If you google the guy with the camera, Gregor (egregore) Miesbach, you find he has no internet presence, except for the alleged shooting. No internet history, a guy of that age, tech-savvy? Unlikely imo.
My guess for <<>> motivation: in order to get the public familiar with crazy aggressive lethal Christians, first start low-key: Christians attacking each other. In a few months start step two, And further.
Aren’t there Netflix movies by now, showcasing predictive programming on evil Christians?
it did happen people died and it was an ex brother that did it but he had a mental illness i am a jw so im telling you the truth. you can go onto jworg latest news and see it there
Another news report read that he’d fired 10 rounds in the car park and a woman narrowly escaped with light injuries so perhaps he’d heard the shots and begun filming.
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I’ve noticed they put out conflicting reports on other suspicious events in past, it adds to confusion, therefor harder for general viewer to get a clearer picture of what happened or what is going on. One example would be the Astroworld Festival Deaths, where at the beginning police reported that someone was going around injecting people in the crowd, only to dismiss it later – https://www.wsj.com/articles/travis-scott-concert-latest-police-dismiss-report-of-drugged-security-guard-11636586595
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Well done Richard.
I commented also, not about our Brothers but people are so nasty but about Gods name, Jesus and that we do not preach or believe in Jesus being God, take a look.👍
We pray to Jehovah our God
Acts 24:15.
Tolly
Don’t worry dear sisters and brothers, we’re not the only ones that acknowledge the truth about the trinity.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also reports: “The Apologists [Greek Christian writers of the second century] spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally.”—Vol. XIV, p. 296.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.
According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
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…and “So” ye shall also “Perish”
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Thanks, very friendly, you show YOUR TRUE ideals.
Jehovah is jealous, an exacting God he will not stand any rivalry to his glory and rulership, there no other god can stand against him.
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Sheesh, I swear to God, whoever he/she/it is depending on the Holy one’s preferred pronouns. If you have been brought up to believe in one version of God, does that make it a better version than another persons? Each and every Bible has been bastardised to death. The originals were written in Greek. Which had in their vocabulary 1.5 million words. We have 150,000 words in our Saxon French German hybrid “English” language. MEANING the true and EXACT concepts have been dumbed down and neutered in so many ways. Blessed are the meek and the poor. Well Greek had something like 15 versions of blessed and each one meant something subtly different. If every Twat and his dog is going to spend their entire life arguing over who is the most correct can’t you at least all agree you don’t really know. Has anyone of you spoke to God? Eh? Unless you’ve had a massive amount of Acid or DMT I severely doubt it as I can’t imagine any of you being able to Fast for 40 days in a desert either. I’d imagine all of you are going off 3rd hand information. So if you are a JW, or a Catholic OR a Protestant, if you Live your life with compassion, love and understanding for your fellow man then you are closer to God than the next bickering turnip. Like little CHILDREN who take their clothes off and trample them under their feet in order to give the field back to the owners. Ask a child of 7 days where is the kingdom and you shall live. The kingdom is within you and without, split a log and it is there. Jesus, man or God, showed the way. To those with the eyes to see and ears to hear. The way is narrow. It massively doesn’t involve (in my opinion) falling out over how you approach the subject. Same as I don’t need a child molester in a frock stood in a church telling me how to be a good person I don’t care if God is Jesus or a Holy Spirit or a anything. What is important is that we are all Children of the same Creator and if we do not love our siblings as much as we love ourselves we are hollow. You think a Hindu is going to burn in Hell??? Really??? You think a Hebrew (Baal worshippers aside) is going to Hell? Hell is a creation of man to scare tards back in the day. It was a valley on the outskirts of Jerusalem where they ditched rubbish and effluent. The words were changed. Equally the whole concept of heaven is wrong. Heaven is here and now and you can live in it if you want. When you die you return to sender and if you haven’t achieved unity you will get fired back to resit your “exams” and so the eternal wheel continues to cycle. All faiths have a nugget of truth and a nugget of utter lies to allow the “test” to be a real thing. The most devout Christians have done the most disgusting things. The biggest pagans have done beautiful things. You think it matters who or what Jesus is/was??? Noooooooo he merely points to a mountain. It is for the individual to find the path to God and it can be different for all of us depending on what your soul needs to evolve. We are stood at the beginning of a new epoch. We can all feel it. Let the veil drop and let the true love and joy of this wonderful beautiful world seep into your life. We are overcome with the need to be “right” and in the process we are face planting. The Luciferians win everytime we argue about petty things. Sit quietly in your own temple and God will reveal himself in his own time. Words are wind. Pray without language and you will truly communicate with God. You think a child born deaf and dumb is going to die without knowing God because they can’t read a Bible ??🥹😮💨😂😂 The smallest spark of life returns to One ☝️
Not one living person knows the whole deal because if you did you would cease to require a body and you’d shuffle off the world. Be glad you are learning 👍
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…from the Book called ‘Pistis Sophia’…¶…Mary answered again and said: “My Lord, I will still continue to question thee. Now, therefore, my Lord, bear with me questioning thee. Lo, in openness have we known the type in which the baptisms forgive sins. Now on the other hand the mystery of these three spaces and the mysteries of this First Mystery and the mysteries of the Ineffable, in what type do they forgive sins? Do they forgive in the type |303. of the baptisms, or not?”…
(Of the forgiveness of sins according to the higher mysteries)….The Saviour answered again and said: “Nay, but all the mysteries of the three spaces forgive the soul in all the regions of the rulers all the sine which the soul hath committed from the beginning onwards. They forgive it, and moreover they forgive the sins which it thereafter will commit, until the time up to which every one of the mysteries shall be effective,–the time up to which every one of the mysteries shall be effective I will tell you at the expansion of the universe.
“And moreover the mystery of the First Mystery and the mysteries of the Ineffable forgive the soul in all the regions of the rulers all the sins and all the iniquities which the soul hath committed; and [not only] do they forgive it all, but they impute unto it no sin from this hour unto all eternity, because of the gift of that great mystery and its prodigiously great glory.”…
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…¶…There are four things in which neither the king nor his army can be secure: oppression by the vizier, and bad government, and perversion of the will, and tyranny over the subject; and four things which cannot be hidden: the prudent, and the foolish, and the rich, and the poor.’
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Hugo, simply ask the obvious, isn’t it? What i find strange as well, is that when a group of 4 policemen, filmed from behind, walk in the street towards a policecar, how can a cameraman/woman get so close, because it is all forbidden terrain. And the video from the beginning is odd. On the German television the emphasis lay on the fact that these policemen were so quick responding that more casualties had been avoided. It reminds me of the killing of politician Pim Fortuyn: there were too much incidental irregularities. Anyway, thanks for showing. Jan
First of all JW are not Christian’s. People died but this video is very strange it’s the helmets. You would have them on as you enter the building but they didn’t have any. Once inside they suddenly have them on. That means the helmets were already in the building,
Very astute Hugo.
There is obviously media manipulation of some sort. It will be subtile to see at first but there will come a point when they wont make these obvious blunders and we will need the wisdom of God more then ever to discern the evil anti-christ spirit lurking in the dark.
The JW aspect is a matter of deception in itself.
JW are not Christians. I had a conversation with one who knocked my door (he could see I was busy as workmen had just left, and he even commented on the fact that I had my hands full with cleaning up! This is when JW come, when they know a person is busy or vulnerable so be very careful). They believe Jesus will reign as king on the earth but when asked if he believed Jesus is God he said no. When I said I believe Jesus is God he turned very aggressive towards me. He told me to read my Bible properly. He was quite rude, telling me I was blind to the truth and that he felt like hitting me on the head!! He said he would bring his wife next time, so I politely asked him not to come back as I wouldn’t change my mind. Jesus is God, and rejecting Jesus as God is what sends a person to hell. Believing in God simply is not enough. Faith alone in Jesus as God, the second member of the Trinity is what gives a person eternal life. They believe Jesus is a created being, when Jesus was there at the beginning. They are waiting for “jesus” to come and reign on the earth, which will be the antichrist. It is another “Christian” cult, just like Roman Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons etc. They all believe in a works based gospel and they all reject Jesus as God. When a person rejects Jesus as God they are given over to a darkened mind, making them vulnerable to deception. These cults will all accept the mark of the beast as they are all being conditioned to accept the antichrist. May I add, they all read different Bible translations which have words added and taken away. When challenged about this, the JW on my doorstep couldn’t answer. The Bible clearly states that anyone who adds or takes away from it will be accursed. I am praying for all cults and religions to have their eyes opened so they will accept Jesus as God and be saved, as Jesus died for them also.
Well I believe they see themselves as christians, as does the majority of the world, its a denomination thats based around the bible, so anything based around the bible that isn’t the Roman Catholic Church is what I believe they will focus negative attention on for starters.
We are christians iam one off JW we believe and study the Bible. If you want to know why we don’t call Jezus God its all in the name from Hebrew it’s Jehosua what means Jehovah (Jah) (Yahwe) YHWH means saving. ( sorry for my English I’m Dutch) Jezus came to earth also to teach pepole that: look up John 17:26 for example to who is Jezus talking and what’s the Name he is talking about.. that’s so important to know cause it means life : proverbs 18:10 psalm 91:14
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The scene without helmets, was probably the dress rehearsal, but forgot to put them on . 🙄
Seems staged that the suspect was photographed climbing the wall in the dark and the police not wearing helmets when going in, although you can get bullet proof beanie-type hats which they may have carried in, and it looked like one may be wearing this type. Tragedy that 7 people killed.
I believe those in control, call it the Establishment or the Beast System are incapable of demonstrating virtue, which naturally includes honesty, which requires being truthful. They must deceive, so it’s no coincidence that everything which they are associated is steeped in lies. Truth is only used to season their deception.
You may be Right, Sir…¶…Judas said, “Tell me, Lord, what the beginning of the path is.”
He said, “Love and goodness. For if one of these existed among the governors, wickedness would never have come into existence.” …
The number 7 is GOD’s number that represents completeness.
A psy-op.
If you google the guy with the camera, Gregor (egregore) Miesbach, you find he has no internet presence, except for the alleged shooting. No internet history, a guy of that age, tech-savvy? Unlikely imo.
My guess for <<>> motivation: in order to get the public familiar with crazy aggressive lethal Christians, first start low-key: Christians attacking each other. In a few months start step two, And further.
Aren’t there Netflix movies by now, showcasing predictive programming on evil Christians?
Good video again Hugo
MIESBACH = 33
where is Richard Gutjahr? Miesbach = 33
it did happen people died and it was an ex brother that did it but he had a mental illness i am a jw so im telling you the truth. you can go onto jworg latest news and see it there
I believe it happened. But bits of it are odd ie the guy filming it
Another news report read that he’d fired 10 rounds in the car park and a woman narrowly escaped with light injuries so perhaps he’d heard the shots and begun filming.
I’ve noticed they put out conflicting reports on other suspicious events in past, it adds to confusion, therefor harder for general viewer to get a clearer picture of what happened or what is going on. One example would be the Astroworld Festival Deaths, where at the beginning police reported that someone was going around injecting people in the crowd, only to dismiss it later – https://www.wsj.com/articles/travis-scott-concert-latest-police-dismiss-report-of-drugged-security-guard-11636586595
That’s possible.
Well done Richard.
I commented also, not about our Brothers but people are so nasty but about Gods name, Jesus and that we do not preach or believe in Jesus being God, take a look.👍
We pray to Jehovah our God
Acts 24:15.
Tolly
Don’t worry dear sisters and brothers, we’re not the only ones that acknowledge the truth about the trinity.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575) It also reports: “The Apologists [Greek Christian writers of the second century] spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally.”—Vol. XIV, p. 296.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.
According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
Absolutely correct..
…and “So” ye shall also “Perish”
Thanks, very friendly, you show YOUR TRUE ideals.
Jehovah is jealous, an exacting God he will not stand any rivalry to his glory and rulership, there no other god can stand against him.
Sheesh, I swear to God, whoever he/she/it is depending on the Holy one’s preferred pronouns. If you have been brought up to believe in one version of God, does that make it a better version than another persons? Each and every Bible has been bastardised to death. The originals were written in Greek. Which had in their vocabulary 1.5 million words. We have 150,000 words in our Saxon French German hybrid “English” language. MEANING the true and EXACT concepts have been dumbed down and neutered in so many ways. Blessed are the meek and the poor. Well Greek had something like 15 versions of blessed and each one meant something subtly different. If every Twat and his dog is going to spend their entire life arguing over who is the most correct can’t you at least all agree you don’t really know. Has anyone of you spoke to God? Eh? Unless you’ve had a massive amount of Acid or DMT I severely doubt it as I can’t imagine any of you being able to Fast for 40 days in a desert either. I’d imagine all of you are going off 3rd hand information. So if you are a JW, or a Catholic OR a Protestant, if you Live your life with compassion, love and understanding for your fellow man then you are closer to God than the next bickering turnip. Like little CHILDREN who take their clothes off and trample them under their feet in order to give the field back to the owners. Ask a child of 7 days where is the kingdom and you shall live. The kingdom is within you and without, split a log and it is there. Jesus, man or God, showed the way. To those with the eyes to see and ears to hear. The way is narrow. It massively doesn’t involve (in my opinion) falling out over how you approach the subject. Same as I don’t need a child molester in a frock stood in a church telling me how to be a good person I don’t care if God is Jesus or a Holy Spirit or a anything. What is important is that we are all Children of the same Creator and if we do not love our siblings as much as we love ourselves we are hollow. You think a Hindu is going to burn in Hell??? Really??? You think a Hebrew (Baal worshippers aside) is going to Hell? Hell is a creation of man to scare tards back in the day. It was a valley on the outskirts of Jerusalem where they ditched rubbish and effluent. The words were changed. Equally the whole concept of heaven is wrong. Heaven is here and now and you can live in it if you want. When you die you return to sender and if you haven’t achieved unity you will get fired back to resit your “exams” and so the eternal wheel continues to cycle. All faiths have a nugget of truth and a nugget of utter lies to allow the “test” to be a real thing. The most devout Christians have done the most disgusting things. The biggest pagans have done beautiful things. You think it matters who or what Jesus is/was??? Noooooooo he merely points to a mountain. It is for the individual to find the path to God and it can be different for all of us depending on what your soul needs to evolve. We are stood at the beginning of a new epoch. We can all feel it. Let the veil drop and let the true love and joy of this wonderful beautiful world seep into your life. We are overcome with the need to be “right” and in the process we are face planting. The Luciferians win everytime we argue about petty things. Sit quietly in your own temple and God will reveal himself in his own time. Words are wind. Pray without language and you will truly communicate with God. You think a child born deaf and dumb is going to die without knowing God because they can’t read a Bible ??🥹😮💨😂😂 The smallest spark of life returns to One ☝️
Not one living person knows the whole deal because if you did you would cease to require a body and you’d shuffle off the world. Be glad you are learning 👍
…from the Book called ‘Pistis Sophia’…¶…Mary answered again and said: “My Lord, I will still continue to question thee. Now, therefore, my Lord, bear with me questioning thee. Lo, in openness have we known the type in which the baptisms forgive sins. Now on the other hand the mystery of these three spaces and the mysteries of this First Mystery and the mysteries of the Ineffable, in what type do they forgive sins? Do they forgive in the type |303. of the baptisms, or not?”…
(Of the forgiveness of sins according to the higher mysteries)….The Saviour answered again and said: “Nay, but all the mysteries of the three spaces forgive the soul in all the regions of the rulers all the sine which the soul hath committed from the beginning onwards. They forgive it, and moreover they forgive the sins which it thereafter will commit, until the time up to which every one of the mysteries shall be effective,–the time up to which every one of the mysteries shall be effective I will tell you at the expansion of the universe.
“And moreover the mystery of the First Mystery and the mysteries of the Ineffable forgive the soul in all the regions of the rulers all the sins and all the iniquities which the soul hath committed; and [not only] do they forgive it all, but they impute unto it no sin from this hour unto all eternity, because of the gift of that great mystery and its prodigiously great glory.”…
…¶…There are four things in which neither the king nor his army can be secure: oppression by the vizier, and bad government, and perversion of the will, and tyranny over the subject; and four things which cannot be hidden: the prudent, and the foolish, and the rich, and the poor.’
Hugo, simply ask the obvious, isn’t it? What i find strange as well, is that when a group of 4 policemen, filmed from behind, walk in the street towards a policecar, how can a cameraman/woman get so close, because it is all forbidden terrain. And the video from the beginning is odd. On the German television the emphasis lay on the fact that these policemen were so quick responding that more casualties had been avoided. It reminds me of the killing of politician Pim Fortuyn: there were too much incidental irregularities. Anyway, thanks for showing. Jan
First of all JW are not Christian’s. People died but this video is very strange it’s the helmets. You would have them on as you enter the building but they didn’t have any. Once inside they suddenly have them on. That means the helmets were already in the building,
That’s what I’ve said several times in several comments here
The gun man is dead; ‘Dead men tell no tales’
Very astute Hugo.
There is obviously media manipulation of some sort. It will be subtile to see at first but there will come a point when they wont make these obvious blunders and we will need the wisdom of God more then ever to discern the evil anti-christ spirit lurking in the dark.
The JW aspect is a matter of deception in itself.
JW are not Christians. I had a conversation with one who knocked my door (he could see I was busy as workmen had just left, and he even commented on the fact that I had my hands full with cleaning up! This is when JW come, when they know a person is busy or vulnerable so be very careful). They believe Jesus will reign as king on the earth but when asked if he believed Jesus is God he said no. When I said I believe Jesus is God he turned very aggressive towards me. He told me to read my Bible properly. He was quite rude, telling me I was blind to the truth and that he felt like hitting me on the head!! He said he would bring his wife next time, so I politely asked him not to come back as I wouldn’t change my mind. Jesus is God, and rejecting Jesus as God is what sends a person to hell. Believing in God simply is not enough. Faith alone in Jesus as God, the second member of the Trinity is what gives a person eternal life. They believe Jesus is a created being, when Jesus was there at the beginning. They are waiting for “jesus” to come and reign on the earth, which will be the antichrist. It is another “Christian” cult, just like Roman Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons etc. They all believe in a works based gospel and they all reject Jesus as God. When a person rejects Jesus as God they are given over to a darkened mind, making them vulnerable to deception. These cults will all accept the mark of the beast as they are all being conditioned to accept the antichrist. May I add, they all read different Bible translations which have words added and taken away. When challenged about this, the JW on my doorstep couldn’t answer. The Bible clearly states that anyone who adds or takes away from it will be accursed. I am praying for all cults and religions to have their eyes opened so they will accept Jesus as God and be saved, as Jesus died for them also.
Seven day Adventists believe that Jesus has attributes the same as God the Father, that’s why Jesus can also be called God.
Hugo if you are a true follower of the way, you would know JW’s are not Christian.
Well I believe they see themselves as christians, as does the majority of the world, its a denomination thats based around the bible, so anything based around the bible that isn’t the Roman Catholic Church is what I believe they will focus negative attention on for starters.
We are christians iam one off JW we believe and study the Bible. If you want to know why we don’t call Jezus God its all in the name from Hebrew it’s Jehosua what means Jehovah (Jah) (Yahwe) YHWH means saving. ( sorry for my English I’m Dutch) Jezus came to earth also to teach pepole that: look up John 17:26 for example to who is Jezus talking and what’s the Name he is talking about.. that’s so important to know cause it means life : proverbs 18:10 psalm 91:14
The scene without helmets, was probably the dress rehearsal, but forgot to put them on . 🙄
Seems staged that the suspect was photographed climbing the wall in the dark and the police not wearing helmets when going in, although you can get bullet proof beanie-type hats which they may have carried in, and it looked like one may be wearing this type. Tragedy that 7 people killed.
I believe those in control, call it the Establishment or the Beast System are incapable of demonstrating virtue, which naturally includes honesty, which requires being truthful. They must deceive, so it’s no coincidence that everything which they are associated is steeped in lies. Truth is only used to season their deception.
You may be Right, Sir…¶…Judas said, “Tell me, Lord, what the beginning of the path is.”
He said, “Love and goodness. For if one of these existed among the governors, wickedness would never have come into existence.” …