well Rob. I tend agree with you on the this subject but I really don’t worry myself to death about when its all going to take place. All I know is Jesus told us to be ready. Some folks want to shut you down when you start shoving facts in their face See I feel the same way you do. Why does Noone challenge the Thetruthnotdoctrine guy on his serpent seed doctrine. Most just let the guy call the jews literal serpents and don’t put up a challenge.
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I had a few rounds with “thetruthnotdoctrine” guy but he is just as stubborn with his false doctrines as Leslie.
I usually just post a comment on Hugo’s videos and ignore all the discussion but I decided to go on with this Leslie for a bit but am about to shut it off with him as well.
I stand by my website as much as Paul stood by his letters:
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I”m not a “him”. I’m an old woman who can comprehend what is written and can put what is written together to where it ALL agrees rather than creating CONTRADICTIONS just to satisfy your EGO. ANYTIME you want me to submit, I WILL. You’re the blind leading the blind. You can’t ADD 2+2 nor do you have one whit of COMMON SENSE.
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Oh so now it all makes perfect sense!
The reason for spiritual blindness is usually disobedience but they will not see their blindness any more than the pharisees did:
1 Timothy 2:12 But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.
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🙄. You, Rob, are going to go through the trial….if you live that long. MARK MY WORDS. Yep, you’re better than Jesus and SO MUCH better than me. Ditch the ego issues, my dear.
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I trust you more than most on here that for sure. Just so you know. And I am very particular. And I know you understand why. Heck I think I find someone who loves Jesus and then find out they stuck in the blasphemous book of Enoch. A true Christian should know automatically
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Yea I never could figure out why anyone wants to wander off in to other books when our Father’s Word is so deep we will never get to the bottom of all the truths!
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@rob.
There should never be a reason to wonder off in other books Ever. No excuse. The book Enoch itself is a fable. Literally. And full of contradictions. And these supposed Christians do not care.
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I’ll leave you two little boys to yourselves now. Don’t forget, You’re better than Jesus and YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE. Am unsubscribing from this thread now so you can save your lies for someone else.
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Yes I agree! I haven’t read another book in years! Father had me read the NT thru every 2 months since my 20th birthday. Being 57 that is well over 200 times. I read the OT as well but not to that pace. It simply amazes me how someone can claim a person thinks they are “better than Jesus” by simply proving there are souls such as Enoch and Elijah who did not die before entering heaven. Her eyes will hopefully be opened by the time the beast system is fully engaged which looks very likely to be by 2025:
https://sociable.co/business/wef-digital-id-cbdc-esg-misinformation-future-focus-report/
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@Rob.
I am sorry I retired last night. But I am going to check out your link. They are definitely setting up the beast system and yes it’s very close. I have always told my wife for some reason I feel like my death will be by beheading. A terrifying thought non the less.
Anyway as far Enoch is concerned I have read and read and read that passage and get nowhere that God took him directly to heaven. He did walk with God as many others did. And here is the passage. It never says where God took him. Flesh and blood cannot enter heaven. It’s seems to me he died. That’s exaxlty what I get from it.
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Here is the passage in question
And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters
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I believe the answer is found in what was said about the rest of the genealogy found in Genesis chapter 5 where all of them died with the exception of Enoch where God took him:
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
Genesis 5:8 and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
Genesis 5:11 and all the days of Enosh were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
Genesis 5:14 and all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
Genesis 5:17 and all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
Genesis 5:20 and all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Genesis 5:27 and all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
Genesis 5:31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
This is proven where the Holy Spirit thru Paul told us that Enoch was translated which could only possibly mean taken to heaven with God for being very well pleasing to Him:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
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Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
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I would have to assume that Enoch was changed such as Paul describes here to those who are alive where God makes them incorruptible and immortal:
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
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@ Rob. This is the problem. You have to believe all these things may have happened have happened. Obviously some people will not die. Right?
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@rob I get the point now
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@rob.
You do understand that the word translated only means immortal in Mormonism.
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I must apologize as I do not know much about any of the many religions nor their doctrines.
I am working on a study I may call “1st, 2nd, and 3rd heaven”
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Proof that Translated Does Not Mean “ MADE IMMORTAL”
But what about Enochs translation in Hebrews 11:5? Doesn’t that mean he didn’t die?
That’s what most people carelessly assume without proof. The Bible does not say that Enoch went to heaven OR WAS MADE IMMORTAL when he was translated. Instead, it says he “was not found.” According to the applicable websters dictionary, “translate” means “to put or place in another place, to transport, to transfer.” Nowhere in the Scripture does ‘translate’ mean to make immortal!
Ask anyone that speaks more that one language and can translate a speech from language to another language in writing on paper which is called an TRANSLATION, even they know translation HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MAKING SOMEONE IMMORTAL
We even have different TRANSLATED versions of the bible, which again HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MAKING SOMEONE OR SOMETHING IMMORTAL
Translated is Defined: TO MOVE from one place or condition to another.
Noun i.e A PERSON (aka ENOCH), place or thing.
“she had BEEN TRANSLATED from familiar surroundings to a foreign court”
SYNONMYS OF TRANSLATE
verb
interpret – render- gloss- put -express
convert – change- construe – transcribe – transliterate
relocate -transfer- move- remove -shift- convey
transport -transplant
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I can only accept what our Father’s Word says which is that “Enoch was translated that he should not see death”:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
This passage say Enoch “was not” for “God took him”:
Genesis 5:24 and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
God’s throne is in heaven:
Psalms 11:4 Jehovah is in his holy temple; Jehovah, his throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
So we must accept the fact that our Father took Enoch to heaven for “he was not” found on earth to be buried.
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I believe he is dead period
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Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, AND DEATH BY SIN; AND SO DEATH PASSED UPON ALL MEN, FOR THAT ALL HAVE SINNED (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. NEVERTHELESS DEATH REIGNED FROM ADAM TO MOSES, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. (Rom 5:12-14)
I guess Paul forgot. This is the problem. Folks assume without taking all scripture into consideration. And then when they get they don’t care
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The only difference between the account of Enoch and that of Elijah is that we are told the destination of Elijah:
2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, which parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
In both accounts we do know that neither of them experienced death:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
So the only thing we can assume is that both Elijah and Enoch were well pleasing to God and therefore both are presently in heaven.
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AND LASTLY KNOWING THAT ENOCH LIVED IN THIS BODY OF DEATH TOO
NOTICE WHAT JESUS DID FOR EVERY MAN
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should TASTE DEATH FOR EVERY MAN .
Hebrews 2:9
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@rob
I am just saying
Are these scriptures lying? Come on man. Your reading them
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@rob it never says he took him to heaven. Nowhere does it say that. And you know it.
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EVEN THE LORD HIMSELF SAID
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: THE SOUL THAT SINNETH, IT SHALL DIE. (Ezekiel 18:4)
So are we to say Enoch never sinned?
The Apostle Paul knew of no man that dieth not, and said that Death reigned from Adam to Moses, and not to Enoch
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Good morning Jeff! Yes it read all your previous replies this morning as I hit the hay around midnight last night!
It’s just not worth arguing over something our Father didn’t fully declare such as where He took Enoch. As this scripture clearly says “Enoch was translated that he should not see death”:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God translated him: for he hath had witness borne to him that before his translation he had been well-pleasing unto God:
There is a physical death the body experiences and a spiritual death that the soul experiences:
Matthew 10:28 And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
I would have to assume that Enoch being “well-pleasing unto God” would not have had to fear both his soul and body being destroyed in hell!
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@Rob That is a nonsense assumption, the usual fakestream Christian trick of reading their religious emotive BS into The Set Apart Scriptures. Now learn The Truth: 1) NO MAN preceded Yashua Messiah into heaven as a resurrected being. 2) NO MAN is going to heaven anyway!
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@ the Untruth
Unless you repent you are definitely not going to heaven with your serpent seed doctrine and hatred of the Jews. Now please stop sending your SPAM all over Hugo’s site Charles. BUSTED. YOU GOT CAUGHT. And then you tell Hugo that WORDPRESS takes all the money from your website. I knew you it. Making money off your fake fraudulent website.
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@rob
It does not say God took him to heaven. You cannot assume because you want to. It’s does work that way.
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King James Version
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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YOU certainly never will (find the Truth). Try for once, looking up what someone is trying to show you. Your ego had to attach itself to a teat that agrees with you. So pathetic.
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The difference between us is you guys believe the lie that you’re better than Jesus and I can see the Truth that the rapture has a SPECIFIC and PERFECT purpose and has to do with when Death is cast into the fire, NOT because God wants an apostate last days “church” polluting heaven.
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I never said there were 2 kingdoms “of the righteous”. DID YOU? It SAYS the KINGDOM (when Jesus will rule the nations) has BOTH TARES AND WHEAT in it that will either be cast into the furnace or GATHERED at the END of the WORLD (REV 20:11). You need to learn how to COMPREHEND what a person writes AND what the Scriptures are saying.
It’s SO OBVIOUS that you don’t look up a thing I show you so GET LOST.
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Who is the ONE body. Is that the fallen away vomit out of the mouth Christians, too. Or just the ones who think they’re better than Jesus?
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You’re not being very helpful. Too bad I understand how it ALL fits with NO contradictions but surely I’m wrong since you’ve shown how so much of prophecy disagrees and is lies.
*. So really all you know is that you’re better than Jesus and are going to help GOD rule the world, right? You must be SO excited.
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Why does Psalm 23 says “Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine ENEMIES…? Are your enemies in heaven?
*. And why does the parable of the wedding supper in Matt 22 say there will be “both bad and good” there initially? Isn’t God able to rapture ONLY Christians?
What a poser. I’m SO confused. 🙄
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And, of course, that means that Zech 8:3-5 that says there are flesh and blood people in Christ’s millennial kingdom is a lie, too.
Man, you’ve really got me making progress here.
Oh, and God needs a Seal AND a Trumpet that can’t possibly happen at the same time as the same event.
👍. This is SO cool!
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Also notice when 1 Cor 15:36 says that ALL flesh has to die to be resurrected it also says that anyone who believes otherwise IS A FOOL.
Just sayin’.
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Wow you clearly do not understand what Jesus said about if one does not lose his life will not gain eternal life:
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Just quoting Scripture.
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The thrones in Rev 20:4 are the judgment of the nations, Matt 25:31, to determine what FLESH AND BLOOD people get to stay in His millennial kingdom with Him.
THEREFORE it’s NOT the kingdom that flesh and blood cannot inherit. And prophecy HAS NO CONTRADICTIONS.
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You better do some more study on this passage as it is very clear that all the souls on the earth who were not saints where deceived by satan into compassing the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them:
Revelation 20:7-9 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, (8) and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (9) And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them.
So much for your ridiculous claim that the FLESH AND BLOOD people that get to stay in His millennial kingdom are the sheep chosen here:
Matthew 25:31-33 But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: (32) and before him shall be gathered all the nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats; (33) and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
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You are so lost. Just continue to add what you like and subtract what you don’t like…..as you just now did. I’ve clearly given you the verses that show you the Truth. I’m done. Just keep believing you’re better than Jesus and we’ll see how that goes.
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ALL prophecy agrees and Rev 20:4-14 is the correct order. If what you read doesn’t agree with that order then you’re reading the other Scriptures WRONG.
*. Jesus returns at the 6th Seal.
*. The angels RECEIVE their Trumpets at the 7th Seal, Rev 8:1-2.
*. And the 7th Trumpet is when GOD comes 1,000 years later. VERSE 17 “For He hast taken (PAST TENSE) His power and (ALREADY) reigned (Christ’s millennial kingdom). VERSE 18 (the timing of the event)….”when the dead shall be judged”. AT THE END OF THE MILLENNIUM.
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Thank you for continuing to prove why the unleavened truth is concealed:
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The Truth is concealed from the many, not the few, my friend. Good luck with that “better than Jesus/”Ye shall not surely die” thing you’ve got going on.
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No proof that Jesus returns at the 6th Seal?? It’s practically WORD FOR WORD what Matt 24:29-30 says. And, you know, the line that says, “HIDE US FROM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB!”. Good grief. Your blindness is beyond comprehension. Please stop replying to me.
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Try actually reading this verse as it clearly says “immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken”:
Matthew 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Now please notice the next verse starts off with “and then” meaning AFTER the sun is darkened, the moon stops giving her light, the stars fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens are shaken “then” shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
Matthew 24:30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Those events listed in verse 29 are caused by the 6 trumpets which will clearly cause the sun to be darkened, the moon to stop giving her light, the stars to fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens to be shaken!
Please try to save face and learn some real unleavened truth on the subject!:
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Lord, you are so lost. The 6th Seal is the return of Christ after the 5th Seal trib when the final martyrs are killed. And the angels DON’T RECEIVE THEIR TRUMPETS until the 7TH SEAL.
Damn dude, learn how to add. FIVE, SIX, THEN SEVEN.
The first 4 angels (who will be receiving Trumpets) in Rev 7 AFTER Jesus returns are even BEING TOLD not to harm the earth until the 144,000 are sealed….AND THEN they receive their Trumpets. GET IT?
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Being sealed does not imply they are being raptured at that moment silly!
The sounding of the seventh and “last” trumpet finishes the mystery of the rapture/resurrection that Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians chapter 15:
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Revelation 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then is finished the mystery of God, according to the good tidings which he declared to his servants the prophets.
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WHEN did I say the 144,000 are raptured?? I DIDN’T.
* Yes, the rapture is at the 7th Trumpet, the last trump, the Trumpet OF GOD on the last day of SEVEN thousand years AFTER Death is cast into the fire.
*. 1 Cor 15:50….(the rapture) is for QUOTE “the kingdom OF GOD”, NOT at Christ’s return. Jesus returned back in verse 23 when the MARTYRS are gathered out of heaven, Matt 24:31.
*. Rev 10:7 same thing….the mystery of God will be complete when the SEVEN thousand years are finished.
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The “one taken, the other left” is also what the parable of the wedding supper in Matt 22 is talking about. The angels in the wilderness being told to gather up the “stragglers”.
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BTW I got your email. I will explain a little more about what we were talking about. No worries just a a friendly discussion
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👍. I can even give you my phone number in an email if texting is easier. More immediate responses, yeah? A lot of people call. As far away as Nigeria so far.
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Are you in America.
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Yes, America. An old woman in Idaho.
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I am 58 in Texas. Retired from post office. Married. How old are you Leslie. Its good to have true Christian friends
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Oh wow, Texas. My most recent Christian friend is in Texas, married, and they just had their 7th child.
I turn 66 in a week. Single. Live alone.
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7 kids wow. I have four all grown
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I only have one child, a son, Marshall, age 36.
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My mother, age almost 90, is a retired postal carrier. Rural routes in WA state.
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She had a good job. Rural carrier
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The book of Enoch claims there were 4500 foot giants born from human women
Enoch chapter 7:2
And they [Human women] became pregnant, and they bare great giants ,whose height was three thousand ells..
The ancient ell was originally the same as a cubit, which is a measurement from elbow to fingertips approx 18 inch. Today an ell is about 3.5 ft
King Og was the biggest giant recorded in the Bible. His bed 13.5 feet long. So he is estimated to be 9 to 11 ft tall. In no way have the scriptures supported a 4500 ft giant. And I am sorry if you believe that lie. Have you ever heard of a guy by the last name Breaker?
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Well, I’m not going to throw out an entire book because of a possible mistranslation of a number….mainly considering an apostle quoted the book. And no, I haven’t heard Breaker. Beaker? No, I haven’t.
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No, certainly not! Study the Reformation in Europe! Freedom of Conscience is something that came Directly from the fight for an accurate Bible, John Wycliff, Jon Huss and many others. It’s true that this world is corrupt and full of false doctrine, but a good man must search out the truth in any form. Don’t accept what anyone tells you, do your own research!
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@thirdeye47
The different interpretations are doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1)), put out there to confuse and divide the world. The devil does not want people to be saved. God said, ‘And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart’ (Jeremiah 29:13).
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@thirdeye47, Knowing The Truth is the ONLY way you can be free and The Truth is Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ):
John 8:32 (MCV) And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you free.
John 8:36 (MCV) If The Son (Yashua Messiah) therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
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@thirdeye
You cannot find truth through yahoo. Thats a drink. Oh wait. Its a website. Oh wait its Charles false god.
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@thirdeye47 The only way you can be free is through Belief/Faith in Yashua Messiah (Jesus Christ) for He is The Truth.
John 8:32 (KJV) And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you free.
John 8:36 (KJV) If The Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
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Funny thing is, you have no understanding, except of a 3rd eye…. You 3rd eye needs plucking out and throwing into the fire, as one day if you don’t change, your whole body and soul will be cut off and thrown into the fire…
Jesus Christ Died for you and everyone on earth… Make the break and wake up, you are not aware of Truth only deception….
Only Jesus Christ Saves.. John 3 16
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Lmbo. I had to laugh sorry
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Hi Hugo,
I made a comment on your Jordan Peterson video, but i didn’t saw it in the comment section.
Is this comment machinery waiting for your moderation?
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Is great to see you (Hugo) working out what is plain to see for some of us, I’ve commented before and you’ve not seen my comments or replied, but the bible is the only source of truth, it’s is gods word, the devil was thrown out of heaven in 1914 hence woe to the earth he has a short time, I can explain more you need the message me I can send you links to information that you are working out by yourself which others have worked out 100 odd years ago! Even the Xmas story has been twisted the star of wonder !! Is evil, as god has always forbid divination and astrology so why would he send a star to find Jesus !!! From men who follows the stars !! Hello !!! To then visit Herod on the way … for Herod to kill all the males under the age of 2 after .::. People need to wake up the last days are here…
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No, Satan has not been kicked out yet. The woman of Rev 12:14 has to go to the wilderness first and when he’s kicked out he tries to wipe her out with a flood of water.
It’s all one story. WHEN the devil gets kicked out he knows that he only has 42 months/3.5 years left. And when his attempt to wipe out the woman fails then “HE goes to the sand of the sea” to release the beast out of hell. You have to look at the Greek of Rev 12:17 to see that the end of Chapter 12 and the beginning of Chapter 13 are connected in time.
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I don’t see anyone say he was kicked out of heaven in 1914. Who said it?
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Someone named Ashley said it.
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Rev 12:14 happened on September 23rd 2017.
YouTube has or had plenty of videos about this.
Plus 3,5 years makes March 23rd 2021. This is when Tribulation started.
And satan will reveal itself September 2024, the start of Great Tribulation.
In that case Jesus will return March 2028.
I believe satan entered in Obama, who is whispering in Bidens earpiece right now.
Barack means lightening
Obama means from the sky.
● His birthday August 4th = the 216th day of the year.
6x6x6 = 216
● He was senator of lllinois, area code 60606
● He’s a descendant of Britisch King John.
https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/12-year-girl-discovers-president-related
● He’s a descendant of Muhammad
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2008/11/muslims-respond-to-president-obama
● Natasha & Amalia spelled backwards =
A i l am a’ah satan =
i am satan
A l a’ah
● The illuminaticard ‘Backlash’ shows he’ll return in power (the symbolic head wound)
● His slogan
“Yes we can”
when listened to in reverse sounds like “Thank you satan”
We’ll find out soon enough which monster is the AC.
It looks like Kazakstan, Astana will be his “new Jerusalem”.
The word satan is twice in the name and the city is full of satanic symbolism.
If I’m mistaken, my apologies.
But it makes sense to me.
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Get a life. Please
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Oh, honey you’re so far off. Can you tell me what event you’re connecting to as being the woman in the wilderness that Satan tried to wipe out? Because immediately after he does that he goes to the sand of the sea to release the beast OUT OF HELL
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Satan was thrown out of heaven in 1914?????
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Did I misread something!
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Did you meet him? 🤣🤣🤣
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Jeff, that wasn’t nice.
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😆 I am sorry
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Who said Satan was thrown put of heaven in 1914? Was that you? I didn’t see who it was. I just made the comment.
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No, it wasn’t me. It was Ashley but I also left her a comment so I saw yours.
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Oh Ashley said it. Ok
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Thanks Hugo, spot-on as always. Impressed with the extent of your bible knowledge in such a short time, bro. Catholicism is a Satanic counterfeit in order to discredit true biblical Christianity. The biggest difference between Catholicism and true biblical Christianity is that Catholicism is about earning one’s salvation by the keeping of rules and regulations. Whereas the Bible clearly states that we cannot earn our salvation, for it is the gift of God: “ for by Grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast“. (Ephesians 2:8–9).
Jesus said “by their fruits ye shall know them“ (Matthew 7:20.) So it is clear who the Pope is serving, it certainly is not the Lord Jesus.
Hugo, you do well to stick to the Bible and to pray for wisdom and understanding and discernment from God, as even here, reading some of the comments of those claiming to know the Bible show a great deal of confusion and inaccuracy. Sadly Satan has been busy in the church as well as in the world.
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The Catholic church was infiltrated by the Jews many years ago. Ignatius Loyola was a Jew and he formed The Royal Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) for this purpose.
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for by Grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast“. (Ephesians 2:8–9). Yes and Amen…
John 3 16
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I’m a Christian, a servant of Jesus Christ. He saved me May 5th 2007. My sister is a member of the church of satan, let’s be honest here, and call it what it is hey! She and I have had many, kinda heated debates about her “faith” and mine. I asked her why she felt she needed to go into a confessional box to repent to a man, when I can go directly into repentant prayer to Christ Himself, she couldn’t give me an answer. She finds it extremely hard to forgive family members, and has a bitter heart. Yet she is in awe of my unwavering faith, I said to her, you can have the relationship I have with Christ too, you need only to leave the catholic church, and is false doctrine. I pray for her regularly, for the Spirit of God to move in her heart, to transform her and change her life. I pray the same for all my family, the lost to
Admit they are sinners
Believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, that He died on the cross for their sins, and was raised again on the 3rd day by our Heavenly Father, and now sits at the Right Hand of God, and
Confess Jesus into their hearts and lives, securing their eternal lives in Abba Father’s Kingdon, to praise, honor, worship and glorify Him for life eeverlasting.
Jesus is the True Light of the world, He is the Messiah, my King
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Just say she is Catholic ding bat. There is an actual Church of Satan.
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JEFF. JEFF!! Are you getting tired or did your wife just tell you to wash the dishes?
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He could have just said she was Catholic instead of saying The Church of Satan. Because I thought he was really talking about the real church of Satan. He made it seem that way. Although I know the Catholic Church is Satanic
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I agree. It threw me for a second, too.
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“She finds it extremely hard to forgive family members, and has a bitter heart. Yet she is in awe of my unwavering faith…”
Your sister sounds like a nice person who sees the good in you.
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blasphemy, you have no idea, what your saying, bye yourself a king James Bible, read it and repent to Jesus Christ, as only by Jesus Christ Grace we are saved…
John 3 16
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Keep praying and keep being an example for Christ.
Keep the Faith Bro.
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Great video brother Hugo.
FYI This series will really help everyone to put the pieces together concerning the Roman Catholic church and prophecy.
God bless
https://unmaskingthemark.com
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To understand what really happened to the Catholic Church after Vatican II, there is only one address : vaticancatholic.com. This is the site of Most Holy Family Monastery, a traditional Benedictine Monastery. They provide crucial information to understand the current Great Apostasy and the steps to Salvation.
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Only JESUS CHRIST SAVES.. John 3 16….
Everything else is a abomination and blasphemy
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@Susan, Give up and repent! you’re defending the indefensible and fighting a losers battle – I keep telling you deluded people that ALL YOU HAVE is your stupid claim that Peter was a pope, and I have proven unequivocally that Peter was NEVER a pope, nor a Bishop of Rome and without this silly idea your ‘church’ becomes a fake and a house of cards!
Was Peter The First Pope? – The Truth of Matthew 16 Revealed:
https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/was-peter-the-first-pope-the-truth-of-matthew-16-revealed/
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I like some of MHFM’s writing, however, I prefer the non-sede traditioninaction.org . I don’t think we truly know enough to declare Peter’s seat vacant (or just recently vacant. The heresies of usury have been “in the church” since Leo X). Judas was one of the 12. Peter thrice betrayed Jesus… What we can agree on is the apostasy of Vatican II
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Totally completely fully FULLY agree with you Hugo! 100%. You are one massive gift to this world. Thank you for sharing the truth. Keep going!
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Yes Hugo was spot on although like others I wondered about his references to the Rosary and Crucifixes in the past. I was brought up in the Catholic Church and was in bondage to it for many years. I feel sorry for the priests who have to renounce the possibility of marriage and are tempted in ways which shouldn’t be put in their way. Unfortunately once a Catholic it is hard to break free. Get rid of the priests, the saints, the confessional, the mass, the mariology etc and just read the Bible. Then you begin to know the truth which will set you free.
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The whole of the church has been deceived, even the Pentecostal church was promoting this experimental drug. Highly followed messianic Jews even promoted it . However we just need discernment and to follow the Word of God daily in these last times believe in the gospel,that Jesus was born sinless became a man, he died for your sin on the cross He paid the penalty of sin which is death for you, and rose again on the third day He’s alive , believe in Him with your whole heart and mind , be born again as Hugo quoted then let Him teach you through His Word and be saved.
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@June White, My blog for your information: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/about/
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@theuntruth
He ain’t talking to you. He is thanking God for June White and Hugo. Not you. Lmbo.
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Amen and Amen… I thank you & thank Almighty God for you and Hugo
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Hi Hugo,
Please watch some of Alberto Rivera’s interviews on YouTube. He was an ex Jesuit and seems legit! He got poisoned due to coming out of being a Jesuit. The RCC isn’t just another part of the system, I do believe they, or rather the Black Pope is the head of Freemasonry and the Zionist movement.
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Exactly
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Seems legit?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Spot on as per usual Hugo 👏🕊️💚🙌🙏
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Hi Hugo Ive been introduced to the baptist church UK in Whetstone Leicestershire. Massive congregation, there not affiliated with CofE nor WCC have you any thoughts? they are run locally and members vote on issues they offer total immersion baptism and it all seems good to us.
And quite positive emotionally.
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ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME .
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Oh my goodness. I’m afraid Hugo that, like many others, you show your total ignorance of all things Catholic. For instance, do you know about the Second Vatican Council where everything was changed and a ‘window was thrown open’ to let fresh air in? If anyone, and this includes well intentioned Catholics, believes that this Bergolio chap is a pope – or even a Christian for that matter, then they have lost their faith! He is part of the takeover of the Catholic Church that the Freemasons promised over 100 yrs ago and we now see that they have their man on the seat of Peter! This man is an imposter- he certainly isn’t a Pope or anything like it. Baptism is performed to protect the child from the devil as sin is our basic nature. I would have to write reams and reams of explanation which is impossible, and I doubt very much that I would achieve much if anything! Best you don’t talk about things you know nothing about. I doubt you have spoken to a ‘traditional’ Catholic priest or had and serious conversation with one. The fact remains that the Catholic Church was set up by Jesus himself making Peter the first Pope. ‘ upon this rock I will build my church’ and the lineage can be followed throughout history of the last 2000 yrs but the last few popes have not been Catholic and have led the flock astray. Look up Sede Vacantism- that is “The seat of Peter is Vacant” The Catholic Church- the true Catholic Church is alive and well but we are once again in the Catacombs- the smoke of Satan has entered the Vatican!!
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You speak Blasphemy, you have no understanding of the Truth of Jesus Christ Yesuha… You speak of Catholics as if you believe in the bleeding marys or such….
You really need to wake up, your falling for a massive lie, and one day you will have to give account to Almighty God for why you are deceived…& your life..
Your are blinded… The amount of pedophiles that attend a Catholic church & the amount of blood sacrifices that take place is a Abomination to Almighty God…
You should realise that the truth is in Jesus Christ alone…
We are saved only by Grace in Jesus Christ alone….
All your so called saints are Dead… Mary is Dead…
Jesus Christ is Alive & well and soon, he will return for His Remnant… Please wake up before its to late, as once it takes place, everything will distroyed….
Only Jesus Christ Saves 🙏🏻 John 3 16 🙏🏻
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As an ex Catholic I thank the Lord for the truth spoken by Hugo.The Catholic church was set up by Constantine.The early church had no religious structure.When Jesus said on this rock I will build my church He was referring to Himself.The name Peter means small stone or pebble.
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@Chris, TRUTH! Good comment.
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@untruth
What does a serpent seed jew hater know about know about good comments 🙄 Man I think you and Flavius should hang out.
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Yep! Because the whole world is going straight to hell in a hand basket.
Sorry, but you set yourself up for that one.
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@Leslie Kendall, Where did you learn that load of garbage? Perhaps I shouldn’t have asked!
Hell: https://isthefathercallingyoutohisson.wordpress.com/2020/11/14/hell/
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If Charles doesn’t repent he is
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Testing
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Thanks Hugo keep em coming
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You are spamming links to your site, I’ve counted 20 or so in the last 24 hours, now i don’t mind people posting the odd link here and there, but that is taking the piss, comment, make your point, but don’t post 20 links to your site, which I notice is monetized with adverts unlike this one.
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@hugotalking, This post is of a religious nature, hence all the links to my site, and I make NO MONEY from my site. WordPress take ALL the revenue from my site, as I don’t pay for it.
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@hugotalking, Why is this conversation not being made public?
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